More undocumented children arrive in Arizona in DHS bid to relieve crowding

[toubab]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/08/us/arizona-dhs-undocumented-children-moved/

"(CNN) -- More than 100 undocumented children without families were expected to arrive in Arizona from south Texas on Sunday as part of a federal transport of underage immigrants to the state by the Department of Homeland Security, a spokesman said.

Last week, nearly 1,000 "unaccompanied alien children" had already arrived in Tucson and Phoenix from places like McAllen and El Paso, Texas, as part of a resettlement process of the minors, most of whom come from Central America, to their native countries.

Unlike a Mexican immigrant who arrives to the United States, a Central American immigrant cannot be processed as quickly because of proximity to their native country. Homeland Security is prohibited from immediately deporting the children if they are not from Canada or Mexico, causing the backlog of immigrants in U.S. detention centers.

Facilities in Texas were at or near capacity for the immigrants because of a "record increase in underage migrants," which led to the transfer of hundreds to Arizona, a spokesman said."


This is getting serious, as Cantor just learned, and others will, in both major parties.

 

[miles]

We need to call these people what they are - ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS - instead of "undocumented?" I really don't think most young people today understand there is a legal path to citizenship that millions of people have followed.

 

[toubab]

Can we finally call these people what they are - ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS - instead of "undocumented?"

Not on CNN.

 

[miles]

Not on CNN.

We don't have an immigration issue - we have an illegal immigration issue.

 

[Que]

Can we finally call these people what they are - ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS - instead of "undocumented?"

The most "progress" progressives make is in co-opting and altering language to change the debate.

You did it too, unknowingly.

They are not 'Illegal Immigrants" they are Illegal Aliens. An immigrant implies that they are necessarily staying. Alien is correct you have no immigration status unless you apply for and are granted asylum or citizenship. Your third legal option is a green card. A "Resident Alien" card. You can live and work here, but you belong elsewhere for purposes of citizenship.

I think Australia is a lovely country. If I fly there and stay, they don't consider me an "immigrant" unless I have a chat with them about my worth to their fine little land mass.

A "migrant worker" can be anyone that moves from place to place in search of work, like seasonal pickers. Some of those people cross international borders, some do not.

But a migrant is one who moves around, and immigrant relocates.

I am not sure why he couldn't just close the border, issue 20 million green cards and be done with it. After that if he wants 20 million democratic voters work with congress on the yearly allotment of accepted applications for citizenship. If you are a net contributor, you are in. If not, reapply next year.

 

[miles]

The most "progress" progressives make is in co-opting and altering language to change the debate.

You did it too, unknowingly.

They are not 'Illegal Immigrants" they are Illegal Aliens. An immigrant implies that they are necessarily staying. Alien is correct you have no immigration status unless you apply for and are granted asylum or citizenship. Your third legal option is a green card. A "Resident Alien" card. You can live here, but you belong elsewhere for purposes of citizenship.

I think Australia is a lovely country. If I fly there and stay, they don't consider me an "immigrant" unless I have a chat with them about my worth to their fine little land mass.

A "migrant worker" can be anyone that moves from place to place in search of work, like seasonal pickers. Some of those people cross international borders, some do not.

But a migrant is one who moves around, and immigrant relocates.

You're technically correct, but the bottom line is the people crossing the border are doing it illegally. They're breaking the law and The Fraud and the Chamber of Commerce are turning a blind eye and desperately want them to have amnesty.. The rest is semantics.

 

[miles]

I am not sure why he couldn't just close the border, issue 20 million green cards and be done with it. After that if he wants 20 million democratic voters work with congress on the yearly allotment of accepted applications for citizenship. If you are a net contributor, you are in. If not, reapply next year.

Because like everything else The Fraud says it's a crisis (even though he manufactured it) and can't wait any longer. He did the same thing with ACA.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

We need to call this what it really is, Obama and Holder getting even with Arizona for having the temerity to try and defy them in the first term.

 

[miles]

We need to call this what it really is, Obama and Holder getting even with Arizona for having the temerity to try and defy them in the first term.

I have a feeling we haven't heard the last of Gov. Brewer on this subject. This could very well be the manufactured distraction to take our minds off the Bergdahl distraction which took our minds off the VA distraction.

Know what I mean, Vern?

 

[RobDownSouth]

I have a feeling we haven't heard the last of Gov. Brewer on this subject. This could very well be the manufactured distraction to take our minds off the Bergdahl distraction which took our minds off the VA distraction.

Know what I mean, Vern?

Notice how everything is a conspiracy to Miles?

 

[miles]

I LOL when I read this. The entire WH has lost its grip on reality.

WHITE HOUSE: CANTOR LOST BECAUSE HE WASN'T MORE PRO-AMNESTY

As soon as House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) stunningly lost his primary to Dave Brat on Tuesday, the White House proclaimed that Cantor lost his race because he wasn't pro-amnesty enough.

White House Senior Adviser Dan Pfeiffer said Cantor's "problem wasn't his position on immigration reform," bur rather "his lack of a position."

