My dog is kinky

Xelebes

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Ok, so my dog is in heat so my neighbor has this poodle thingie (a daft oaf it may be) that wanders about and managed to squeeze into our backyard. My dog was trying to take a dump (I think) and my neighbor's dog kept trying to sniff her butt (you know, kinda like a swanky suitor saying hello) and my dog is getting bothered and so after a few seconds, my dog loses its patience and decides to sit on his face. The other dog runs away.

I think my dog is kinky.
 
Xelebes said:
Ok, so my dog is in heat so my neighbor has this poodle thingie (a daft oaf it may be) that wanders about and managed to squeeze into our backyard. My dog was trying to take a dump (I think) and my neighbor's dog kept trying to sniff her butt (you know, kinda like a swanky suitor saying hello) and my dog is getting bothered and so after a few seconds, my dog loses its patience and decides to sit on his face. The other dog runs away.

I think my dog is kinky.
Just when I think you can't get any wierder lol :p.....
 
Xelebes said:
Ok, so my dog is in heat so my neighbor has this poodle thingie (a daft oaf it may be) that wanders about and managed to squeeze into our backyard. My dog was trying to take a dump (I think) and my neighbor's dog kept trying to sniff her butt (you know, kinda like a swanky suitor saying hello) and my dog is getting bothered and so after a few seconds, my dog loses its patience and decides to sit on his face. The other dog runs away.

I think my dog is kinky.
Nothing unusual...... just the way of saying "I am not ready yet".
Some young bitches do that all the time, its hard to get them to accept males even when they naturally should.
 
Seduce said:
Nothing unusual...... just the way of saying "I am not ready yet".
Some young bitches do that all the time, its hard to get them to accept males even when they naturally should.


Facesitting is the new rejection queue, gals.

Yeah, ok. I guess that works too.
 
If she was mean she would bite him..... but to sit down was normal reaction to get him off her tail....... its only his misfortune she really sit on his face (or he was so eager he didnt notice she was going to sit down).
 
Xelebes said:
Ok, so my dog is in heat so my neighbor has this poodle thingie (a daft oaf it may be) that wanders about and managed to squeeze into our backyard. My dog was trying to take a dump (I think) and my neighbor's dog kept trying to sniff her butt (you know, kinda like a swanky suitor saying hello) and my dog is getting bothered and so after a few seconds, my dog loses its patience and decides to sit on his face. The other dog runs away.

I think my dog is kinky.


Has she been watching you too often??
:devil:
 
Dogs! Gotta luv em.

Watching the behavior of my dogs is interesting.
Its a real life study of their percieved positions in the household.
I have a very dominant jack russell dog and a passive rotti X bitch.
Face licking is a sign of submission in dogs, and I often see her doing it.
He also has a good shag after dinner every night,(he doesnt care which end he attacks either).
She just lies and takes it and after he has finished, she cleans him off afterwards like a good girl.(urk)
He wanders over and casually sits on her head if she's taking a nap.
I know its just reinforcement of their respective comfort zones, and try to turn a blind eye.
Sometimes it drives me nuts and I yell "stop being so goddamn submissive!" and "stop pushing her around you bully!"
Maybe a short scruffy boy pushing a big beautiful girl around offends me in some way. Maybe I am just jealous of her acceptance and freedom in being totally sub.
 
Is she still a puppy? *wonder why she isn't fixed...* Letting a dog go into heat is very hard on them you know, it's much healthier and happier for the dog to get them spayed, prefereably before their first heat.
 
shy slave said:
Has she been watching you too often??
:devil:

Woo! Shyslave! :D

Loved your story, Xelebes. Just wish you'd had the video camera out. This one would have been a hit on America's Funniest Home Videos - R-rated version (well, maybe PG, after all, they are doggies).
 
serijules said:
Is she still a puppy? *wonder why she isn't fixed...* Letting a dog go into heat is very hard on them you know, it's much healthier and happier for the dog to get them spayed, prefereably before their first heat.

