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[unusuallyconfused]

I happened to come across a story about thousands of young homeless black children, mostly female, put into a porn ring. They were being taken advantage of by some black "pimps" who would determine if the kids were homeless or were not taken care of at home. They would then kidnap and enslave these children. Apparently this is becoming epidemic and truly is a horrid life for these children. This needs immediate attention, the black children are being "racially targeted and profiled" by these evil people. Where is the NAACP? Where is Jesse Jackson? Why are they not concerning themselves with this? Shouldn't they?

Unfortunately, I might not be able to reply much today, but I thought this was "quite the contradiction" by the NAACP. This is the type of behavior that does not speak well for them.

 

[Cheyenne]

Is the story online? Can you post a link to it?

 

[lavender]

 

[WriterDom]

Or they could focus on the fact that 60% of black 4th graders can't read.

 

[Cheyenne]

Good Morning, Lavy! I'd like to answer, too, but it is hard to answer something that is just paraphrased. Too easy to misinterpret an article when you have the whole thing in front of you, much less by doing it on heresay only.

 

[lavender]

 

[*Eve*]

I would be interested in getting link for that story. I'm surprised not surprised if we haven't heard of it before though, because even though the NAACP has done a lot of good for people they are a politically motivated group and backing a cause such as this is not politically sound.

 

[WriterDom]

I would be interested in getting link for that story. I'm surprised not surprised if we haven't heard of it before though, because even though the NAACP has done a lot of good for people they are a politically motivated group and backing a cause such as this is not politically sound.

She didn't say they were backing it, just that they were silent. I know there were preteens in a sex ring in Atlanta that forced a new law to make underage pimping a felony. I'll see if I can find something.

 

[WriterDom]

Dirty business
Feds tackle job local lawmen won't touch

BY TINA TRENT

What took them so long?

When the U.S. Attorney's Office busted up a child prostitution ring late last month, they were doing work Paul Howard and other city officials should have prioritized long ago. Why is it that kidnapping, drugging, raping and torturing young girls doesn't seem to catch the attention of our city's leaders?

Maybe it's because Atlanta politicians and business leaders have long made their bed with the sex industry, legalizing large portions of it for the benefit of tourism. Public funds channeled through the Atlanta Convention and Visitor's Bureau are used to promote titty bars. And nude clubs like the Cheetah enjoy most-favored-nation status with city regulators.

Those ain't Bibles thumping behind closed doors in Atlanta's power corridors.

Little wonder that Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard dragged his feet when confronted with evidence that certain clubs were employing underage girls to strip. First he equivocated, then he suggested "grassroots activism" instead of intervention by his office.

According to the juvenile court judges who demanded legal action against child pimps, the one thing Howard didn't want to do was create any impression that he might be "harassing" sex club owners. God knows they're a sensitive bunch.

It appears that nobody wants to drop a dime on the goose laying this golden egg: not city officials and certainly not the legislators who burn a path between the Gold Dome and Hooters, that pathetic "kiddy titty" bar complete with high chairs for the tots.

There was a time when Bill Campbell seemed marginally committed to fighting Atlanta's strip clubs. But he's been pretty quiet on the subject since the feds began looking him over, too, and his decision to hire Gold Club attorney Steve Sadow for his own legal counsel doesn't telegraph any hope for a crackdown in the near future.

It isn't too much to ask that city leaders at least pretend that preventing the pimping of minors tops somebody's to-do list. Howard has said there should be stricter enforcement of existing laws governing strip clubs. Well, who ever stopped him from doing just that?

Maybe the businessmen who control Atlanta's tourism and convention industry.

Howard's hesitation to come down hard on strip clubs certainly benefits Atlanta's powerful convention industry. It's been said before, but it's worth saying again: We don't have a convention trade because of our fabulous waterfront, folks. We have one because conventioneers can catch a cab to see Suzy Smyrna shake her coke-addled brains out over the rim of a $10 bottle of Bud.

The Atlanta Convention and Visitor's Bureau vehemently denies promoting the sex industry, but ads for clubs appear on their official website and half-dressed women "spit polish" men's shoes in the taxpayer-funded Congress Center. ACVB spokesman Bill Howard (no relation to Paul Howard) says that the money for the website that promotes adult entertainment comes from the private, nonprofit branch of the ACVB while public monies pay for other expenses, so taxpayers shouldn't feel that their money is being used to sell women. "It's on a totally different accounting system," he explains.

