New Writer - Protest

[Slotownboy]

Can anyone tell me how to protest a decision by the "reviewer"? He/she rejected my stories due to punctuation because of a certian format? Due to certain reasons I want to leave them as they are. They were actual "live stream" between two lovers over great distances. Several writers have seen them and found them facinating...but I need to get past the gate keeper

 

[sr71plt]

Looks like you need to find another Web site--or create your own.

The Web site owners here work their asses off putting through free reads. Send flowers instead.

 

[Hislittlefucktoy]

Slowtownboy,

My on line girl HisLittleFuckToy and I compose our stories in chat.

It sounds like you and your girl do to.

We edit the stories to make them more readable. You should as well.

Dave

 

[PennLady]

Can anyone tell me how to protest a decision by the "reviewer"? He/she rejected my stories due to punctuation because of a certian format? Due to certain reasons I want to leave them as they are. They were actual "live stream" between two lovers over great distances. Several writers have seen them and found them facinating...but I need to get past the gate keeper

You should look specifically at what's said in the rejection message, if there is anything. It may be a neat format, but you may need to look at other ways to get your point across if you want it posted here.

 

[michchick98]

Can anyone tell me how to protest a decision by the "reviewer"? He/she rejected my stories due to punctuation because of a certian format? Due to certain reasons I want to leave them as they are. They were actual "live stream" between two lovers over great distances. Several writers have seen them and found them facinating...but I need to get past the gate keeper

What's the need? Sure, Literotica is probably one of the most read sites on the internet, but if you're that crazy to get your story posted here, then you need to abide by the rules.

That said, did you read the rejection message? Often times, it's formed in a question. Read through what it says. If you see nothing wrong, then include a note in the notes field stating this. Doing so will get someone to look at your story a little more carefully.

If it's still rejected due to formatting, then perhaps you should do as another suggested and have your story edited for proper formatting.

If you're still chomping at the bit to get it published and you can't get it published here, do as sr71plt suggested and try creating your own website. If you do, just make sure the site host you choose allows adult content.

Of course, if you're still insistent on publishing on Literotica, send a PM to Laurel explaining your situation. She has the final say as to what's acceptable.

Here's the direct link:
http://forum.literotica.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=7

 

[Stella_Omega]

As wonderful as the experience was for you and your lover, a transcript is generally pretty uninteresting to everyone else. Stories have beginnings, middles, ends, conflict, character development, world-building-- even in the most rudimentary of forms.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

It might depend on the category you posted it too also. There is a Letters and Transcripts category which might get your dialog published. Also in the notes field for submission ask to leave the format the way it is. That usually gets a person to look at the submission.

 

[baphemetis]

Looks like you need to find another Web site--or create your own.

Absolutely. Many authors are conducting this exact sort of protest and jumping ship to other sites. I ran into similar problems and had many stories rejected for reasons I disagreed with. We need to recognize this is a privately owned and operated site. The powers-that-be have the right to approve what they want, but we have the right to take our stories elsewhere.

Try Stories Online or ASSTR. Your stories will run unedited and they will be up instantly or within a few minutes instead of the days it takes a story to appear on Literotica. I don't know about you, but I got sick of spending countless hours on a story, waiting days for approval and finding a rejection notice.

The Web site owners here work their asses off putting through free reads. Send flowers instead.

Oh please, spare me. They also make money off of advertising so let's not pretend we're running a homeless shelter here.

 

[lovecraft68]

Absolutely. Many authors are conducting this exact sort of protest and jumping ship to other sites. I ran into similar problems and had many stories rejected for reasons I disagreed with. We need to recognize this is a privately owned and operated site. The powers-that-be have the right to approve what they want, but we have the right to take our stories elsewhere.

Try Stories Online or ASSTR. Your stories will run unedited and they will be up instantly or within a few minutes instead of the days it takes a story to appear on Literotica. I don't know about you, but I got sick of spending countless hours on a story, waiting days for approval and finding a rejection notice.



Oh please, spare me. They also make money off of advertising so let's not pretend we're running a homeless shelter here.

You know a lot of authors bitch here then leave and you know what they come back. Edgerinoo is the big example his conflicted series was the best incest series here of all time high scores thousands of votes. he got trolled didn;' think Laurel helped enough and screwed. he is now back posting his sequel. I emailed him welcoming him back and he sent me the link to the otehr site whee conflicted currently is. not a fraction of the views not even close. This site isn't perfect but it is the best.

 

[sr71plt]

Who cares if the bitching writers come back or not? I would guess this is the biggest of the sites on daily push through--and I'm quite certain it is on readership. And is likely to continue to be so.

