mysteriousman
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I new to the bondage writing and have a idea about a reporter named Melody who goes undercover at Bdsm club any ideas to get it started would be appreciated.
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Do your reading. There are tons of quality BDSM stories on Lit and quite a few of them involve clubs. Some of them might even be accurate! Plus, while you're learning about clubs, you'll be absorbing genuine BDSM attitudes and terminology, crucial if you don't want it to be obvious this is your first attempt at the genre. Basically, research is your best bet. G'luck.
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mysteriousman, I have no wish to appear unhelpful, but you may get a better reponse if you were to post your question in the 'story ideas' forum.
As Quint so rightly pointed out, you will need to do a lot of reading and research - and there are plenty of sites out there that will possibly give you the information you seek.
As Quint so rightly pointed out, you will need to do a lot of reading and research - and there are plenty of sites out there that will possibly give you the information you seek.
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Willow, I cant really agree with you. I have not found the story ideas or story feedback boards to be particularly helpful, especially in regard to some of our more, shall we say, specialized interests.
I wonder what everyone would think, (Risia? Cym?) of having one dedicated thread here for story discussion?
I wonder what everyone would think, (Risia? Cym?) of having one dedicated thread here for story discussion?
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Oh right. I've not actually used either forum myself. I am only just plucking up courage to dip my toe into the general board on occasion. Thinking about it - I really ought not to have pointed somebody in a direction that I had no knowledge of. Sorry.
A dedicated story thread might be useful.
A dedicated story thread might be useful.
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WillowPuss said:
Sweetie, you were just trying to be helpful.
Now be careful out there on the GB, they are a wild bunch, I tell ya!
A slightly less terse reply, because I'm intrigued now
(I LIKE the idea of a story topic thread! Let's go fer it!) (Who made me Thread Goddess, you ask? Bah! Smitings upon you!)
MysteriousMan, how do you visualize Melody? Is she someone who would enjoy being in charge of somebody else, a Domme figure? Or do you see her as eagerly yielding to a capable partner's not-so-tender ministrations? Or would she enjoy both? Is she sadistic/masochistic or merely in it for the power exchange? These are specialized areas which you should know all sorts of things about before tackling the story--it's not all whips, black vinyl, and that terrible scrotum-stretcher MzChrista is so fond of. Where does Melody fit in when she enters this scene?
I've actually never been to a club (grumble grumble) so I can't give you any real life experience there, but I do know about power exchange and the mindset behind it, as do most if not all of the worthies here. Give us some specifics and we'll have better answers. But still, do your background reading. Don't expect us to feed you a story.
(I LIKE the idea of a story topic thread! Let's go fer it!) (Who made me Thread Goddess, you ask? Bah! Smitings upon you!)
MysteriousMan, how do you visualize Melody? Is she someone who would enjoy being in charge of somebody else, a Domme figure? Or do you see her as eagerly yielding to a capable partner's not-so-tender ministrations? Or would she enjoy both? Is she sadistic/masochistic or merely in it for the power exchange? These are specialized areas which you should know all sorts of things about before tackling the story--it's not all whips, black vinyl, and that terrible scrotum-stretcher MzChrista is so fond of. Where does Melody fit in when she enters this scene?
I've actually never been to a club (grumble grumble) so I can't give you any real life experience there, but I do know about power exchange and the mindset behind it, as do most if not all of the worthies here. Give us some specifics and we'll have better answers. But still, do your background reading. Don't expect us to feed you a story.
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One of the writer's here might be able to help. The other thing that comes to my mind is the authors in the Author Hangout might be of some help. There are several writers here who are not involved in BDSM but write really good, true-to-life, BDSM stories. Perhaps if you ask them where they did their research, how they came to write BDSM so well, you would have a good starting point.
The links for newbies thread here http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73517 has numerous links that will give good info about BDSM basics.
Good luck.
The links for newbies thread here http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73517 has numerous links that will give good info about BDSM basics.
Good luck.
KillerMuffin
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Thanks for the link, mg.
How to start writing BDSM 101
by KillerMuffin
Like Quint said, research. And lots of it.
There are two kinds of BDSM stories in existence. There are stories written by people who actually understand BDSM and there's the stories written by people who just hurt people.
Here are some concepts that you must understand to write good BDSM:
1. Safe-Sane-Consensual
2. Consensual (It bears repeating that if it's not consensual, it's not BDSM)
3. Power exchange
4. TRUST <-- This is the BDSM cornerstone.
5. BDSM is mental sex, it's not about the whips and the chains at all. It's all about power exchange and trust. Everything else is frosting.
6. New submissives do not become instant hard core kinksters over night. New dominants do not instantly know what to do.
The first thing to do is to decide how you're going to approach your story. Is it one story or a series?
The second thing is to decide how your protagonist will change. What will she learn? What is her beginning attitude toward BDSM and what is her ending attitude toward BDSM?