Yeah, whatever. I used to work for a pizza place that kept its books that way.

Stripping is a nasty, exploitative business. It should not be publicly subsidized, even if that subsidy goes for the pot Bill Howard pisses in while a "privately funded" computer down the hall generates the website where visitors can find out where to go for some Hot Nude Action.

Bill Howard admits that the ACVB might be forced to stop promoting strip clubs online if provisions were attached to funding the agency receives from the state budget, but he chuckles at the notion that state legislators would ever do that. Any takers, ladies of the House?

And speaking of dirty business, there's that dicey issue of sexual slavery.

Law enforcement and refugee workers have long known that some women working in Atlanta's "Asian Massage Parlors" are immigrants coerced into becoming sex workers by the people who brought them to America.

Here in Atlanta, the cradle of the civil rights movement, nobody even knows how many terrified women and girls are being forced to turn tricks in massage parlors (no, Virginia, guys don't go to those places because their backs are stiff). The CIA estimates that 50,000 young and underage women are brought into the U.S. for such purposes each year.

Yet massage parlors operate in Atlanta with impunity. The DA isn't investigating them. The mayor isn't condemning them. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution publishes advertising from some two dozen parlors in their sports pages with nary a peep from their editorialists. Creative Loafing does the same. Shame on us all.

Whether it be massage parlors or pimping rings, none of us should feel complacent about the fact that women and girls are living in our city under conditions the State Department calls "involuntary servitude" and "sexual slavery." Yet somehow, we do. Like the gray-faced townspeople in a gritty noir story, we turn our heads and pretend it isn't happening.

http://atlanta.creativeloafing.com/2001-02-10/rant.html

 

[Cheyenne]

That doesn't sound like the same subject as the subject of this thread. I've read about women being imported before to work as "sex slaves." That isn't the same as saying black pimps are taking thousands of black children right off the street and no one notices the kids are gone and are working in prostitution.

 

[WriterDom]

http://www.accessatlanta.com/partners/ajc/reports/prostitutes/main0126.html

Hearings today for eight
in pimping case

By Ron Martz
Atlanta Journal-Constitution Staff Writer

If federal prosecutors hope to dismantle an alleged ring of Atlanta pimps that preyed on underage girls, they first must prove that the ring, however loosely structured, actually existed, say former prosecutors and defense attorneys.

UNDER INDICTMENT
Charles Floyd Pipkins, 55, aka "Sir Charles." Used four underage girls who were 10, 11, 15 and 16 as prostitutes. Along with two other pimps, he made a video titled "Really Really Pimpin' in Da South," used as a training tool to explain the rules of the sex trade to new juvenile prostitutes.

Andrew Moore Jr., 37, aka "Batman." Used girls who were 12, 13, 14 and 15 as prostitutes. Tied a girl to a bed and shot at her after she tried to escape. Kidnapped another girl and tied her to a chair in a closet.

Linda Moore worked with her husband, Andrew Moore Jr., to use girls as young as 12 as prostitutes.

Michael Davis, aka "Hollywood." Sold an underage girl to Andrew Moore Jr. Provided crack cocaine and marijuana to several underage girls. Beat and burned girls who "cuffed," or kept money, instead of giving it all to him.

Herman Gordon Hutson Jr., 32, aka "Pimp Redd." Showed training videos made by pimps to several underage girls. Sold an underage girl to another pimp in Las Vegas. Disciplined prostitutes by hitting them with an iron bat and burning them with a hot clothes hanger.

Terrance Ramsey, 23, aka "Playboy." Solicited underage girls to go with him to New York City for prostitution. Gave girls wigs, clothing and marijuana. Shot at Dominic Terry in a feud over a prostitute.

Dominic Terry, 22, aka "D." Gave marijuana and powder cocaine to underage girls. Accused of shooting and killing a customer of one of his prostitutes.

Bryant Weaver Bell, 29, aka "Worm." Beat underage girls. Picked up underage prostitutes after their release from the Fulton County Youth Detention Center.

