Nazi porn?????

[Dr. B]

I was listening to my morning radio show and a lady said she was into nazi porn. what the hell is nazi porn?

 

[DRxBlue]

Gee...i oughta KNOW this too!

Cool ID Dr. B i hope nobody gets us confused. (at least no more confused than we already are)

i've been a student of porn since it first really surfaced in the early 70's. i suppose this would be one of the "costume porn" varieties i've seen popping up fairly lately.

i've seen 15th century stuff, knights in armor ravishing damsels with lots of petticoats.

Lately The Mob has become a target for this kinda thing. "Gangster Porn" they call it, no relation to Gangsta Rap. Pin stripe suits and shoulder holster.

Once the costumes are gone it all turns out the same.

i'll keep an eye open, if i find out anything more, i'll post you a URL here.

i still love porn, it led me to Lit

Don't do anything to disgrace our profession now.

Doctor Blue

 

[Quint]

hey Blue

Hook me up with some medieval porn! I'm all about the helpless damsels in distress, being rescued by a dark and brawny knight...and then discovering that their "savior" is really the villain who takes the poor girl back to the dungeon to do all sorts of dastardly unspeakable things to them...

::forcibly shuts her mouth::

 

[DRxBlue]

Here's another thought!

There's another thread up right now at:
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77581

It concerns costumed "Interrogation Scenes". This is something i had NO idea existed, but that's hardly surprising since 5 weeks ago i knew nothing about BDSM.

It seems that Nazi Interrogations have quite a devoted following. People invest in their own costumes, build their identities, have all kinds of fun. (and i DO mean all kinds<lol>)

The caller on the radio might have been referring to something like that. It isn't porn unless you take pictures, and show them to ME, as far as i'm concerned.

And as for YOU! oh Essense of Fiveness. i've only seen a few sample pictures of the 15th century porn, never caught a URL. It was long enough ago that i wouldn't even be able to track it down with my "History" function.

Rest assured that if i see anything similar again i'll fire it off to you at the speed of light. (or close)

i'd do ANYTHING to keep you hot and steamy, even though hunny gets the benefit.

Blue

 

[Dr. B]

Re: Here's another thought!

There's another thread up right now at:
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77581

It concerns costumed "Interrogation Scenes". This is something i had NO idea existed, but that's hardly surprising since 5 weeks ago i knew nothing about BDSM.

It seems that Nazi Interrogations have quite a devoted following. People invest in their own costumes, build their identities, have all kinds of fun. (and i DO mean all kinds<lol>)

The caller on the radio might have been referring to something like that. It isn't porn unless you take pictures, and show them to ME, as far as i'm concerned.

And as for YOU! oh Essense of Fiveness. i've only seen a few sample pictures of the 15th century porn, never caught a URL. It was long enough ago that i wouldn't even be able to track it down with my "History" function.

Rest assured that if i see anything similar again i'll fire it off to you at the speed of light. (or close)

i'd do ANYTHING to keep you hot and steamy, even though hunny gets the benefit.

Blue

Thanks, will check it out now! And if I find it soon, I will hook you up bro.

 

[shayne_mayhem]

Does anyone know of Nazi porn which involves the Nazis being forced into submission? Cuz, THAT'S something I'd pay to see.

 

[Netzach]

Does anyone know of Nazi porn which involves the Nazis being forced into submission? Cuz, THAT'S something I'd pay to see.

I've never seen that, but man that could be really hot. A couple of buzzcut partisan chicks feeding some aryan his or her own gun...

hmmmmmm....ideas.

 

[snowy ciara]

May I please volunteer to be your nazi? I know I'm not tough and scary and stuff, but I'd fake it for you!

 

[Bikewer]

I don't have a link right now, but with old 50s and 60s "mens" magazines like True, Argosy, and many others it was common to feature lurid cover paintings featuring women in various forms of creative bondage, menaced by Nazi interrogators. This theme was also done with Japanese bad guys during and slightly after the war, but it didn't seem to be quite as evocative.

Example:

http://www.laluzdejesus.com/shows/previousshows/2003/saunders.htm

No doubt this was sufficiently compelling for folks to act out such scenes.

