Mushroom of Knowledge

[twelveoone]

Some Links I may have posted before, more or less consolidated

 

[HarryHill]

Some Links I may have posted before, more or less consolidated

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great idea 12. no link here yet, wait for it?..

 

[twelveoone]

Formalist

Lewis Turco
Lewis Turco's blog
Poetics and Ruminations

Odd and Invented Forms

Expansive Poetry Online

my introduction to Joseph S. Salemi
A voice from the inside

This is the terrible ersatz world of New Formalism. The fake meter, the fake rhyme, the all-pervasive lyricism, and the straitjacket of decorum are still forbidding presences that frustrate much potential. Can we start writing real poetry again, instead of this ersatz crap?


excerpt from Our Ersatz World


an older severed link
In Defense of Meter

Sonnet Central

sadly not updated

two particular links I found interesting
Keats gets trounced by Hunt

Interesting essay on Yeats and the sonnet, I was under the impression he had only written two, well not many

 

[twelveoone]

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great idea 12. no link here yet, wait for it?..

yes, trying to remember and recheck, and group according to type.

 

[twelveoone]

Reading Poetry

Reading poetry is one thing, writing another, but you really can't write unless you read, and it is a different type of reading, all simple links

http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/751/01/


http://writing.wisc.edu/Handbook/ReadingPoetry.html

http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/19882

http://www.theguardian.com/books/200...ting.wendycope

 

[todski28]

Thanks, this makes referencing easier than running through threads

 

[twelveoone]

These four are all pretty much Generally Accepted Standardized Poetry (Gasp) , but with good poetry, good articles, etc.

http://www.poetryfoundation.org/

http://www.poets.org/page.php/prmID/630

http://rpo.library.utoronto.ca/


http://www.bartleby.com/verse/

in other words, fundamentals, and free.

 

[twelveoone]

Recordings

http://www.poetryarchive.org/poetryarchive/aboutus.do

 

[twelveoone]

TEXTETC
This may be one of the finest poetry sites around, covers everything I could think of and it is balanced, it however is not a beginner site.

 

[GuiltyPleasure]

TEXTETC
This may be one of the finest poetry sites around, covers everything I could think of and it is balanced, it however is not a beginner site.

This does look great - a life-time of perusal. Thank you.

 

[greenmountaineer]

TEXTETC
This may be one of the finest poetry sites around, covers everything I could think of and it is balanced, it however is not a beginner site.

Just started reading this. Well worth the time, even if only 10 or 15 minutes at a time.

 

[twelveoone]

Just started reading this. Well worth the time, even if only 10 or 15 minutes at a time.

Good, you may have heard of this guy. I'm posting this primarily for you.
Timothy Steele
A Vermonter

from the authors statement
Because comparatively few poets today write in meters, rhymes, and stanzas, my use of these has resulted in my being labeled a "formalist." But I find this term meaningless and even objectionable. It suggests, among other things, an interest in style rather than substance, whereas I believe that the two are mutually vital in any successful poem...I have never said that vers libre is somehow wrong and immoral or that meter is somehow right and pure. The experimental school of Pound, Eliot, Lawrence, and Williams has its own beauties and achievements. But we can prize them justly and build on them, it seems to me, only if we retain a knowledge and appreciation of the time-tested principles of standard versification.

so far, so good. However Steele on careful reading as modified (or updated) the principles a bit, and it is not far off from what I have been saying (keeping in mind, he is from Vermont and I am not, nor are most people)
The Forms of Poetry
some disagreement here, but so what?
His scansion of normal speech is priceless (no sarcasm here) as probably most 10 syllable lines can with a degree of fudging be marked off as five feet.


Introduction to Meter

Keep in mind this is his scansion, but no argument from me, and this is noteworthy:

We can make this point clearer by supplementing the conventional two-level notation of scansion with a numerical four-level register...
his example of a tetrameter has three "beats" his example of the trimeter has four, possibly five.

as for me I'll probably buy his book.

as for the rest here, careful reading is advised, and he says something about the line end, careful there also.This does not change my view on vers libre


more on scansion and metre can easily be found on Wikipedia

 

[twelveoone]

Versification: An Electronic Journal of Literary Prosody.

our boy Tom at it again
(The Legacy of T.S. Eliot to Milton Studies)

and
Resources
seriously, check it out.


Excellent new pedagogic tool for teaching prosody: For Better for Verse: An interactive learning tool that can help students understand what makes metered poetry in English tick.

 

[twelveoone]

Excellent new pedagogic tool for teaching prosody: For Better for Verse: An interactive learning tool that can help students understand what makes metered poetry in English tick.

and then....heh,heh,heh


Adopted from GENERATIVE LINGUISTICS

Intra
Interactive Tutorial On Rhythm Analysis

 

[butters]

bookmarked

ty

 

[twelveoone]

Modeling

These three papers are parts of a larger project using connectionist theories to model the performance of poetic meter. - Malcolm Hayward


A Connectionist Model of Poetic Meter
Applications of a Connectionist Model of Poetic Meter to Problems in Generative Metrics
Analysis of a Corpus of Poetry by a Connectionist Model of Poetic

illustrates some of the things you should consider even if you are not building a program
i.e. the problems, problems, problems of poetry.

Analysing Sound Patterns [draft] -Tim Love
This project aims to produce a free tool to assist literature students and academics in analysing sound patterns in texts. One project ended in May 2004 and the other ended in May 2006.

 

[HarryHill]

bumped for Thosa ms? im tired

just the tip of the iceberg