Terrence Anderson, aka "Lance House" and "Scooby." Bought a girl from Pipkins. Transported underage girls from Tennessee to Atlanta.

Dwayne Comer, aka "Julio." Handed out condoms from the trunk of his car to pimps and underage girls working as prostitutes.

Deunbray Rucker, 27, aka "Poochie." Used a telephone chat line to recruit underage girls to work for him as prostitutes. Had sex with an underage girl to evaluate her ability to be a prostitute. Picked up girls at a middle school, had them change their clothes in a fast food restaurant and took them to various locations to prostitute.

Eugene Burson Jr., aka "Great Gene." Took a prostitute away from Andrew Moore Jr. Took an underage girl from Atlanta to Florida to work as a prostitute. Gave girls marijuana.

Camari Burrough, aka "KK." Picked up a child prostitute at the Lindbergh MARTA train station. Also beat underage girls who worked as prostitutes for him.

A 14th defendant was identified in the indictment only as John Doe No. 1, aka "Black."
Source: federal indictment
-- Research by staff writer Joshua B. Good

That long and intricate process begins today when prosecutors are expected to introduce some of the evidence in their federal racketeering case against 14 alleged pimps during bond hearings for eight of them before U.S. Magistrate Janet King.

The 13 men and one woman were charged Wednesday in a sweeping 226-count indictment that alleges that the girls they recruited into prostitution, some as young as 10, were gang-raped, beaten, burned and drugged to make them comply.

Details of the alleged conspiracy are spelled out in a 42-page indictment that claims that the 14 suspects recruited the girls, then coerced them into becoming prostitutes, sold them to other pimps and transported them across state lines to work as prostitutes.

The U.S. Attorney's Office in Atlanta brought the charges under the federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, known as RICO, which provides stiffer penalties than state laws for those convicted.

Kent Alexander, a former U.S. attorney for North Georgia, said prosecutors have a few more hurdles to clear with a RICO case than they would with an ordinary criminal case.

"You have to prove the existence of a group, a criminal enterprise, and that its purpose was to commit crimes," Alexander, now general counsel for Emory University, said Thursday.

Defense lawyer Jerry Froelich, a former federal prosecutor, said that even though proving the existence of an enterprise is technically a bit more difficult, a RICO case "allows a lot of hearsay [evidence] in."

The law, he said, "is a tool the government uses to get jurisdiction because it allows them to prosecute certain state crimes in federal court."

Federal officials say, if convicted, the alleged pimps face more than 20 years in prison.

Pimping is a misdemeanor under Georgia law, but several bills introduced in the Georgia Legislature would make pimping a felony.

"A lot of times state and local authorities like to get the federal government involved in these cases because it gets people off the street for a longer time," said Alexander.

RICO, said Alexander, "casts a broad net so nobody can get out on a technicality."

RICO cases also enable the government to freeze and seize assets, including cash, it believes was obtained as a result of the criminal enterprise.

Those convicted of a RICO violation can also be forced to forfeit assets.

And, according to Froelich, "the law now says that if the government says it can't find an asset, it can take a substitute asset."

That means, Froelich explained, that if the government can show that someone who has been convicted under the RICO statute made a certain amount of money, such as $200,000, but cannot now find that money, it can seize substitute assets of that individual that were legally obtained.

According to the indictment, forfeitable assets of the alleged ring include at least $14 million in cash and a number of luxury cars, including two Excaliburs, a Rolls-Royce, a Bentley, a Jaguar and a Mercedes.

Some of the automobiles have already been seized, said Assistant U.S. Attorney Janis Gordon, who will prosecute the case.

But as for the $14 million, "We don't have a detailed accounting of that yet," she said.

 

[Todd]

This needs immediate attention, the black children are being "racially targeted and profiled" by these evil people. Where is the NAACP? Where is Jesse Jackson? Why are they not concerning themselves with this? Shouldn't they?

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The Reason NAACP and Jesse Jackson are not bothering with this issue is:

1. They are **** ******* ******** and they pick thier targets only when it can work to thier advantage.

2. Also being **** ******* ******** this target is one that republicans didn't directly cause so they can't use it to undermind the republicans.