Lots of dogs aren't fixed. Mine, for example.. but I show dogs, and fixed dogs can't be shown. ;)

However, it is healthier.. cuts down on cancers by something like 70%.. can't remember exactly, but it's a lot.

Not to mention not getting blood on your carpets is a good thing.

Our ACD bitch is in heat right now.. my two boys are very depressed that they're not allowed to romance her.
 
sunfox said:
Lots of dogs aren't fixed. Mine, for example.. but I show dogs, and fixed dogs can't be shown. ;)

Show dogs, pups under the age of 6 months, or health reasons are the only acceptable excuses for not having a dog fixed in my opinion. And don't even get me started on people that breed dogs that do not show them to championship and do health tests first. I have zero tolerance for it *shrugs*

I rescued a pair of Great Danes from some back yard breeder idiot who bred the female at under a year old to a male of an unacceptable colour, then decided it was "too much trouble" and sold them about a week before she was due. I ended up with a very underweight, too young female, an untrained 180 pound unfixed male, and 8 puppies (only 5 lived). It took almost a year to get mom back to health, and now mom, dad and all the puppies are fixed and in good homes. (mom and one pup are my babies now) Hobby breeding disgusts me.

Nothing against you Xelebes, I don't know your situation or why your dog isn't fixed or anything, nor is it my business, just saying as a general rule, I'm very much against leaving dogs intact.
 
sunfox said:
Not to mention not getting blood on your carpets is a good thing.

We got rid of our carpets before she ever went under her first heat session.
 
serijules said:
Nothing against you Xelebes, I don't know your situation or why your dog isn't fixed or anything, nor is it my business, just saying as a general rule, I'm very much against leaving dogs intact.

My parents were farmers. They never worried about said things with their dogs or cats.
 
Ok, I'm as a rule a big supporter of fixing your animals, but . . .\

Let's say that it got to where only professional breeders were allowed to breed their animals. Eventually the only animals out there would be pure breds. I don't know about you, but I can't afford and don't want purebred animals. The only purebred anything I've ever met were the stupidest animals alive. I think we're breeding the brains out of our animals.

I got a cat, who I was told could not get pregnant, due to a car accident. Yeah, right. But still I was responsible. I took care of her kittens, and when they were old enough I took them to the human society. Why the human society? Cause they do background checks on people before they let them take an animal. I do not want any of my cats to end up in a bad home. And now I'm going to get M&M fixed.

My point is that not all people who let their animals get preggo (although I didn't really, I was told she was sterile) are irresponsible. The problem is that you only hear about those who are.

On another point, it's nearly impossible to buy an unfixed ferret (because a ferret can litterally die of horniness :D). I often think that people should do that with cats and dogs.
 
landcruisergal said:
Watching the behavior of my dogs is interesting.
Its a real life study of their percieved positions in the household.
I have a very dominant jack russell dog and a passive rotti X bitch.
Face licking is a sign of submission in dogs, and I often see her doing it.
He also has a good shag after dinner every night,(he doesnt care which end he attacks either).
She just lies and takes it and after he has finished, she cleans him off afterwards like a good girl.(urk)
He wanders over and casually sits on her head if she's taking a nap.
I know its just reinforcement of their respective comfort zones, and try to turn a blind eye.
Sometimes it drives me nuts and I yell "stop being so goddamn submissive!" and "stop pushing her around you bully!"
Maybe a short scruffy boy pushing a big beautiful girl around offends me in some way. Maybe I am just jealous of her acceptance and freedom in being totally sub.

Both your story and Xelebes are hiliarous. Thanks you guys for sharing them! :D

I know what a rotti is but I couldn't imagine what the Jack Russell was so I googled them. Seeing what they looked like made your story even funnier, although I must admit they strike me as pretty dominant, aggressive dogs. I've attached some evidence of that below--and, since I recently saw "Gangs of New York," the last picture is the clincher, of course. ;)
 
Purebred dogs are needed for certain purposes.
You cannot go hunting with any dog.
You cannot expect any dog to watch over your sheep and fight with wolf packs.
You cannot expect i.e. terrier to save someone from drowning.