The next thing is to pick your antagonist. The one where the conflict comes from. How will this person effect the protagonist? Is this person a BDSMer?
Build some believable characters, build a series of conflicts to put them through (plot), and then begin writing. You'll need research to create believable conflicts and characters.
Ask questions. Start threads, or read old threads. Read the Mother Thread. Trust me on this one, it's a gold mine of information. http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39661
Any writing questions, go ahead and ask them here. The Author's Hangout will be some help, but not BDSM specific help.
How to start writing BDSM 101
by KillerMuffin
Like Quint said, research. And lots of it.
There are two kinds of BDSM stories in existence. There are stories written by people who actually understand BDSM and there's the stories written by people who just hurt people.
Here are some concepts that you must understand to write good BDSM:
1. Safe-Sane-Consensual
2. Consensual (It bears repeating that if it's not consensual, it's not BDSM)
3. Power exchange
4. TRUST <-- This is the BDSM cornerstone.
5. BDSM is mental sex, it's not about the whips and the chains at all. It's all about power exchange and trust. Everything else is frosting.
6. New submissives do not become instant hard core kinksters over night. New dominants do not instantly know what to do.
The first thing to do is to decide how you're going to approach your story. Is it one story or a series?
The second thing is to decide how your protagonist will change. What will she learn? What is her beginning attitude toward BDSM and what is her ending attitude toward BDSM?
The next thing is to pick your antagonist. The one where the conflict comes from. How will this person effect the protagonist? Is this person a BDSMer?
Build some believable characters, build a series of conflicts to put them through (plot), and then begin writing. You'll need research to create believable conflicts and characters.
Ask questions. Start threads, or read old threads. Read the Mother Thread. Trust me on this one, it's a gold mine of information. http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39661
Any writing questions, go ahead and ask them here. The Author's Hangout will be some help, but not BDSM specific help.
CarolineOh
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KM, thanks for that great post. I should make clear that when I said I didn't think the other forums were helpful, it was in regards to bdsm ,specifically, and not that they were not good places to get advice on writing.
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KillerMuffin said:Thanks for the link, mg.
5. BDSM is mental sex, it's not about the whips and the chains at all. It's all about power exchange and trust. Everything else is frosting.
I have to disagree. That's like saying sex only happens between married couples. A lot of bdsm involves whips and chains and very little else.
KillerMuffin
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So you could dom someone without trust and power exchange.
Why do I so not believe that.
Why do I so not believe that.
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KM
Not wanting to get in an arguement on this matter,...but WriterDom didn't say he could dom someone without trust and power exchange.
What he said was:
"I have to disagree. That's like saying sex only happens between married couples.
A lot of bdsm involves whips and chains and very little else."
KillerMuffin said:
Not wanting to get in an arguement on this matter,...but WriterDom didn't say he could dom someone without trust and power exchange.
What he said was:
"I have to disagree. That's like saying sex only happens between married couples.
A lot of bdsm involves whips and chains and very little else."
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Re: KM
Artful,
why not go back and look at what WD quoted and said he disagreed with? I read his disagreement the exact same way KM did. After your post, I went back and re-read his. I still read it the exact same way KM did.
Artful,
why not go back and look at what WD quoted and said he disagreed with? I read his disagreement the exact same way KM did. After your post, I went back and re-read his. I still read it the exact same way KM did.
artful said:
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Re: monster666
Just scroll up, and read what WD quoted and then said he disagreed with. It's THAT way ^^^^^^^^^^
Just scroll up, and read what WD quoted and then said he disagreed with. It's THAT way ^^^^^^^^^^
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Re: Re: KM
I throw in with WD on this one.
Besides, the real point is that BDSM is not as clearly and structurally defined as KM lays out in her BDSM101 for newbies.
"Here are some concepts that you must understand to write good BDSM: "
To which I say: piffle. You neededn't understand any of that to write a ripping good bdsm yarn....KM might not want to read it though.
The newbie should read, research, learn the basic conventions....then break as many of the Rules as possible. No art until the Rules are thrown out....a la Ansel Adams.
LC
monster666 said:
I throw in with WD on this one.
Besides, the real point is that BDSM is not as clearly and structurally defined as KM lays out in her BDSM101 for newbies.
"Here are some concepts that you must understand to write good BDSM: "
To which I say: piffle. You neededn't understand any of that to write a ripping good bdsm yarn....KM might not want to read it though.
The newbie should read, research, learn the basic conventions....then break as many of the Rules as possible. No art until the Rules are thrown out....a la Ansel Adams.
LC
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The way I read WD's comment was that BDSM can happen with whips and chains but without trust and power exchange. I know it can happen without whips and chains. D/s is a mental exchange between dom and sub and everything else is "frosting," or tools and pleasure added on to make it more interesting/fun/what have you. I thought BDSMers considered it abuse if it happened with whips and chains only.