3. Being **** ******* ******** they know that underage kids do not qualify for the vote so they have to focus their efforts on getting votes for thier ********** party of choice, they do that by ignoring the needs of the many{the children in this case} for the needs of the few{ the **** ******** in this case}.

Its simply all a power game.

 

[Problem Child]

I feel really sad for the young girl's in writerDom's last story.

It's far too easy to take out the word prostitute and insert the word slave, and have the meaning of the story remain exactly the same.

(no BDSM jokes please).

 

[Guest]

Well, I have a few minutes and see that Writer Dom filled in for me as to the actual articles that I was referring to. (thanks, WD) SO, my question still stands, if the NAACP stands for the advancement of their race, isn't this an issue for them?

 

[unusuallyconfused]

that was me above.

 

[Blackbich]

I happened to come across a story about thousands of young homeless black children, mostly female, put into a porn ring. They were being taken advantage of by some black "pimps" who would determine if the kids were homeless or were not taken care of at home. They would then kidnap and enslave these children. Apparently this is becoming epidemic and truly is a horrid life for these children. This needs immediate attention, the black children are being "racially targeted and profiled" by these evil people. Where is the NAACP? Where is Jesse Jackson? Why are they not concerning themselves with this? Shouldn't they?

Unfortunately, I might not be able to reply much today, but I thought this was "quite the contradiction" by the NAACP. This is the type of behavior that does not speak well for them.

I agree with Cheyenne, lavendar and Eve on this one. I'd like a link to the story. I'm still waiting to get the full story on this, unless it's the story that Writer Dom posted. I don't see any references to race in that one. How do we know it's black men attacking black children as stated by unusuallyconfused. Since I don't live in the area and haven't seen anything on it, have they been put it on the news? Have you seen them? Only reason I ask is because race has been brought up but the article doesn't say anything about it.

I'll still answer this for you based on the above information because the answer would be the same regardless of the race of the perpertrators/victims and the organization 'not involved.' The NAACP hasn't done anything for the same reason no other political organization is willing/going to do anything. As Eve said, it's not in their so called political interest to get involved. Children are still the one minority in this country that have no rights.

What about the law enforcement agencies in that area? Why did it take so long for them to get involved? Because the government doesn't give a damn about children's welfare. We have organizations that are supposed to be there to help but they usually do more harm than good. Too much money is made from the sex industry for much to be done. After all, what's some woman/kid getting beat when this is brings thousands/millions of dollars to our community.

Despite the way this thread was started, I don't see it as just an NAACP problem, it's an everyone problem. That could be your child out there just as easily as it could be mine or anyone else's on this board. Government agencies have recently started cracking down on abuse of women. I figure by the time my children are in their 50's, they may apply the same rules to children. Personally, if I ever learned someone had hurt my child, he/she wouldn't be around to hurt anyone else's. It would be worth going to prison for.

Bottom line, when some politician's daughter is kidnapped and forced to sell her body for money is when something will finally be done to combat this problem.

Originally posted by Todd
2. Also being **** ******* ******** this target is one that republicans didn't directly cause so they can't use it to undermind the republicans.

Todd, I usually don't comment when you go off on one of your tangents but this is the most assinine thing I've ever head. If this had come up when the Democrats were in office, it would be the same thing. It's not an issue that's going to gain anyone any 'brownie' points, hence the reason it's not being addressed. Being the direct cause doesn't have anything to do with it. I don't get your point.

Originally posted by Problem Child
I feel really sad for the young girl's in writerDom's last story.

It's far too easy to take out the word prostitute and insert the word slave, and have the meaning of the story remain exactly the same.

(no BDSM jokes please).

Ditto.

 

[Mr. Bootie]

You are absolutely RIGHT!!!

Yes, It is an issue in which the NAACP should get involved. However, as one of the readers suggested, the NAACP is not the same. Where they once fought tooth and nail over issues, they don't anymore. Everyone is trying to be so damn politically correct that they are afraid to make a stand for anything. If the NAACP were to get involved, then to their other peers, thay might seem like a radical group. They may appear to be returning to the Black Panthers movement. That would scare away everyone and they would not only loose their status, but financial backing as well. They will not allow that to happen. It is a financial call, not a moral one. If other groups would get involved (i.e. Democrats, Republicans, Green Party, American Red Cross, UNICEF, or other heavy hitters...) Then watch NAACP get on the bandwagon. However, they should have been on the front lines the whole time.

