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MSNBC says Hispanics are turning Republican because of 'really really toxic culture wars' and 'paranoia' against socialism in schools
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Sean Renaud
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So basically if you gaslight people hard enough it starts sinking in one level or another. Though it would be interesting to see if this is any sort of long term trend which I doubt.
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Well that is quite simple for a reasonable person. If you are against in this instance socialism and one party seems to be running with it and pushing socialism agenda more and the other is not, which side would the person side with. The side without the socialism agenda. That is the choice each person can make.
To reason it the cause is Toxic culture wars and paranoia is trying to create push unreasonable blame upon the other party. Which is funny, as the supposed source of the paranoia and toxicity is the party they are going to. I would like to think people are smarter than that.
To reason it the cause is Toxic culture wars and paranoia is trying to create push unreasonable blame upon the other party. Which is funny, as the supposed source of the paranoia and toxicity is the party they are going to. I would like to think people are smarter than that.
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While you're not wrong the reality is that socialism is a buzz word for anything a Republican doesn't like. Universal Health Care is evil socialism, when we point out Western Europe, Canada yadda yadda we are told those are not socialist countries. Which is true mind you but its really just double speak.
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They aren't. All you have to do is read the crap the foaming-at-the-mouth progressives post on here to understand that Trump permanently broke their brains.
We're not the idiots posting things from The Blaze, are we?
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That would almost make sense if you didn't vote for Trump twice, RAPEY. What the fuck is wrong with your brain?
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This is specifically why the Right cannot argue with facts they have to stick to insults. Most of the Lefts ideas are very popular in the US and the handful that aren't aren't even real positions. I've yet to see anybody of importance speak of defunding the police and Biden wants to give them more funding. I'm generally a "throw money at a problem" kind of guy and I don't think that their funding is the problem. Not when they are literally complaining they won't be able to buy military grade equipment. Even in the 90's when crime was pretty bad there was no need for armored vehicles in the streets. There certainly isn't one now. What we need to start with rebuilding trust between the police and the communities. Which depending on where you are does mean sanctuary cities is a must starting place.
It also means we need to see consequences for when police do something wrong. I have to assume it happens a bit more than we hear about just because human beings are negative.
Do you think that is a long term trend or just something that happening at the moment. I remember Bush pulled a lot of them back in the 2000s but the party managed to drive them right back after that and I don't see that changing.
It's more likely to be momentary, if the immigrants put their economic interests above culture-war bullshit. Native-born Americans often do not, but with immigrants, who knows?
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Lol, they were popular in Germany too and look where that got us.
Yet another instance where you're totally clueless about what's been going on. Google could be your friend, if you figured out how to use it. Fair warning, it's very very very complicated to type something in a search box and hit enter. Scrolling through the results is also extremely complicated. Selecting something to read so you'd actually know what you're talking about before you open your mouth is, I'm positive, beyond your abilities but at least you can look at the pictures.
Sanctuary cities are anarchy not "rebuilding trust." When you openly flout the law, you're not advancing anything but anarchy.
Lol, like Chauvin? Or the other cops with him? Or the other instances where cops went to jail for what they did?
The system works. What doesn't work is YOU believing the bullshit you're spoon fed by legacy media out of TDS and poutrage.
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MSNBC is fake liberal bullshit.
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The reason more and more Hispanics are confounding Democrats by turning Republican is because most don’t see themselves as a monolithic voting block. There is no shared experience of slavery or cultural affinity to any particular political party.
Most are not recent immigrants. They are multigenerational descendants of immigrants who came from all over central and South America. Many are Catholic with strong pro-life views. Many are firearm owners who support gun rights. Among those who are recent legal immigrants who waited in line, many are troubled by the lax border enforcement. Many are working class families and small businesses owners struggling with excessive taxation, inflation, and onerous government regulations.
In short, they are Americans first, not “Hispanics” first.
Most are not recent immigrants. They are multigenerational descendants of immigrants who came from all over central and South America. Many are Catholic with strong pro-life views. Many are firearm owners who support gun rights. Among those who are recent legal immigrants who waited in line, many are troubled by the lax border enforcement. Many are working class families and small businesses owners struggling with excessive taxation, inflation, and onerous government regulations.
In short, they are Americans first, not “Hispanics” first.
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I think it's that plus the fact that most people can figure out when someone is being a complete lying and incompetent asshole like Brandon and the rest are.
Society is a macrocosm. Juries are a slice of that and they often get it right when presented with facts, even when there are multiple viewpoints about those facts. Not always, because we're made up of our own perceptions and biases, but usually.
Ethinic voting blocks are the social macro-equivalent to juries. They're getting the facts laid out for them daily and they're coming to a verdict on what those facts mean. But, just like some defendants who pound the table and proclaim their innocence after a unanimous guilty decision, the Dem's are doing the same here.
Society is a macrocosm. Juries are a slice of that and they often get it right when presented with facts, even when there are multiple viewpoints about those facts. Not always, because we're made up of our own perceptions and biases, but usually.
Ethinic voting blocks are the social macro-equivalent to juries. They're getting the facts laid out for them daily and they're coming to a verdict on what those facts mean. But, just like some defendants who pound the table and proclaim their innocence after a unanimous guilty decision, the Dem's are doing the same here.
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You know that doesn't even make sense right? That more and more are switching parties, which we'll see. I heard this story way back in 2000 when Bush managed to get a decent chunk of the Hispanic vote and then they mostly came right back for Obama, Bush, Hillary, and even in 2020 the Right is trying to claim that 32% to 66% is a huge win. Clearly they do vote as a bloc.The reason more and more Hispanics are confounding Democrats by turning Republican is because most don’t see themselves as a monolithic voting block. There is no shared experience of slavery or cultural affinity to any particular political party.
Most are not recent immigrants. They are multigenerational descendants of immigrants who came from all over central and South America. Many are Catholic with strong pro-life views. Many are firearm owners who support gun rights. Among those who are recent legal immigrants who waited in line, many are troubled by the lax border enforcement. Many are working class families and small businesses owners struggling with excessive taxation, inflation, and onerous government regulations.
In short, they are Americans first, not “Hispanics” first.
America First is a stupid fucking racist slogan stolen from the KKK FFS. Those words should really never be uttered within the confines of the United States.
Sorry Leftist ideas were actively destroyed in Germany so you might want to learn how Google works as you advised me to do. You didn't provide me with any information on what politicians are running on defund the police.
Sanctuary Cities are all about rebuilding and building initial trust with the police force. It not only does not create chaos, it actually actively prevents it. When you can explain why Jose's getting stabbed is acceptable to you because he crossed the border, perhaps even as a child you'll have a point. Please justify why you support gang violence.
You do understand, don't you, that the Nazis were not leftists?
And some are not even descended from immigrants. Their ancestors lived in what is now the U.S. before the Mexican-American War or the Texas Revolution. The country migrated, they didn't.
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Not if the Washington Times says so, it isn't.
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Actually the Washington Times simply cited polls conducted by WSJ and Marist.
WSJ, 3/11/22
“The survey also found Republicans making gains among minority groups. By 9 percentage points, Hispanic voters in the new poll said they would back a Republican candidate for Congress over a Democrat. The two parties had been tied among Hispanic voters in the Journal’s survey in November.”
And as the Examiner notes regarding the Marist poll:
“Among Hispanics, whose vote has become increasingly critical in swing areas of the country, 52% said they would pick a Republican if the election were held immediately, compared with 39% who planned to vote for a Democrat.”
But go ahead and stay in denial if it makes you feel better.