 

[snowy ciara]

Very cool link, Bikewer. Thanks!

 

[Dstorage]

There were a few movies way back when, the first one was called "Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS" and of course it spawned a few sequels. I never saw any of them, but the basic story line was chick from the resistance captured, handsome yank pilot, and nympho nazi lesbians.....

 

[shayne_mayhem]

I've never seen that, but man that could be really hot. A couple of buzzcut partisan chicks feeding some aryan his or her own gun...

hmmmmmm....ideas.

Gah! Lovely ideas!!
I think it's a shame these things don't already exist. But if you know any handsome "aryan" boyos who'd want to dress up like Nazis and take pictures.......and get their arses whupped.......well....just let me know!

 

[sphynx's dragon]

Gah! Lovely ideas!!
I think it's a shame these things don't already exist. But if you know any handsome "aryan" boyos who'd want to dress up like Nazis and take pictures.......and get their arses whupped.......well....just let me know!

Hmmm...well I'm not exactly "aryan". But I do keep my head shaved...and I get "whupped" on a semi-regular basis...Can I volunteer???? Please?

 

[shayne_mayhem]

Mmmm....that would be lovely.

 

[abseitigenbahn]

errmmm

not sure the 3rd reich wouldve approved porn -even as propaganda -if they had its probably have been grim boring dull -not evne kitsch. if they had its be the only decent thing about it. theres an album (70's ambient, avavnt, experimental etc) by brian eno and robert fripp called "(no pussyfooting) swastika girls" (inspired by some material left behind in the recording studio by previous users). also, anya phillips (ill fated multi cultural domme -part of new york 70's no-wave scene -max's cbgbs etc) often dressed up in such garb. simply do a websearch. mind you some of it could be quite sick -if not just just silly.

 

[bridgeburner]

There was quite a little burst of Nazi sexploitation flicks in the 70's --- Ilsa: She Wolf of the SS has been mentioned, but Salon Kitty is something of a cult fave, and there are lots of titles like SS Camp #5: Hell for women and Nazi Love Camp #27 (this is the Salon Kitty story essentially but despite being lower budget it's a much better film). The Italians loved these things and they're notable mostly for bad acting, worse dubbing, gruesome if badly executed "medical experimentation" scenes, lesbian rape, multi-inmate mass shower scenes (just water, not poison gass with one notable exception) and forced prostitution. The Nazi fetish was quickly replaced by the Cannibal fetish and we got such gems as Cannibal Holocaust, Cannibal Ferox, The Last Cannibal World and Eaten Allive. Cannibals were fairly short-lived as well and we moved onto or back into the giallo films which generally revolved around street punks, cops and alternately serial killers or white slavery rings.

If you've got any interest in these cult films of the 60's and 70's a good source for them is www.cinefear.com. The site has some interesting commentary as well.


-B

 

[trodas]

Hmmm, so much for nothing

I would quess that the Nazi word is there used just to make things "very ugly" for the normal person. In included example I did not find anything ugly at all - except the damn censoring, but that it is

 

[shayne_mayhem]

Unfortunately....my interest is only in the male Nazis being forced into submission, not any combo of female Nazis or Nazis in dominant roles. You'd think someone would have come up with this concept, being as how the Nazis sucked ass. I guess I'll just have to draw my own pictures then......sigh.......

 

[Ms_Toy]

Laughed myself to tears when I read this.

Actually, the third reich practically invented propaganda porn. In some instances they even dropped a variety of fliers (instead of bombs), including and especially pornography, aimed at demoralizing Allied troops.


Wish to god I had some examples to link, but I'm not much of a web crawler.

To be honest, when I saw the title of this thread, I assumed that was the topic.

Surely someone else around here knows what I'm takling about, and can link us some examples.

My great uncle was an officer in World War II, though I don't remember what branch of service. In anycase, he kept a bizzare variety of weird souveneirs, from belt buckles to scraps of schapnel that had just missed him. My first exposure to Nazi Porn was stumbling across a bit of it in his collection... I must have been in High school, but in anycase, I was not particularly impressed, and didn't quite understand what it was (I knew it was porn with swastikas, I didn't understand the propaganda warfare part)

It was not till sometime later that I saw a piece on the History channel about it that it made sense to me.