 

[BoyNextDoor]

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

 

[Que]

Lotsa huddled masses in Somalia...write your congressman...have him ship a couple score of them to your city. Double your minimum wage and you'll be in clover by Christmas!

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

I LOL when I read this. The entire WH has lost its grip on reality.

WHITE HOUSE: CANTOR LOST BECAUSE HE WASN'T MORE PRO-AMNESTY

As soon as House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) stunningly lost his primary to Dave Brat on Tuesday, the White House proclaimed that Cantor lost his race because he wasn't pro-amnesty enough.

White House Senior Adviser Dan Pfeiffer said Cantor's "problem wasn't his position on immigration reform," bur rather "his lack of a position."

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it miles?
It wasn't said that he lost because he wasn't more "pro-amnesty", it was because he didn't take a position. It says so right there in the partial quote you failed to read.

 

[Que]

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it miles?
It wasn't said that he lost because he wasn't more "pro-amnesty", it was because he didn't take a position. It says so right there in the partial quote you failed to read.

So your position is that the White House's position is he needed to "take a position" any position? He would have been just fine if he had come out strongly AGAINST amnesty?...You get that impression coupled with the example they gave of Graham SUPPORTING amnesty?

Don't be obtuse.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I have a feeling we haven't heard the last of Gov. Brewer on this subject. This could very well be the manufactured distraction to take our minds off the Bergdahl distraction which took our minds off the VA distraction.

Know what I mean, Vern?

It's an act of love...


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[Skiddles2014]

We need to call these people what they are - ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS - instead of "undocumented?" I really don't think most young people today understand there is a legal path to citizenship that millions of people have followed.

They are children without families.

Don't these children know better?

 

[Skiddles2014]

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door, so I can slam it in your worthless face"

2014 GOP update.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

2014 GOP update.

Truth.

We are all immigrants or descendants of immigrants here in the US of A.

 

[RobDownSouth]

We need to call these people what they are - ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS - instead of "undocumented?" I really don't think most young people today understand there is a legal path to citizenship that millions of people have followed.

It's a shame they can't automatically claim dual citizenship like you do, Herr Judenazi.

 

[miles]

So your position is that the White House's position is he needed to "take a position" any position? He would have been just fine if he had come out strongly AGAINST amnesty?...You get that impression coupled with the example they gave of Graham SUPPORTING amnesty?

Don't be obtuse.

He can't help it.

 

[RobDownSouth]

So your position is that the White House's position is he needed to "take a position" any position? He would have been just fine if he had come out strongly AGAINST amnesty?...You get that impression coupled with the example they gave of Graham SUPPORTING amnesty?

Don't be obtuse.

#AscriptionAgain

 

[KingOrfeo]

This is getting serious, as Cantor just learned, and others will, in both major parties.

Well, as to that:

In politics, there’s a rush to find “the answer.” There’s no one reason why Cantor lost, but a crucial part of the story no doubt begins in Central America.

In recent months, tens of thousands of children unaccompanied by their parents have been flooding across the US border with Mexico. Sixty thousand will come this year, up tenfold from 2011, and as many as 130,000 may arrive in 2015. Lackland Air Force Base in Texas is filling up with these refugees, one of three military bases now being used to house the new arrivals. President Obama has declared it an “urgent humanitarian situation.”

The situation has gotten light to moderate coverage in the mainstream press, but in the right-wing press the coverage has been wall to wall: it has been relentlessly covered by online outlets like Breitbart News, and talked about incessantly on right-wing radio. Fox News has also devoted considerable attention to the crisis; the night before the Virginia primary, for example, Kelly had a long segment about it on her prime-time show.

Naturally, the right-wing concern isn’t exactly driven by a humanitarian spirit. The overwhelming message is that the influx—which will indeed cost taxpayers millions of dollars—is not only a harbinger of things to come but a direct result of Obama’s desire for immigration reform. Specifically, goes the narrative, Obama’s promise of a DREAM Act that would confer citizenship on undocumented youth is spurring the stampede.

This is mainly nonsense: for one, the proposed DREAM Act would apply only to youth living continuously in the United States for five years before enactment. Though right-wing outlets like the Drudge Report have found immigrants here and there aware of the bill and hopeful that it might apply to them, by and large analysts agree that increasing violence in Central America is driving parents to send their children to safer areas in large numbers. Escalating drug wars in Mexico and improved US economic conditions are making the United States the obvious landing spot for the northward-bound refugees.

But this all came at a terrible time for Cantor. His biggest foray into the immigration debate was to propose and draft a Republican version of the DREAM Act dubbed the KIDS Act. The bill stalled out late last year, in part over disagreements about whether youth who obtained citizenship would be able to then sponsor their parents for legalization.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

So your position is that the White House's position is he needed to "take a position" any position? He would have been just fine if he had come out strongly AGAINST amnesty?...You get that impression coupled with the example they gave of Graham SUPPORTING amnesty?

Don't be obtuse.

My position is that miles can't fucking read. They said it was Cantors lack of position on immigration. It was right there in the quote that he posted.

Don't be an asshole and stop trying to tell me what my position is.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

He can't help it.

Go fuck yourself in your iggy bunker, fucking coward