What I despise is when someone has Irish wolfhound in 2-rooms flat on the 15th floor, or tries to keep Tibetan mastiff as a house pet.
 
With some dogs, it's true that breeders are breeding the working ability/intelligence out of them.

I don't get dogs from those breeders.

My dogs come from working dog breeders, who also happen to show. I get beautiful dogs that have good minds, and are useful on a farm.

They're a bit expensive, but they're worth it to me. All in all, with four dogs, I guess I have somewhere over five thousand dollars sunk into just buying them... two of the dogs are most of that money.. the other two were $60 (rescued purebred) and $250 respectively. Training, showing, campaigning, stud fees... well, by the end of that, I guess I'm in it for probably 15K. But this is my job.. I train professionally, I show, etc.. so it's my life, not just a pet.

I don't care for mutts. I know what I'm getting with a purebred, and that appeals to me. I'm all for rescue, and I have no issue with mutts.. I just don't want one.

I'm not very militant about spaying and neutering, but I wish more people would do it. There are too many pets in the world without homes to risk accidental litters.

And on the subject of kink.. I think my retired male is a masochist.. because he doesn't mind the bitch chewing on him in a decidedly unfriendly way when he tries to sniff her. :D
 
graceanne said:
Let's say that it got to where only professional breeders were allowed to breed their animals. Eventually the only animals out there would be pure breds. I don't know about you, but I can't afford and don't want purebred animals. The only purebred anything I've ever met were the stupidest animals alive. I think we're breeding the brains out of our animals.

You are right...back yard breeders are breeding the brains out of their animals.

The trick is to truly be able to recognize what a professional ethical breeder IS. Very few pet owners can. They are not likely to produce "stupid" animals...their stock is proven working stock. They test for health, for temperament, for conformation. They socialize their puppies, require training and interacting from the owners, and will take that puppy back at any time in it's life should the owners not be able to care for it...it is required by contract, as is spaying/nuetering by a certain age for pet quality pups.

Ethical breeders make a lifelong commitment to the puppies they bring into the world. Finding an ethical breeder is expensive and requires patience...most have waiting lists as they don't even breed until every potential puppy from that breeding is spoken for. You can't buy an ethically bred puppy at a pet store, from a newspaper, or from a flyer at the grocery store. THOSE kinds of breeders are breeding the livlihood, health, temperament, looks and practicality out of purebred dogs....aka...back yard breeders. Most of them charge way way way more than the dog is worth, because most pet owners are stupid enough to pay it. Price is in no way an indication of the quality of a purebred dog.

By the time ethical breeders have spent the money they do on proving their stock through showing, doing health tests, feeding them quality food, and caring properly for the litter...they really don't make a heck of a lot of money on their effort. Back yard breeders do none or little of this, and the puppies are almost pure profit. You can buy an ethically bred pet-quality puppy from a good, solid breeder for less than you pay in most pet stores. (the show quality pups in a litter, which is usually only a small percent, will go to show homes only), and you will not only have a mentor for the life of raising that puppy, but you can feel pretty safe that your pup won't suffer from the most common health problems associated with that breed. The breeders test for generations to do everything in their power to prevent those things from happening, and when they do (as of course it WILL happen at some point), they will always be there to help you and do their best to make sure it doesn't happen in their line again by retiring the bitch and dog that created that puppy.

