NASA confirms: America is goin' retro!

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Awesome - we're officially back to capsules.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/US/05/24/nasa.new.spacecraft/t1larg.new.spacecraft.lockheed.nasa.jpg

Miami (CNN) -- NASA plans a return to yesteryear by developing a space capsule that will carry humans into deep space, it announced Tuesday.

"We are committed to human exploration beyond low-Earth orbit and look forward to developing the next generation of systems to take us there," NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said.

The new spacecraft, to be built by Lockheed Martin, will be known as the Multi-Purpose Crew Vehicle, or MPCV. It will carry four astronauts and be based on designs originally planned for NASA's Orion Crew Exploration Vehicle, whose development was canceled by President Barack Obama.

NASA says astronauts would not fly onboard until at least 2016. NASA has not flown astronauts beyond low-Earth orbit since the Apollo program, in the 1970s.

"We hope to have test flights in this decade. We're not sure when but certainly as early as possible," said Douglas Cooke, NASA's associate administrator for exploration systems mission.

Like the Apollo spacecraft, which landed 12 men on the moon, the MPCV will splash down in the Pacific Ocean upon return to Earth. However, the new craft will be the 21st-century version: Much larger and 10 times safer to launch and land than the space shuttle, NASA says.

"We would have an abort system, all the way from sitting on the pad, to flying up, up and away. The space shuttle has never had that capability," Cooke said.

This new spacecraft is NASA's first step forward in its next great leap, as the U.S. space shuttle program heads into retirement.

Officials say this vehicle will be able to go to the moon or do a deep space mission to Mars. Any deep space mission would be accompanied by a larger compartment for the crew, Cooke said.

The MPCV is currently at Lockheed Martin's facility in Denver, undergoing testing.

NASA is hoping to start flying as soon as possible to close the gap in the U.S. manned space program. With the retirement of the space shuttle, expected in July, the U.S. will have to pay the Russian space agency to take astronauts back and forth from the station until the MPCV is ready.

NASA is also hoping that private, commercial companies will soon be able to fly astronauts to the space station in newly developed vehicles.

The original Orion spacecraft was part of NASA's Constellation program to take man back to the moon, and later, to Mars. That program was canceled.

In 2010, it was resurrected, and downsized to be used as a "lifeboat," in the event of an emergency on the space station. Five billion dollars have already been spent on Orion -- another reason to keep the design.

NASA has not yet developed a rocket powerful enough to propel this spacecraft out of Earth's atmosphere.

"As we aggressively continue our work on a heavy-lift-launch vehicle, we are moving forward with an existing contract to keep development of our new crew vehicle on track," Bolden said.

Obama has committed $3 billion for NASA to develop the heavy-lift-launch vehicle.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/24/nasa.new.spacecraft/index.html?hpt=C1
 
What fuckin retards O'bama and Charlie are.
We had something perfectly good under President Bush and Mike Griffin and this nut cancels it only to restart part of the program to call it his own.
 
What fuckin retards O'bama and Charlie are.
We had something perfectly good under President Bush and Mike Griffin and this nut cancels it only to restart part of the program to call it his own.

If you designed a rocket that could run on whining, we could get to Mars. :cool:
 
WTF? They had space cities floating over the U.S. in the latest Star Trek and we're messing around with capsules.
Good God, get with Hollywood and buy their technology.
 
Officials say this vehicle will be able to go to the moon or do a deep space mission to Mars. Any deep space mission would be accompanied by a larger compartment for the crew, Cooke said.

What a colossal waste of time and money. By NASA's own admission, any deep space mission to Mars would require a larger "crew compartment," which pretty much makes that piece of hardware the real manned spacecraft for such a mission. Not to mention the vehicle that would descend to the Martian surface.

The Apollo-like vehicle shown here would neither land on Mars nor the moon. It is little more than it was during Apollo. A re-entry vehicle for a water landing on earth.

And while we are on the subject of "deep space" missions, it would be appropriate to speculate where else we might go other than Mars.

The answer is nowhere, with the possible exception of a nearby comet or asteroid. Every single planet or moon in our solar system (other than Mars) is either much too far away or presents other obstacles (i.e. heat and atmospheric pressure) that preclude human exploration.

"Deep space" my ass.
 
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"Deep space" my ass.


I read an article in Discover mag a year or two ago, where they talked about a trip to Alpha Centauri (4 light years). They claimed it would take 7 years to reach ½ the speed of light, and 14 years to reach AC (one of it's planets).
 
What a colossal waste of time and money. By NASA's own admission, any deep space mission to Mars would require a larger "crew compartment," which pretty much makes that piece of hardware the real manned spacecraft for such a mission. Not to mention the vehicle that would descend to the Martian surface.

The Apollo-like vehicle shown here would neither land on Mars nor the moon. It is little more than it was during Apollo. A re-entry vehicle for a water landing on earth.

And while we are on the subject of "deep space" missions, it would be appropriate to speculate where else we might go other than Mars.