 

[Dragonlipz]

Can anyone tell me how to protest a decision by the "reviewer"? He/she rejected my stories due to punctuation because of a certian format? Due to certain reasons I want to leave them as they are. They were actual "live stream" between two lovers over great distances. Several writers have seen them and found them facinating...but I need to get past the gate keeper

Protest all ya want - the format and the rules are there for everyone.....not just the Fascinating Few........gatekeepers nothwithstanding...........................

 

[michchick98]

Absolutely. Many authors are conducting this exact sort of protest and jumping ship to other sites. I ran into similar problems and had many stories rejected for reasons I disagreed with. We need to recognize this is a privately owned and operated site. The powers-that-be have the right to approve what they want, but we have the right to take our stories elsewhere.

Do you think that matters one iota to Literotica? For all the 'many authors jumping ship' there are just as many climbing aboard.

Try Stories Online or ASSTR. Your stories will run unedited and they will be up instantly or within a few minutes instead of the days it takes a story to appear on Literotica. I don't know about you, but I got sick of spending countless hours on a story, waiting days for approval and finding a rejection notice.

There are also less views, less votes and a much smaller audience. And really, would you just want to willy nilly submit an unedited work? It only makes you look bad if your work is riddled with errors. Most readers, even if they're just looking for stroke, won't stick around if the story is unreadable.

Oh please, spare me. They also make money off of advertising so let's not pretend we're running a homeless shelter here.

How many premium memberships are actually given at SOL for free because the author has reached the capacity required to get a premium membership?

Wait, how many premium memberships does Literotica have? NONE! People can read stories for free! Imagine that. So even if authors jump ship because they don't like the rules, Literotica has many many more readers than SOL or any other site. Perhaps rules are a good thing.

 

[JackLuis]

I find Lit's 'Standards" very reasonable.

I was on another site and it was a animal farm, literally! But even they had standards, low as they are.

All "Communities" have rules to keep the 'crazy' out of town. Besides it is reasonable to have formats that readers expect, can read easily and enjoy the story.

Perhaps you need to consider it constructive criticism of a technical nature and see if it helps the readers?

 

[EldridgeinOO]

You know a lot of authors bitch here then leave and you know what they come back. Edgerinoo is the big example his conflicted series was the best incest series here of all time high scores thousands of votes. he got trolled didn;' think Laurel helped enough and screwed. he is now back posting his sequel. I emailed him welcoming him back and he sent me the link to the otehr site whee conflicted currently is. not a fraction of the views not even close. This site isn't perfect but it is the best.

Views aren't everything, ya know? I love SOL for not having to put up with all the trolls that absolutely infest Lit. There's also not THAT much difference between the views, since there a view is for the whole story at once, and here it's obviously per chapter. I think in total Lit does have more readers, but it's not as ginormous as the skewed views here on Lit would indicate.

That said, sure, I came back so I could expose the story to some more readers, and get some more feedback. I just ignore all the other crap that goes on around here this time around. Much easier that way.

 

[lettersaroundmidnight]

Ever thought that the editor may be right! They usually are. If you are a new writer, they are invariably experienced editors. If the story is well written they probably know exactly what you are trying to do.

I have just had a story knocked back for punctuation. I reviewed it and re submitted after making the corrections. It's no biggie. Proper punctuation is there to make the writing more understandable. There are rules of punctuation. As writers we don't get it right all the time and an outside view is great.

Its difficult to know what your problem is without seeing an example. I am not sure if it is acceptable to post a sample as that may well be taken to undermine the editing process. It would be an education to see what you consider is ok and what the editor thinks is better. Perhaps a moderator could allow a sample to be posted!

As people are saying if you don't like the rules post elsewhere.

lettersaroundmidnight

 

[lovecraft68]

Can anyone tell me how to protest a decision by the "reviewer"? He/she rejected my stories due to punctuation because of a certian format? Due to certain reasons I want to leave them as they are. They were actual "live stream" between two lovers over great distances. Several writers have seen them and found them facinating...but I need to get past the gate keeper

Another thing I wanted to point out is that if the ydo reject it most of the time it is legit. they are busy and sometimes if something catches their eye in the beginning the ymay not go to the end. I will give you an example that really frustrated me a month ago becasue I didn;t feel i was wrong but ultimately came to the conclusion it is their site and we are working under their rules

I write an incest series so in that category more than anyother they stress the no sex under 18. Personally I have aa small issue with that rule especially in the "first time" category and especially whne non consent is populated by hardcore rape fantasies. anyway I realize my opinion wouldn't get me anywhereso my characters "started" at 18/20
Now in a chapter I have the brother having a dream a "flashback" the first line of the story was "I was 16 and lying in me bed" he had just had a nightmare his sister who has the next bedroom over heard him and comes in to comfort him. I stress they are both dressed even describing the night shirt she is wearing, she liesdown next to him and puts her arm around him so he will fall back to sleep. No sex I put this in to show their bond prior to their sexual relationship and because I try to give the characters depth (we were not born at 18)
The story was rejected with the question "Did you have under age sex) or to that effect. bottom line was that first line saying he was 16 got it booted the ywent no further, I was pissed but it toook five minuted to change 2 sentences and get it resubmitted otherwise what would I do? stick to my "guns" and never post the story?
there are sites who will allow under 18 as well as god knows what else but i would never go there because they are considered sleazy. These rules are what makes LIt a cut above the rest and despite that incident I would never think of leaving.