There will ALWAYS be mutts out there, just like there will always be irresponsible owners and strays and unwanted pets, etc etc. I just personally support ethical breeding because I know the results of unethical breeding and know what people are missing. The only dogs I will ever own come from either rescue or an ethical breeder. I've had some dang smart and healthy mutts in my life, so nothing against mutts, but being a dog groomer I see hundreds of horribly bred dogs every month and the health and temperament problems that are a direct result of back yard, hobby and petstore puppy mill breeding is hard to stomach because it is so preventable. Some countrys have strict breeding laws, and they also have some of the most healthy, sound, gorgeous, smart, hard working dogs in the world. That's saying something. The only dog I ever purchased and not rescued was from an ethical breeder overseas and it was the smartest, healthiest dog I've ever owned in my life. She died of old age at 16 years old, and never went to the vet in her life other than for shots. She was amazing. Most of her litter outlived her. She was well worth every cent my family paid for her, seeing what we saved in heartache and vet bills from health problems. *THAT* is the kind of breeding I support. The rest of my dogs were mutts rescued from pounds or that were dumped in our yard. They were all great and smart and no lesser of a dog than my purebred. But I wasn't supporting some selfish desires of a back yard breeder by getting them...just taking up some of the responsibility that some irresponsible owner out there neglected.

'nuff said, this is a hot topic for me, heh. To each their own, but that's my two cents.
 
Seduce said:
What I despise is when someone has Irish wolfhound in 2-rooms flat on the 15th floor, or tries to keep Tibetan mastiff as a house pet.

Heh... you must really despise me for my choice of pet then....


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Sam is the closest you can get to a Tibetan Mastiff without it being a Tibetan Mastiff... He's a 1 year old Great Pyrenees. He has to be walked and played with alot but he makes a wonderful house dog. And... He makes an even better therapy dog. He does wonders for the elderly. If I go to the nursing home without him I dont even get told hello, the first thing out of anyones mouth is "Where's Sam?" or "Where's the big white dog?"

There's nothing wrong with owning a big dog in a house or an apartment as long as you do your research and are willing to do what must be done to keep your pet healthy and happy.

Bottom line... The key to owning pets is responsibility.

I adopted Sam as an 8 week old, someone abandoned the litter and the humane society in a small town picked them up and brought them up to the Petco by myself. I was quite lucky to find him. He was not neutered but I went and did the responsible thing when the right time came along.

I had always wanted a Pyr because of their temperment but figured I would never get one. Now I can't imagine life without the breed. I have great plans for Sam and Pyr I own in the future as Therapy Dogs... It gives them purpose. In another year Sam will likely be registered with the Delta society or a local pet therapy group. But anyways.. enough of the rambling... the point is... There are breeds that are better at some things than others. From the pet therapists, vets, etc that I have spoken to they have all said that the Pyr is one of the best breeds hands down for working with sick people and for being around children because they can be trusted to be gentle and non-agressive. (those that are socialized, not ones that grew up with the sheep. You dont go near those because they WILL be aggressive, they have a job to do.)
 
TaintedB said:
Both your story and Xelebes are hiliarous. Thanks you guys for sharing them! :D

I know what a rotti is but I couldn't imagine what the Jack Russell was so I googled them. Seeing what they looked like made your story even funnier, although I must admit they strike me as pretty dominant, aggressive dogs. I've attached some evidence of that below--and, since I recently saw "Gangs of New York," the last picture is the clincher, of course. ;)

Rottwieller crossed with whatever got over the fence and into their "pure bred,no papers" bitch. Another revolting tale of people attempting to breed for profit.And a litter of mixed breeds that no one wanted.
I even heard of a pair of friends who bought 2 German Shepherd dogs from the same litter, put the dog over the bitch, on her first heat, cos they could get $300 each pup. Totally disgusting.Not to mention bad for the breed.
My Jack is from a reputable showdog breeder. Canine control council members, they have a return policy, and they rehome unwanted jacks cos they are notoriously naughty. I was interviewed before I was allowed to buy one.Grilled more like.
I despise puppy farmers. Those cute petshop pups that are usually impulse buys and then when they realise that a dog is work or no longer cute....
 
Dusty,

Sam is beautiful.. and most of the Pyrs I've known do fine with minimal exercise, like most flock guardian breeds. They don't move unless they have to.. which makes them economical large dogs to keep.. less food, less exercise.