It is a shame and tragedy as to what happened to those girls. How could anyone even THINK to treat kids this way. I don't understand.

As for Jesse Jackson, he has to get HIS life in order before anyone is going to listen to what he has to say.

 

[Blackbich]

Re: You are absolutely RIGHT!!!

Yes, It is an issue in which the NAACP should get involved. However, as one of the readers suggested, the NAACP is not the same. Where they once fought tooth and nail over issues, they don't anymore. Everyone is trying to be so damn politically correct that they are afraid to make a stand for anything. If the NAACP were to get involved, then to their other peers, thay might seem like a radical group. They may appear to be returning to the Black Panthers movement. That would scare away everyone and they would not only loose their status, but financial backing as well. They will not allow that to happen. It is a financial call, not a moral one. If other groups would get involved (i.e. Democrats, Republicans, Green Party, American Red Cross, UNICEF, or other heavy hitters...) Then watch NAACP get on the bandwagon. However, they should have been on the front lines the whole time.

It is a shame and tragedy as to what happened to those girls. How could anyone even THINK to treat kids this way. I don't understand.

As for Jesse Jackson, he has to get HIS life in order before anyone is going to listen to what he has to say.

Thank you for a point very well made. This is another point I intended to bring up. My brain got fried and I lost my train of thought, which I tend to do on LONG posts .

 

[Mr. Bootie]

Thank you blackbich

Thank You Blackbich,

Can I be on your "fuck" list now. I've been reading your jokes, and I have been commenting on them. You haven't responded. The more I read about you , the more I am intrigued. No... you are not a "bitch". I know that I'm fairly new to this, but here's to another friend.

Have A Good One,

kgboot

 

[Samuari]

There was something reciently on fox news about this, with interviews from several local Atlanta comunity leaders, one of which said that he had contacted both the NAACP and The Southern Christian Leadership Council. Both organizations told him that since this was Afro-Americans abusing Afro-Americans that it wasn't a racist issue, and they declined to get involved.

The abuse of our most helpless citzens, children without adults to care for them is something that tears at the very fabric of our society. I for one, am glad to see that the Feds are moving into this problem, while I am sadened that the local law enforcement officals are not leading the way.

 

[Andra_Jenny]

Hey Todd

Aren't most urban areas controlled by the **** ******* *******, and the NAAAAP is thier lapdog. RIGHT? I mean they are no friends to the current administration. RIGHT?

 

[rambling man]

The thing about high-class strip clubs is that they attract "high-class" people who might do some low-class things with some girls beneath the age of consent. If they go busting up the racket, they might have themselves exposed in front of a community , Atlanta, which does tend to thump a Bible every so often whether black or white.

I think the NAACP should get into real problems and not those which offer the most political exposure. Send Jesse Jackson to the Sudan where black Christians are enslaved and traded more brutally than the South ever imagined in William Lloyd Garrison's worst nightmares.

 

[Guest]

After a little research, I found out that it was on the O'Reily Factor for 7-2-01. On the same show was segment on the changing of the guard in the civel rights movement. where once The NAACP, the SCLC, and La Raza fought for issues, and the improvment of the community, they are now politicaly driven, and do not touch issues that will harm political allies.

This hypocrasy is is fueling the creation of new organizations within the minority comunities, and especally Minority Church groups that are becoming enthusastic supporters of Bush's "faith based" programs. The trend is causing large segments of the"traditional" civel rights establishment to reexmine thier actions.

 

[Samuari]

After a little research, I found out that it was on the O'Reily Factor for 7-2-01. On the same show was segment on the changing of the guard in the civel rights movement. where once The NAACP, the SCLC, and La Raza fought for issues, and the improvment of the community, they are now politicaly driven, and do not touch issues that will harm political allies.

This hypocrasy is is fueling the creation of new organizations within the minority comunities, and especally Minority Church groups that are becoming enthusastic supporters of Bush's "faith based" programs. The trend is causing large segments of the"traditional" civel rights establishment to reexmine thier actions.

That was me. I'm going to get the habg of these new scripts somday, real soon.

 

[unusuallyconfused]

Yes! Very well said.