 

[Guest]

rejected story?

Here's a suggestion Mr. Scouries made on the SCOURIES thread over 3 years ago. It was addressed to QUENN LAUREL (with a copy to Prince Manu ).

Unfortunately it was never acted upon and so every month or so we get another thread like this one...

[size=+2]Gabrielle L.[/size]
President, A.I.R.
Secretery of the MOST COMMENTED on
and the MOST VOTED on story clubs
Miami Beach, Florida



SCOURIES SUGGESTION #4 – Why not give a detailed reason when you Reject a Story

I’ve had about 13 out of the 58 or so stories I’ve submitted to Literotica rejected. Some have been rejected up to five times! I’m always surprised when one is rejected. I think I understand Literotica’s rules and while I may not agree with them I do try to write my stories to conform to them. When a story of mine is rejected I rush to try and find the problem and correct it. My stories have been rejected for the following reasons:

*Poor Grammar
*Underage Characters
*Snuff Scene
*Wrong Category
*Bestiality

But when one of the censors rejects a story they don’t provide very specific details – instead there is a line that asks something like ‘is there an underage character in this story?’ or ‘is this in the right category?’ or ‘does this story include bestiality?’ Shit, if you’ve read the story and decided it needs rejection why not be a little more specific?

Strangely at least nine of the thirteen stories I’ve had rejected were subsequently accepted without me making any changes at all! I just resubmit them with a note like ‘I looked for the underage character and don’t believe there are any of them in this story– I’d be happy to change something if you have some specific problem – please advise’. One of two things happens; one, usually the story is accepted without comment, or two, it’s rejected again but with again no highlighting of the exact problem.

I believe it would save me time and worry, as well as save your censors time, if they were quite specific when they reject a story. Something like, ‘Sally is only 16 years old when she has sex with Arthur in the middle of page two in your story – this is unacceptable and must be changed,’ or ‘it is not okay for Sally to have vaginal/penile intercourse with the dolphin in the second paragraph’.

I’ll then be able to immediately address the problem instead of slogging through ten thousand words trying to figure out what I’ve done wrong.

So please, for all of our sakes, talk to your censors and get them to be a bit more specific in future.
​

 

[TxRad]

No scouries, they are just picking on you for no reason. Oh yeah, and learn to spell Queen, will ya before you get another rejection.

 

[amicus]

You people, all of you, disgust me.

How in the hell do you think 'change' comes about? Everyone sitting affably around a table and smiling?

Over the years, Manu has made several changes in Literotica; some, as I recall, at the request of those who contribute stories here.

Laurel came on one of the Threads a few weeks ago and made a funny about, 'Dikileaks' as a poor condom advertisement.

I am not supporting the new writer, I have no idea and don't care as to the particular issue. What I do care about is the conformist, go along with all the rules mentality of the so called writers here. You might better be described as 'scribes' copying religious mantra fastidiously without ever questioning what you copy.

Where is the vomit emoticon?

Amicus Veritas who used to applaud the 'FREE SPEECH, NO SPAM', Logo of Literotica.

 

[Darkniciad]

Everyone seems to have forgotten the obvious. You could try submitting the story again, stating that the punctuation "errors" are on purpose. It may or may not get through when Laurel takes a closer look at it. If what you're doing is stylistic -- perhaps related to the chat nature of the retelling, it might go through.

Depending upon how it is written, it might go through if put in the Letters and Transcripts category ( just guessing by the minimal description provided )

Review of stories is -- by necessity -- quick and dirty. If Laurel sees something irregular, it gets a rejection stamp and she moves on. If you're doing something odd, or there's a scene that could be misinterpreted as something it's not, you should utilize the "notes" section of the submission form to point it out.

The one rejection I had was because I forgot to do that. I'd used a lot of special characters in my scene breaks, and it came back with an HTML rejection. I PM'd Laurel just to confirm ( because I'd used special characters before ) and she explained that she probably just reacted without really seeing what they were. It looked like HTML code inserted in the story, so she stamped it and moved on.

 

[PennLady]

You people, all of you, disgust me.

....

I am not supporting the new writer, I have no idea and don't care as to the particular issue. What I do care about is the conformist, go along with all the rules mentality of the so called writers here. You might better be described as 'scribes' copying religious mantra fastidiously without ever questioning what you copy.