However, they're far from the Tibetan Mastiff in personality, despite both being guardian breeds. The Pyr is a lot kinder and more approachable, though protective... the Tibetan is aloof and mistrusting, and is quite a handful even for an experienced handler.

I was looking into Komondors a while ago when I was researching breeders for my new show dog, but opted not to go for one.. we were moving into a new house and had no grass.. I was afraid the forming cords would get innundated with mud and looking at our swamp right now (lots of rain lately), I'm glad I chose not to go with the breed. :D
 
sunfox said:
Dusty,

Sam is beautiful.. and most of the Pyrs I've known do fine with minimal exercise, like most flock guardian breeds. They don't move unless they have to.. which makes them economical large dogs to keep.. less food, less exercise.

I really wish you would tell Sam all this. He doesn't seem to know this lol. He's VERY hyper still, but it does take them 2-3 years to become fully grown and start to calm down. And he can be VERY ALOOF, he keeps his distance most of the time. If it's not hot outside he is in and out, in and out. I think he's torn between being a part of what is going on with the family and being a guardian. Now... when he wants to be loved on you cant get away from him. If you try to escape him without giving him all the attention he demands, you will get pounced or nipped (trying to break him of that awful habit).
Thank you, I wont argue with you at all about him being beautiful. I cant take him anywhere unless I plan on being there for a long time because he attracts so much attention. He loves it though, and if someone doesnt oooh and awww over him he gets his feelings hurt. It's hilarious to watch him when this happens, because he starts thinking of ways to get that person to fawn over him. When I take him to the nursing home he isn't happy till he has been to every room, and even though some of the people kind of scare him he still lets them pet him. Such a sweet boy.

Komondors are so odd, pretty but odd. I wonder how you groom them :confused: Sam is fairly easy to groom, he only gets mats behind his ears (love mats is what they are called by Pyr breeders) and the fur on the rest of his body will look like a mat but it can be brushed out fairly easily. First time I noticed what I thought was a mat I got the scissors out but decided to try the brush on it first. I was totally vexed when I was able to brush it. He loves water so bathing is a cinch fortunately. My cairn terrier on the other hand... He doesnt much care for being brushed, he tolerates bathing, and dont you dare touch his paws.... Crazy loveable hairy thing...

What kind of dogs do you breed/show?
 
Seduce said:
Purebred dogs are needed for certain purposes.
You cannot go hunting with any dog.
You cannot expect any dog to watch over your sheep and fight with wolf packs.
You cannot expect i.e. terrier to save someone from drowning.

What I despise is when someone has Irish wolfhound in 2-rooms flat on the 15th floor, or tries to keep Tibetan mastiff as a house pet.

For the record, sled dogs are not pure bred. There is no pure bred husky, although Mackenzie River and Siberian are begining to be thought of a breed instead of a mix.

Here we get dogs by the owner. We are hoping to get one of Susan Butcher's dogs, and although her and Dave keep about 50, they are very well trained. I have gotten one from the pound, and he was a great dog, but i happened to see the owner while i was looking her over, and she told me all about her. We got one from a soldier who was leaving, and apparently he got her from an abusive owner, because it was three years before she would run for me. She ran for my wife well, but i had alpha roll her every time, and sometimes even bite her ear to get going. And if i was skiing and she was pulling me, i could never use poles...that just freaked her out.

And two related things. First, every time i saw this thread i thought it said my dog was stinky...

Second. Do not let anyone tell you that sled racing with dogs is cruel. When you start off, the biggest problem you have is getting them to stop if you need to. Most teams will not stop before the first mile. There are vets at every stop, and if any one of them so much as thinks you are mistreating your dogs, they can pull you right then and there. One year, during the Yukon Quest, they pulled the leader because they thought he was running his dogs too hard. The dogs were fine, but they had never seen anyone run so fast, so they just pulled him.

I knew i was a real alaskan when i could name more sled dog racers than basket ball players.
 
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