Ask and someone will find it. I did!

http://www.psywarrior.com/sexandprop.html

 

[rosco rathbone]

This is totally sick, but this morning I was reading Hannah Arendt's Eichmann In Jerusalem: A Report On The Banality Of Evil and I got to fantasizing about what it would be like to have the power of life & death. Words like "Reynard Heidrich", "Einsatzgruppen ", "R.S.H.A." and "Obersturmmbanfuhrer " were like sharp fingernails delicately tracing a line up my spine. There's something deeply erotic about that which lies just under the surface of our carefully manicured veneer of rationality and which is just as prevalent now in the 21st century as it was 60 years ago; witness the Sudan and Kosovo just for starters.

 

[shayne_mayhem]

Words like "Reynard Heidrich", "Einsatzgruppen ", "R.S.H.A." and "Obersturmmbanfuhrer " were like sharp fingernails delicately tracing a line up my spine. There's something deeply erotic about that which lies just under the surface of our carefully manicured veneer of rationality and which is just as prevalent now in the 21st century as it was 60 years ago; witness the Sudan and Kosovo just for starters.

I dunno....my favorite thing about Reinhardt Heydrich still remains the fact that he got his stupid Nazi ass shot off by a couple of the most courageous officers in history. For some reason, the eroticism of that kind of power isn't there for me. Those thoughts and images stir up nothing but blind rage.

However, I do like the idea of power play (of course) and of role reversal. To bring something so arrogant and stupid and corrupt and utterly wrong to its knees (either figuratively or literally...); now <i>that</i> is what gets me going. I'm still not sure what the psychological implications of this are. It could be that I hate Nazis so much because it could so easily have been me, in those days, in that situation. I always hope that's not the case, but it's impossible to know.

Therefore, I eroticize it in a different way, which is the subjugation of evil, the "taming" of the murderer.
Maybe it stems from wanting to rid the world of such an evil, but without mass murder, like the Nazis themselves did.
I'm sure any psychotherapist would have a real heyday with this.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Yes, the flipside of Nazi eroticism could be something like "knight in shining armor" syndrome---the eroticism of violence for a good cause--aka every Bruce Willis/Sly Stallone flick ever made. I just have too much dark in me to get much of a thrill out of that.

 

[evesdream]

There was quite a little burst of Nazi sexploitation flicks in the 70's....

Really? Maybe that explains The Night Porter. It's about an accidental meeting years later of a former Nazi and the former prisoner he tortured and raped, and their love affair. It was too psychological and filmy to be porn but it was also sexy and sad and full of brief power struggles and romantic tension ... if you're into that kind of thing. The version I saw seemed heavily edited, but I knew why they couldn't keep their hands off of each other.

 

[bridgeburner]

Yes, the flipside of Nazi eroticism could be something like "knight in shining armor" syndrome---the eroticism of violence for a good cause--aka every Bruce Willis/Sly Stallone flick ever made. I just have too much dark in me to get much of a thrill out of that.

That's because the good-guys always make-lurrrrve to the heroine rather than ripping her clothes off and bending her over the nearest table.


-B

 

[bridgeburner]

Really? Maybe that explains The Night Porter. It's about an accidental meeting years later of a former Nazi and the former prisoner he tortured and raped, and their love affair. It was too psychological and filmy to be porn but it was also sexy and sad and full of brief power struggles and romantic tension ... if you're into that kind of thing. The version I saw seemed heavily edited, but I knew why they couldn't keep their hands off of each other.

Yes, The Night Porter was of the same era and while certainly of a higher caliber than many other films, it was still born of the Italian fascination with the sexual power and perversity of the Nazis. I saw what was probably a highly edited version of the film and have to say the idea was interesting but the execution was lacking. The choices the people make just seem so stupid -- and I never bought most of the urgency that compelled the stupid choices. I don't know if that's a fault of the original film or a fault of the editing in the version I saw.

-B