Where is the vomit emoticon?

Amicus Veritas who used to applaud the 'FREE SPEECH, NO SPAM', Logo of Literotica.

Good grief. People pointing out the rules of the site to a new writer makes you want to vomit? Methinks you need to relax. If they want the rules to change, certainly the writer can approach Laurel and Manu and ask that they change. However, there are rules in place and until they are changed, writers need to go along with them.

This is a privately owned and run site. If this is how they want to run things, they can.

 

[amicus]

Only as government becomes more pervasive does it seem to prompt you conformists to note that this is a 'private' site, hell, everything should be and it should be so without censorship, restriction and regulation. MTV has a series, 'Skins' about 15 year olds having sex and doing drugs, another channel has along running series, "16 and Pregnant". yet, anything under 18 is banned here, that will eventually change and benefit the site, as perhaps will the 'new' dialogue the 'new' writer is offering.

But nothing will change anywhere unless some brave new innovator pushes the envelope of restrictive rules and regulations. The political attitude on this forum is synonymous with the mental restrictrions in a totalitarian society, most of which have gone the way of the dinosaur.

Only the Church hasn't changed; they still bugger little boys.

Sighs...

Amicus

 

[sr71plt]

Good grief. People pointing out the rules of the site to a new writer makes you want to vomit? Methinks you need to relax. If they want the rules to change, certainly the writer can approach Laurel and Manu and ask that they change. However, there are rules in place and until they are changed, writers need to go along with them.

This is a privately owned and run site. If this is how they want to run things, they can.

He's just feeling sad that no one is paying any attention to him and that even the GB gave him the heave ho, PL. So he's trying to be as provocative as he can be.

My suggestion is just to ignore him and let him stew in his irrelevance.

 

[lovecraft68]

You people, all of you, disgust me.

How in the hell do you think 'change' comes about? Everyone sitting affably around a table and smiling?

Over the years, Manu has made several changes in Literotica; some, as I recall, at the request of those who contribute stories here.

Laurel came on one of the Threads a few weeks ago and made a funny about, 'Dikileaks' as a poor condom advertisement.

I am not supporting the new writer, I have no idea and don't care as to the particular issue. What I do care about is the conformist, go along with all the rules mentality of the so called writers here. You might better be described as 'scribes' copying religious mantra fastidiously without ever questioning what you copy.

Where is the vomit emoticon?

Amicus Veritas who used to applaud the 'FREE SPEECH, NO SPAM', Logo of Literotica.

I also take into account the fact that this is a free site I do not pay anything to post my stories here so at the end of the day how much could I complain? I am certainly getting my money's worth. I have work I am planning on publishing i use lit as a sounding board for feedback and I post on threads for fun if I'm bored. What I think is disgusting is people who have taken what is essentially a "sex site" and tried to use it as a place to get oon their soap box and preach their political opinions. There are wb sites specifically dedicated to just those topics. Perhaps you got kicked off of them. This is the AH we talk about author related topics the new guy was a little upset and he vented some people tried to explain it to him, as usual it turns into squabbling and now also as usual someone like yourself comes in and tries to make it political and get in one of your little diatribes about freedom and conformity I mean for Christ's sakes we're talking about author's ratings go save the world in the GB would you?

 

[lovecraft68]

Only as government becomes more pervasive does it seem to prompt you conformists to note that this is a 'private' site, hell, everything should be and it should be so without censorship, restriction and regulation. MTV has a series, 'Skins' about 15 year olds having sex and doing drugs, another channel has along running series, "16 and Pregnant". yet, anything under 18 is banned here, that will eventually change and benefit the site, as perhaps will the 'new' dialogue the 'new' writer is offering.

But nothing will change anywhere unless some brave new innovator pushes the envelope of restrictive rules and regulations. The political attitude on this forum is synonymous with the mental restrictrions in a totalitarian society, most of which have gone the way of the dinosaur.

Only the Church hasn't changed; they still bugger little boys.

Sighs...

Amicus

although I disagree with your other remarks I will chime in you are correct to me anyway with the under age topic. This site contains flat out rape stories women being tied to trees and gangbanged while they are screaming and crying. To me if that gets you off well okay whatever but heaven forbid we see sexat the age of 16 which is probably the average age. people always assume it's incest writers like myself that want it lowerd but think about the "first time" category everyone was 18 when they had sex? oh please. as I said in my other post I got a story booted for using the line "I was 16" no sex followed in that paragraph it wasa flashback because I don;t feel my characters were born at 18 it got kicked off. at the end of the day it was chnage a line or not post it. I decided to play ball. fro the record this is not just lit I am looking at e-publishers and the few that will touch incest still insist on 18.
For the record the MTV thing makes me sick, I have teenage daughters this shit should not be glorified