Moving Countries...

[Vermilion]

Ok, so... hypothetically ... you're a male teacher of maths and physics (11-18 year olds) with a wife who has admin skills and the pair of you are looking to move abroad from the UK to another country for a year or two - working while you're there - where the fuckety fuck do you start?


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[kendo1]

Packing.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Canada, Australia, Mexico , some other past colony of the UK.

Don't count on the US for a work visa.

 

[Vermilion]

Packing.

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Seriously though - would another country want that teacher, would they accept the UK qualifications, what legal processes (Visas etc) would you have to go through, how would you find accommodation, would you need to ship all your worldly possessions over or could you find something fully furnished even including towels, how do you sort necessary insurance....?
Just for a start.

ETA - said teacher also has doctorate in aero dynamics and would love a job in engineering if they actually exist...

 

[kendo1]

Like he said. Canada, Australia, New Zealand.

 

[oggbashan]

Dubai - benefits including accommodation are good and pay can be astronomic.

Worth considering for a couple of years.

Og

 

[JagFarlane]

Canada, Australia, Mexico , some other past colony of the UK.

Don't count on the US for a work visa.

Don't count on Canada unless they know someone there.

Abroad include France, Germany, Italy?

perhaps offer us a region of the world they'd be interested in traveling to?

 

[sr71plt]

Largely what Zeb posted (although I don't know how Mexico slipped in there as a former UK colony). Look for places where there is an English school with upper forms. (e.g., Cyprus, Singapore, some of the African countries).

 

[Vermilion]

Don't count on Canada unless they know someone there.

Abroad include France, Germany, Italy?

perhaps offer us a region of the world they'd be interested in traveling to?

France Germany Italy - too easy to get to, too hard to work in w/o the lingo.

 

[JagFarlane]

France Germany Italy - too easy to get to, too hard to work in w/o the lingo.

Hong Kong? Only been a part of China for a decade...prior UK colony...exotic location yet am sure many would speak the language.

 

[kendo1]

Don't count on Canada unless they know someone there.

Abroad include France, Germany, Italy?

perhaps offer us a region of the world they'd be interested in traveling to?

I know someone in Canada.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

From what I understand, Canada and the UK have a treaty or something that allows people to shift back and forth and work while in country. Australia also has the same treaty. Don't know about New Zealand.

The engineer might check with organization such as NASA, Boeing, etc. to see if they are looking for an engineer with a Phd. in aero dynamics. If he could get over here (US) on an H something or other visa you could stay until he gets let go or you decide to leave. You on the other hand would not be able to work while in the states with your hubby.

Mexico was a joke sr.

 

[driphoney]

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Seriously though - would another country want that teacher, would they accept the UK qualifications, what legal processes (Visas etc) would you have to go through, how would you find accommodation, would you need to ship all your worldly possessions over or could you find something fully furnished even including towels, how do you sort necessary insurance....?
Just for a start.

ETA - said teacher also has doctorate in aero dynamics and would love a job in engineering if they actually exist...

Math teachers are hard to come by in this country, and native English speakers are even harder. With that doctorate, you might also try colleges, especially community colleges, for all sorts of math related teaching, they hire a lot of non-Americans (not sure how they got here, probably on their own, no work visa.) As for them moving you. No way. Recently was talking to a math department head and he especially has trouble finding male math instructors. You're gonna need that masters for public school here too, by the way.

But, wouldn't you prefer somewhere more exotic?

 

[Vermilion]

From what I understand, Canada and the UK have a treaty or something that allows people to shift back and forth and work while in country. Australia also has the same treaty. Don't know about New Zealand.

The engineer might check with organization such as NASA, Boeing, etc. to see if they are looking for an engineer with a Phd. in aero dynamics. If he could get over here (US) on an H something or other visa you could stay until he gets let go or you decide to leave. You on the other hand would not be able to work while in the states with your hubby.

Mexico was a joke sr.

I thought organisations like those didn't recruit from outside the States...

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I thought organisations like those didn't recruit from outside the States...

I have and am now working for a huge corporation IT dept. We have quite a number of non-citizens working here on H1 - H5 (I think that's the nomenclature) visas. If they can't find a applicant here in the US they can hire foreigners willing to relocate here.

Boeing is a private company, NASA isn't but they aren't opposed to qualified worker from foreign lands.

 

[sr71plt]

Mexico was a joke sr.

