"No Reasonable Expectation of Privacy On The Internet"

[Lancecastor]

People on sites like this might want to know about CIPAV....

In 2007, the US 9th Circuit Court of Appeals made a ruling on CIPAV, the FBI's online spyware virus.

Under a ruling this month by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, such surveillance -- which does not capture the content of the communications -- can be conducted without a wiretap warrant, because internet users have no "reasonable expectation of privacy" in the data when using the internet.

~wired.com

Do you have CIPAV on your computer?

The FBI's spyware is designed to avoid detection by spyware utilities, so you likely wouldn't know.

FBI Spyware in a Nutshell
The full capabilities of the FBI's "computer and internet protocol address verifier" are closely guarded secrets, but here's some of the data the malware collects from a computer immediately after infiltrating it, according to a bureau affidavit acquired by Wired News.
• IP address
• MAC address of ethernet cards
• A list of open TCP and UDP ports
• A list of running programs
• The operating system type, version and serial number
• The default internet browser and version
• The registered user of the operating system, and registered company name, if any
• The current logged-in user name
• The last visited URL
Once that data is gathered, the CIPAV begins secretly monitoring the computer's internet use, logging every IP address to which the machine connects.
All that information is sent over the internet to an FBI computer in Virginia, likely located at the FBI's technical laboratory in Quantico.

 

[phrodeau]

Not even the FBI gets any privacy here.

 

[sufisaint]

We have no reasonable expectation of privacy or freedom in this country period...

 

[Super-Surprise]

So tell us something useful, like how to detect if CIPAV is installed on your computer. And how to get rid of it.

 

[Liar]

The FBI's spyware is designed to avoid detection by spyware utilities, so you likely wouldn't know.

Every damn virus and spyware is "designed to avoid detection by spyware utilities". It's kind of the name of the game.

Only way it is not detected by spyware utilities is if the spyware utilities deliberately look the other way.

 

[Mike_Yates]

People on sites like this might want to know about CIPAV....

In 2007, the US 9th Circuit Court of Appeals made a ruling on CIPAV, the FBI's online spyware virus.


~wired.com

Do you have CIPAV on your computer?

The FBI's spyware is designed to avoid detection by spyware utilities, so you likely wouldn't know.

Probably Billions of computers (home and office) are infected with this virus.

 

[phrodeau]

So tell us something useful, like how to detect if CIPAV is installed on your computer. And how to get rid of it.

If you do that, they're sure to come after you.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Probably Billions of computers (home and office) are infected with this virus.

Now that is probably the most accurate thing you've ever said.

 

[Lancecastor]

Not even the FBI gets any privacy here.

I know where they work.

 

[Cade Is Here]

Every damn virus and spyware is "designed to avoid detection by spyware utilities". It's kind of the name of the game.

Only way it is not detected by spyware utilities is if the spyware utilities deliberately look the other way.

Goes back to crypting viruses. We have been crypting viruses for years... So anti virus's can't detect them. Usually through morphing and crypting it besides using reshacker we can make a ppi virus stay in the users computer for up to 6 month if it doesn't throw any flags.
So with the FBI type of software I bet it could get rooted into a computer and stay for months after months.

 

[warrior queen]

it's always been a given that there is no reasonable expectation of privacy on the net.
and it's also been widely known that certain agencies have the capability of monitoring the web.
anyone with a modicum of intelligence knows this.
so the issue is.....?

 

[semen4her]

THE FBI CAN SUCK MY

MONKEY BALLS!​

 

[Lancecastor]

THE FBI CAN SUCK MY

MONKEY BALLS!​

Yes, they probably can.

 

[semen4her]

Yes, they probably can.

And would.

 

[Lancecastor]

And would.

I've seen you on the Subway commercials, but not on any FBI Most Wanted posters....have you been slipping your Five Dollar Foot Long somewhere it shouldn't be going?

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Yes, they probably can.

They'd have to find them first.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

People on sites like this might want to know about CIPAV....

In 2007, the US 9th Circuit Court of Appeals made a ruling on CIPAV, the FBI's online spyware virus.

Under a ruling this month by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, such surveillance -- which does not capture the content of the communications -- can be conducted without a wiretap warrant, because internet users have no "reasonable expectation of privacy" in the data when using the internet.

~wired.com

Do you have CIPAV on your computer?

The FBI's spyware is designed to avoid detection by spyware utilities, so you likely wouldn't know.

If it does not capture the "content of the communication" exactly what does it capture? The fact that I'm online? My ISP already knows that and probably keeps records that confirm it.

 

[Lancecastor]

If it does not capture the "content of the communication" exactly what does it capture? The fact that I'm online? My ISP already knows that and probably keeps records that confirm it.

They need a court order to get ISP server logs and unless you have a fixed IP address, they can't pin you down anyway.

CIPAV requires no court order and confirms where you're going....presumably to one of their sting web sites.

Hopefully, Laurel & Manu aren't deep cover operatives, or Miles will have some essplaining to do.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

They need a court order to get ISP server logs and unless you have a fixed IP address, they can't pin you down anyway.

CIPAV requires no court order and confirms where you're going....presumably to one of their sting web sites.

Hopefully, Laurel & Manu aren't deep cover operatives, or Miles will have some essplaining to do.

Hmmmm. Let's see.

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[renard_ruse]

We have no reasonable expectation of privacy or freedom in this country period...

Sad but true.

No wonder the country is broke when we waste all this money monitoring people for expressing opinions. Its so insane, it defies any logic at all. Its just about full employment for government workers.

 

[warrior queen]

Sad but true.

No wonder the country is broke when we waste all this money monitoring people for expressing opinions. Its so insane, it defies any logic at all. Its just about full employment for government workers.

i bet those gov't workers are damn grateful they still have jobs.

 

[renard_ruse]

it's always been a given that there is no reasonable expectation of privacy on the net.
and it's also been widely known that certain agencies have the capability of monitoring the web.
anyone with a modicum of intelligence knows this.
so the issue is.....?

The issue is that there should be a "reasonalbe expectation of privacy" on the net. That needs to change and be established now. Better late than never.

 

[fgarvb1]

I would bore the hell out of them.

Besides I kind of hope somebody is keeping an eye out.

It's kind of like those hundreds of multi poundage drug bust where the drugs are discovered after stopping the hauler for a taillight malfunction or they wee speeding or fill in the blank.

yeah...RIGHT!

 

[renard_ruse]

i bet those gov't workers are damn grateful they still have jobs.

That's why they keep spying on everyone.

 

[warrior queen]

The issue is that there should be a "reasonalbe expectation of privacy" on the net. That needs to change and be established now. Better late than never.

why?
why should there be an expectation of privacy?
everyone knows that whatever you put on the net can be seen/read by other people.
if you go on the net thinking otherwise, then you're an idiot.