New Chevy Volt to get 230 MPG

[ChauvanistPig]

WARREN, Mich. — General Motors said Tuesday its Chevrolet Volt electric car could get 230 mpg in city driving, making it the first American vehicle to achieve triple-digit fuel economy if that figure is confirmed by federal regulators.

But when the four-door family sedan hits showrooms late next year, its efficiency will come with a steep sticker price: $40,000.

Still, the Volt's fuel efficiency in the city would be four times more than the popular Toyota Prius hybrid, the most efficient car now sold in the U.S.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/11/gm-new-chevy-volt-to-get-_n_256369.html

I guess they just realized that they had some patent rights laying around.

 

[retd]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/11/gm-new-chevy-volt-to-get-_n_256369.html

I guess they just realized that they had some patent rights laying around.

if it gets the rating good for G.M .But I think its another pie in the sky, a company that will say any thing to survive and to get more of that goverment money.

 

[jeninflorida]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/11/gm-new-chevy-volt-to-get-_n_256369.html

I guess they just realized that they had some patent rights laying around.

take back the stimulas money, and give every american a chevy vold. omg what an idea, get some workers working, push the auto industry into making better cars, since we are paying for gm anyway why not?

can you imagine what that would do to the oil companies? also oil producing countries...

 

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[1hotbabe]

I'm not spending $40,000.00 for a car gas or electric.

 

[Rockie Montana]

I hear its a fire hazard and will electrocute the passengers.

 

[Fyreguy2006]

230 miles to the gallon of gasoline. Sure. But the fact is it is a plug in rechargeable electric car. In other words you plug it into an electric outlet to recharge it. Um, where does the electiricity come from? More than likely a COAL burning power plant in a good portion on the country. So much for clean energy. What a joke...emission free. Sure the car is, what about the source of the electricity? What about recycling those power cells in the car?

Seriously, it is a step in the right direction. But let's not get all giddy yet. It still requires a fuel of some sort to be burned to recharge the batteries.

 

[jeninflorida]

yeah people forget this little detail....still say we need more nuke power

230 miles to the gallon of gasoline. Sure. But the fact is it is a plug in rechargeable electric car. In other words you plug it into an electric outlet to recharge it. Um, where does the electiricity come from? More than likely a COAL burning power plant in a good portion on the country. So much for clean energy. What a joke...emission free. Sure the car is, what about the source of the electricity? What about recycling those power cells in the car?

Seriously, it is a step in the right direction. But let's not get all giddy yet. It still requires a fuel of somesort to be burned to recharge the batteries.

 

[Rockie Montana]

230 miles to the gallon of gasoline. Sure. But the fact is it is a plug in rechargeable electric car. In other words you plug it into an electric outlet to recharge it. Um, where does the electiricity come from? More than likely a COAL burning power plant in a good portion on the country. So much for clean energy. What a joke...emission free. Sure the car is, what about the source of the electricity? What about recycling those power cells in the car?

Seriously, it is a step in the right direction. But let's not get all giddy yet. It still requires a fuel of somesort to be burned to recharge the batteries.

Maybe Dodge will announce a new pedal car in the future.

 

[Fyreguy2006]

Maybe Dodge will announce a new pedal car in the future.

I just want someone to explain to me why with all the "Modern technology" we have today that my 1987 Ford Escort 4 cylinder 5 speed got 45 mpg on the highway, my 1995 Plymouth Neon 4 cylinder 5 speed got 35 mpg on the highway (With 200,000 miles on it) and my 2001 Ford Focus (which I fondly have nicknamed the Fuck Us) with a 4 cylinder automatic on its best day gets 28 mpg on the highway.

Was the Ford Escort a superior car? I know for damn sure it was a better car than this piece of shit Focus.

I don't believe for one second that the efficiency of the internal combustion engine has even come close to being realized. If I could get 45 mpg in 1985 one would think that mpg's of near 100 should be easily attained today. I would suppose there is more government money in alternative energy experimentation than in increasing efficiency in what we already have.

It's all a game and as usual we are all pawns.

 

[pink]

God $40,000? Car better not just run nice but look fucking good too.


Will anyone spend that kind of money?

 

[NaughtyLil1]

God $40,000? Car better not just run nice but look fucking good too.


Will anyone spend that kind of money?

They will and do. I have a friend who just recently bought a Buick for 47,000. To me, that's crazy, but it's normal business for a lot of folks.

 

[Beco]

230 miles to the gallon of gasoline. Sure. But the fact is it is a plug in rechargeable electric car. In other words you plug it into an electric outlet to recharge it. Um, where does the electiricity come from? More than likely a COAL burning power plant in a good portion on the country. So much for clean energy. What a joke...emission free. Sure the car is, what about the source of the electricity? What about recycling those power cells in the car?