Mexico often is a joke. Not too safe at the moment, though.

 

[jomar]

There are teachers all over the world teaching abroad. In my local system I've known of teachers from France, India, UK, Spain, Africa, Japan, etc over for a few years on contract. I've met US teachers who have taught in Hong Kong, UK, Brussels, and a few other places I can't recall. Most have taught in English speaking schools. Usually, if your licensed as a teacher the license will be accepted by the host country - at least this is what I was told.

Google "international teachers" or "teaching abroad" and you should get lots of hits that will have some relevant info for you.

 

[R. Richard]

Mexico isn't a joke. Right now Mexico is pretty close to suicide. DON'T GO TO MEXICO! [I used to work down there and I have some contacts.]

 

[wafflemtl]

UK, Canada and Australia are all part of the Commonwealth and have special arrangement for visa.

The first things I did to move here was to go to the ambassy and ask for the different forms of visa and which one I could apply for etc... You can also try the ambassy web site you'll find plenty of informations there.
For the job, depending of the country you have web site too (ie here : jobboom, monster)

And if you are interested in Montreal, I know that Pratt & Whitney have a research lab on aero dynamics here.

Oh! And check the weather too.Do you like it cold or hot ?

 

[damppanties]

Dubai - benefits including accommodation are good and pay can be astronomic.

Worth considering for a couple of years.

Og

He speaks the truth. Been there, seen it.

Also, if considering teaching, look for schools that follow the British curriculum. My cousin graduated from the British International School in Bahrain.

 

[john-the-author]

Dubai - benefits including accommodation are good and pay can be astronomic.

Worth considering for a couple of years.

Og

Og speaks sooth. Dubai, Abu Dhabi, and several other countries are still a good place to go if you're willing to work overseas. There are still plenty of jobs in parts of Saudi, too. One of the big things is if you can stand the heat (Riyadh gets really, really hot in summer), but there are many very nice things to be said about working in these places. And Abu Dhabi and Dubai are both pretty cosmopolitan.

I may be able to put you in touch with friends who work there now (and love it) if you like. Ping me privately and we can talk a little more should you be interested. Be glad to help.

 

[john-the-author]

UK, Canada and Australia are all part of the Commonwealth and have special arrangement for visa.

The first things I did to move here was to go to the ambassy and ask for the different forms of visa and which one I could apply for etc... You can also try the ambassy web site you'll find plenty of informations there.
For the job, depending of the country you have web site too (ie here : jobboom, monster)

And if you are interested in Montreal, I know that Pratt & Whitney have a research lab on aero dynamics here.

Oh! And check the weather too.Do you like it cold or hot ?

Toronto's a gorgeous city, too, but you really have to enjoy the cold winters to be happy there. I thought about moving there at one point I was so taken with it.

 

[Chantilyvamp]

A friend of ours work in the states now teaching at a university. She applied for it, they offered and then between them sorted the work visa out. They've been over there for nearly a year now. Now her husband didn't work last I checked because he didn't have the same arrangement before hand. But he was given a visa to stay with her since they were married.

Or like the others said go to one of the countries that has an agreement so it's easier.

 

[ishtat]

I left UK in 1980 for a job overseas "for a couple of years". I have been back over 120 times but only lived there again for 2 years. The rest of the time was spent about 30% in USA 50% in Australia and the remainder in a number of different spots.

It is now relatively difficult to get into countries that used to be easy. ie Canada US and OZ and only the US of those has an Aero industry of significance. Talk to the Institute of Engineers and see if they can help.

It would be worth checking to see whether there are any maths teaching positions at some of the second division UNIs ie the ones outside the big cities.

In OZ the State education bureaucracies are dreadful to deal with. For example in NSW the biggest state by population you can only apply to be a teacher; the central authority if it accepts you then reserves the right to send you anywhere in the state it likes and you're not allowed to transfer to somewhere you might like for a minimum of 3 years.

However, employment as a temp is relatively simple but that status can last a long time.

In OZ you would be better off applying to the private school system (which educates about 40% of High School children). The Churches run most of the private schools but only the RC's seem to place much emphasis on religion.

I think you can check on the internet to see if you might qualify for certain countries but beware of agencies that advertise "services" that will guarantee you entry. The only thing they can guarantee is to lighten your pocket.

Good Luck.

 

[Safe_Bet]

Yeah, do Dubai or Abu Dhabi cuz you would look HOT in an Abaya and veil!!!!