I've always thought that the whips and chains were one of the things that were most misunderstood about BDSM by outsiders. People think that in order to have BDSM you have to have the leather and the dungeon. But if you get down to BDSM, right down to its core, it's simply a submissive trusting a dominant enough to give the dom his or her power. That's the root of BDSM. Everything else is a part of it, but not intrinsic.
Like I said, I've been wrong before. I don't think I am this time, but will bow to greater knowledge.
I've always thought that the whips and chains were one of the things that were most misunderstood about BDSM by outsiders. People think that in order to have BDSM you have to have the leather and the dungeon. But if you get down to BDSM, right down to its core, it's simply a submissive trusting a dominant enough to give the dom his or her power. That's the root of BDSM. Everything else is a part of it, but not intrinsic.
Like I said, I've been wrong before. I don't think I am this time, but will bow to greater knowledge.
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Personally....
....I think Front Lawn Butt Sex, aside from being a wonderful story, would also make a great name for a band.
If BDSM were 100% mental.....well then it follows that traditional 1950's marriages would be BDSM relationships.....right dear? (yes dear).
But again...the newbie's Question....I say read Front Lawn Butt Sex as a start...
And catch them on tour this summer at an arena near you!
LC
....I think Front Lawn Butt Sex, aside from being a wonderful story, would also make a great name for a band.
If BDSM were 100% mental.....well then it follows that traditional 1950's marriages would be BDSM relationships.....right dear? (yes dear).
But again...the newbie's Question....I say read Front Lawn Butt Sex as a start...
And catch them on tour this summer at an arena near you!
LC
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I'm saying that the bdsm world is much larger than what you find in the Mother thread.
If you visited a gay bdsm club in NYC, you'd find a third of the people scening, a third jacking off, and a third crawling around asking permission to lick boots.
So you could dom someone without trust and power exchange?
There is always trust and power exchange, but it isn't contained in a neat little package of nilla coke and wantabee bdsm.
If you visited a gay bdsm club in NYC, you'd find a third of the people scening, a third jacking off, and a third crawling around asking permission to lick boots.
So you could dom someone without trust and power exchange?
There is always trust and power exchange, but it isn't contained in a neat little package of nilla coke and wantabee bdsm.
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WriterDom said:
Okay, I am quite sure that's true.
WriterDom said:
Okay, again true enough.
But wait - if this is true, then what was the disagreement with what KM was saying? She said nothing of nilla coke or wanta-anything.
I think KM has a pretty good handle on things, actually. If you analyze the thought processes involved in almost any BDSM situation or relationship, you will see common components she describes either expressed, implied or assumed. A power transfer can occur without even being aware of it. BDSM is a very mental activity, even if it's manifestation is very physical.
I never heard of an ass that had a desire to be whipped all on it's own. Desire, contrary to what Cupidians might say, comes from the brain.
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Safe Sane and Consentual...
...are three words that this Forum advises us ALL to use in our pursuit of BDSM activities. I happen to agree with that advice, but there are many who don't. Do I consider them BDSM'ers? You
betcha!
There are many situations where a sub stays with her Dom out of FEAR. Do I consider them BDSM'ers?
You betcha! Do I Dom that way? Hell no,...but to say those people are NOT into BDSM,(IMHO), is clearly not true.
There are MANY more examples where TRUST is not a significant part of a BDSM relationship,...SOME just don't give a shit! Others may contribute if there is further debate on the issue.
...are three words that this Forum advises us ALL to use in our pursuit of BDSM activities. I happen to agree with that advice, but there are many who don't. Do I consider them BDSM'ers? You
betcha!
There are many situations where a sub stays with her Dom out of FEAR. Do I consider them BDSM'ers?
You betcha! Do I Dom that way? Hell no,...but to say those people are NOT into BDSM,(IMHO), is clearly not true.
There are MANY more examples where TRUST is not a significant part of a BDSM relationship,...SOME just don't give a shit! Others may contribute if there is further debate on the issue.
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Re: Safe Sane and Consentual...
That's just abuse, pure and simple, and has zero to do with BDSM.
And calling it BDSM is akin to calling Charlie Manson a man of "family values".
That's just abuse, pure and simple, and has zero to do with BDSM.
And calling it BDSM is akin to calling Charlie Manson a man of "family values".
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Re: monster666
You should. My opinion is based on my own research of BDSM definitions as defined online by numerous BDSM sites, as well as research done by several others here, and some personal experience. It's not based on what some clueless dimestore novelist has to say about it.
So you see, it's not just my opinion. It is what it is. Anything else is just not generally accepted as BDSM by the BDSM community at large.
artful said:
You should. My opinion is based on my own research of BDSM definitions as defined online by numerous BDSM sites, as well as research done by several others here, and some personal experience. It's not based on what some clueless dimestore novelist has to say about it.
So you see, it's not just my opinion. It is what it is. Anything else is just not generally accepted as BDSM by the BDSM community at large.