Seriously, it is a step in the right direction. But let's not get all giddy yet. It still requires a fuel of some sort to be burned to recharge the batteries.

I was thinking the same thing, sort of like we are going around in circles. You charge up the battery after 40 miles, Nissan is going to market their car next year and you rechage that after 100 miles. But if you can afford a $40k car, why worry about gas prices?

 

[TurdFergeson]

People used to charrge their GM EV-1's with solar panels on their garage roofs.

 

[jeninflorida]

People used to charrge their GM EV-1's with solar panels on their garage roofs.

was looking at solor chargers...the shop wanted $2,500 for one to charge up a golf cart

 

[JohnnySavage]

We need someone who can do the maths on this...

If you drive 12K miles per year and at 230 mpg, you would use 52 gallons of gas.

If you have a car of similar size and comforts, you get... about 28 mpg and use 429 gallons of gas.

Now, the Volt is $40,000 and the comparable car is about $25,000.

So with gas at $3 a gallon, the volt costs $156 per year in gas, and the other car costs $1,287.

That is a savings of $1,131 per year with a car that costs $15,000 more.

Then it would take just over 13 years to break even.

Right?

 

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[JohnnySavage]

How long will your $10,000 battery last? Does the Chevy Volt satisfy your particular needs? Does it diminish your freedom of movement?

What if you are in a wreck... Wouldn't battery acid be all over the place? Some snail-darters may be killed.


...never mind, I see they are lithium ion not lead acid batteries.

 

[tinylittlegnat]

We need someone who can do the maths on this...

If you drive 12K miles per year and at 230 mpg, you would use 52 gallons of gas.

If you have a car of similar size and comforts, you get... about 28 mpg and use 429 gallons of gas.

Now, the Volt is $40,000 and the comparable car is about $25,000.

So with gas at $3 a gallon, the volt costs $156 per year in gas, and the other car costs $1,287.

That is a savings of $1,131 per year with a car that costs $15,000 more.

Then it would take just over 13 years to break even.

Right?

from what i read for the first 40 miles it uses zero gasoline. the average person drives less than 40 miles a day. after the first 40 the car uses gas to charge the electric engine. it plugs into any electric outlet and cost less than a dollar to charge it all the way.

and they havnt said the price yet. its gonna be between 30k and 40k with a govt rebate of 7500. as they get to mass producing them they will become cheaper just like the hybrids did.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

I just want someone to explain to me why with all the "Modern technology" we have today that my 1987 Ford Escort 4 cylinder 5 speed got 45 mpg on the highway, my 1995 Plymouth Neon 4 cylinder 5 speed got 35 mpg on the highway (With 200,000 miles on it) and my 2001 Ford Focus (which I fondly have nicknamed the Fuck Us) with a 4 cylinder automatic on its best day gets 28 mpg on the highway.

Was the Ford Escort a superior car? I know for damn sure it was a better car than this piece of shit Focus.

I don't believe for one second that the efficiency of the internal combustion engine has even come close to being realized. If I could get 45 mpg in 1985 one would think that mpg's of near 100 should be easily attained today. I would suppose there is more government money in alternative energy experimentation than in increasing efficiency in what we already have.

It's all a game and as usual we are all pawns.

Likewise, the maximum efficiency of a pure electric car has yet to be realized.

 

[pointless]

this is why i still come here. you people never fail me. i always leave this site feeling smarter than i did when i signed in.

 

[JohnnySavage]

from what i read for the first 40 miles it uses zero gasoline. the average person drives less than 40 miles a day. after the first 40 the car uses gas to charge the electric engine. it plugs into any electric outlet and cost less than a dollar to charge it all the way.

and they havnt said the price yet. its gonna be between 30k and 40k with a govt rebate of 7500. as they get to mass producing them they will become cheaper just like the hybrids did.

But that calculus was beyond my ability.

I think electric cars are the future, especially for city-dwellers, and hope the Volt blazes the trail.

After all these years though, you'd think we would have a better battery. Battery technology would solve a lot of the problems with renewable power sources.

 

[TurdFergeson]

was looking at solor chargers...the shop wanted $2,500 for one to charge up a golf cart

yep...would pay for itself rather quickly.

 

[_stryder_]

But that calculus was beyond my ability.

I think electric cars are the future, especially for city-dwellers, and hope the Volt blazes the trail.

After all these years though, you'd think we would have a better battery. Battery technology would solve a lot of the problems with renewable power sources.

What I want to know is where are all these city dwellers going to plug their cars in to recharge the batteries? Will they use really long extension cords?

 

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