The answer is nowhere, with the possible exception of a nearby comet or asteroid. Every single planet or moon in our solar system (other than Mars) is either much too far away or presents other obstacles (i.e. heat and atmospheric pressure) that preclude human exploration.

"Deep space" my ass.

I'll just quote you on this; most of this crap is just that and the probability of getting to Mars is very low; and what are we after anyway?
Now I am an engineer, granted an EE and not propulsion but I know the numbers.

"Deep Space" my ass too.
 
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I read an article in Discover mag a year or two ago, where they talked about a trip to Alpha Centauri (4 light years). They claimed it would take 7 years to reach ½ the speed of light, and 14 years to reach AC (one of it's planets).

And presumably another 21 years to come home? Whenever NASA gets around to flying such a mission, this is what the new group of astronaut trainees for that mission will, in all probability, look like.

http://i.pbase.com/g6/30/756430/2/75539957.3unQgXqT.jpg
 
:eek: I can't open your link.


But yes, 21 years sounds about right, considering they must hit the brakes and swing a Uey.

Images on? You're missing an absolutely darling color photo of what I'm guessing is the 4th grade class at "Anyschool USA." Seven to 10 years of training and they're ready to fly. Guess they'll have to postpone college until they get back.
 
Images on? You're missing an absolutely darling color photo of what I'm guessing is the 4th grade class at "Anyschool USA." Seven to 10 years of training and they're ready to fly. Guess they'll have to postpone college until they get back.

Yup.

Anyschool USA, huh.

Is that the school where they teach kindergartners about homosexuals...........;)
 
Yup.

Anyschool USA, huh.

Is that the school where they teach kindergartners about homosexuals...........;)

I don't know about the curriculum, but if people can't see the photo (which I've linked via the normal "Insert Image" tool; shows up fine for me) then they're missing a very graphic presentation of why long-duration manned space flight is a singularly stupid idea.
 
Awesome - we're officially back to capsules.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/US/05/24/nasa.new.spacecraft/t1larg.new.spacecraft.lockheed.nasa.jpg

Miami (CNN) -- NASA plans a return to yesteryear by developing a space capsule that will carry humans into deep space, it announced Tuesday.

"We are committed to human exploration beyond low-Earth orbit and look forward to developing the next generation of systems to take us there," NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said.

The new spacecraft, to be built by Lockheed Martin, will be known as the Multi-Purpose Crew Vehicle, or MPCV. It will carry four astronauts and be based on designs originally planned for NASA's Orion Crew Exploration Vehicle, whose development was canceled by President Barack Obama.

NASA says astronauts would not fly onboard until at least 2016. NASA has not flown astronauts beyond low-Earth orbit since the Apollo program, in the 1970s.

"We hope to have test flights in this decade. We're not sure when but certainly as early as possible," said Douglas Cooke, NASA's associate administrator for exploration systems mission.

Like the Apollo spacecraft, which landed 12 men on the moon, the MPCV will splash down in the Pacific Ocean upon return to Earth. However, the new craft will be the 21st-century version: Much larger and 10 times safer to launch and land than the space shuttle, NASA says.

"We would have an abort system, all the way from sitting on the pad, to flying up, up and away. The space shuttle has never had that capability," Cooke said.

This new spacecraft is NASA's first step forward in its next great leap, as the U.S. space shuttle program heads into retirement.

Officials say this vehicle will be able to go to the moon or do a deep space mission to Mars. Any deep space mission would be accompanied by a larger compartment for the crew, Cooke said.

The MPCV is currently at Lockheed Martin's facility in Denver, undergoing testing.

NASA is hoping to start flying as soon as possible to close the gap in the U.S. manned space program. With the retirement of the space shuttle, expected in July, the U.S. will have to pay the Russian space agency to take astronauts back and forth from the station until the MPCV is ready.

NASA is also hoping that private, commercial companies will soon be able to fly astronauts to the space station in newly developed vehicles.

The original Orion spacecraft was part of NASA's Constellation program to take man back to the moon, and later, to Mars. That program was canceled.

In 2010, it was resurrected, and downsized to be used as a "lifeboat," in the event of an emergency on the space station. Five billion dollars have already been spent on Orion -- another reason to keep the design.

NASA has not yet developed a rocket powerful enough to propel this spacecraft out of Earth's atmosphere.

"As we aggressively continue our work on a heavy-lift-launch vehicle, we are moving forward with an existing contract to keep development of our new crew vehicle on track," Bolden said.

Obama has committed $3 billion for NASA to develop the heavy-lift-launch vehicle.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/24/nasa.new.spacecraft/index.html?hpt=C1

Human beings have NO business being in space. I'm sure that several advanced alien civilizations have made sure to it that we never leave our solar system or colonize other planets and corrupt other worlds with our greed, self-importance, war, and barbarism.

I'm sure that ET views humanity as an ant colony.
 
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