More restrictions against toy guns?

[neci]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30181338

A 12 year old boy is shot and killed by the police for having a toy gun, and not raising his hands when the police yelled at him. Now advocates and legislators are calling for tougher restrictions on toy guns. I guess if you can't train your police properly or restrict the real thing, then next step is to go after the toy manufactures.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Toys are not the problem.

 

[Skiddles2014]

Toys are the problem.

USA USA USA!

 

[neci]

"Based on penal code 666, your child was wielding an illegal toy, thereby justifying our murder of him."

 

[smoothg103rd]

"Based on penal code 666, your child was wielding an illegal toy, thereby justifying our murder of him."

If someone points a toy gun at you, and you don't know it's a toy gun, you would shoot too.

 

[butters]

toys look like guns, guns look like toys....

did they determine whether or not the report that it may be a juvenile with a toy was passed on? i read and posted the link to the report yesterday, so i don't know if there're further developments.

 

[mdbigdee]

The orange tip of the Airsoft gun was removed to make the toy look more like a real firearm. This is a misdemeanor in most if not all states.

 

[neci]

If someone points a toy gun at you, and you don't know it's a toy gun, you would shoot too.

so the toy is the problem.

toys look like guns, guns look like toys....

did they determine whether or not the report that it may be a juvenile with a toy was passed on? i read and posted the link to the report yesterday, so i don't know if there're further developments.

so the 911 caller and dispatch is at fault?

 

[neci]

The orange tip of the Airsoft gun was removed to make the toy look more like a real firearm. This is a misdemeanor in most if not all states.

ah. toy tampering. gotcha.

this is the face of toy tampering.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/79219000/jpg/_79219157_79218937.jpg

 

[Skiddles2014]

Another thug ute...

 

[butters]

so the toy is the problem.



so the 911 caller and dispatch is at fault?

the culture is the problem. toys should look like toys, weapons like weapons, and the climate of fear that prevails in some minds leads to paranoia and reactions that are regretted at length.

i don't know - perhaps the information was passed on and ignored, then denied, or maybe it never reached the cops. i would hope recordings are able to prove things either way. humans fuck up.

they made a big deal over here about not selling toy guns of any sort in many shops, and those sold are clearly toys. bb guns, though, are a far greyer area. they were pretty popular here at one stage, but seem to have fallen from popularity where kids would rather have new phones/i-pods/notebooks/laptops/games consoles. hardly ever hear about bb guns now.

 

[Killswitch]

so the toy is the problem.

Toys don't kill people. Cops kill people.

 

[parodyluvr75]

so the toy is the problem.



so the 911 caller and dispatch is at fault?

If they make toy guns and BB guns, they should be bright colored and not realistic looking.

It's a sad truth though but not all murders are adults.

http://94.236.123.155:8083/shows/kids-who-kill/episode-guide/mainContent/0/thumb/Brenda Spencer.jpg

 

[doowdniw]

Completely avoidable, which makes it all the more tragic.

 

[Stewart_Pidd]

are Duck Dynasty toy guns any safer to carry bro?

Stew

 

[mdbigdee]

www.theblaze.com/blog/2013/01/23/anti-gun-nuts-worst-nightmare-check-out-these-real-hello-kitty-guns

 

[butters]

www.theblaze.com/blog/2013/01/23/anti-gun-nuts-worst-nightmare-check-out-these-real-hello-kitty-guns

obscene

 

[Boxlicker101]

the culture is the problem. toys should look like toys, weapons like weapons, and the climate of fear that prevails in some minds leads to paranoia and reactions that are regretted at length.

i don't know - perhaps the information was passed on and ignored, then denied, or maybe it never reached the cops. i would hope recordings are able to prove things either way. humans fuck up.

they made a big deal over here about not selling toy guns of any sort in many shops, and those sold are clearly toys. bb guns, though, are a far greyer area. they were pretty popular here at one stage, but seem to have fallen from popularity where kids would rather have new phones/i-pods/notebooks/laptops/games consoles. hardly ever hear about bb guns now.

Toy guns ARE made to look like toys but sometimes people change their appearance so they look real. That was what happened here.

Police said the orange safety indicator on the replica gun Tamir Rice was carrying, which resembled a semi-automatic pistol, had been removed.

Cleveland police chief Calvin Williams said his force would "gain knowledge" from the tragedy and be "proactive and diligent" in teaching children about the dangers of firearms "whether they are real or fake".

"Guns are not toys and the replica in this instance was indistinguishable from that of a real firearm," he added.

Deputy police chief Ed Tomba said one of the two officers involved shot the boy after he pulled the gun from the waistband of his trousers.

 

[chillywilly2]

At 12 years old, he should have been taught better than to point a gun at a cop.

When you live in a country where gun violence is rampant, you teach your kids how to survive

 

[butters]

Toy guns ARE made to look like toys but sometimes people change their appearance so they look real. That was what happened here.

if the only difference was a bright orange tip, easily removed, then that's not good enough.

manufacturers deliberately make their 'toys' aimed at older children as ''realistic'' looking as possible. older kids might want them, but it's generally the adults who buy the product for them. so - as a parent - why would i want to buy my child a gun that looks like a real gun? answer: i wouldn't.

as i said to neci, the problem is cultural; it can be changed using common sense.

 

[kaylee_69]

this happened very close to me, actually. it was definitely an avoidable tragedy. with that being said, a 12 year old should be taught to listen to police and not to be pointing toy guns around.

it was said that the police were not notified that the caller thought it could be a toy. maybe they were or maybe they weren't. either way, that police officer did not know if that gun was real or a toy. the boy pulled the gun out of his waistband and with only seconds to react, the police officer had to make a decision and shot him. i would have probably done the same thing out of wanting to survive.

sad story all around.

 

[butters]

At 12 years old, he should have been taught better than to point a gun at a cop.

When you live in a country where gun violence is rampant, you teach your kids how to survive

kids do stupid things all the time. nowhere i've read has it been said he pointed the gun at the officer - only that he reached for it. in a kid's head, he might have thought he was going to show them it was just a toy. we'll never know.

 

[smoothg103rd]

I remember when I was 12, how me and my friends use to go robbing with fake guns. Once it's pointed at you, you cannot tell if it's real or fake. But I WOULD'VE NEVER pointed a fake gun at someone with a real gun. That's suicide, And at 12 he should of knew better.

 

[smoothg103rd]

this happened very close to me, actually. it was definitely an avoidable tragedy. with that being said, a 12 year old should be taught to listen to police and not to be pointing toy guns around.

it was said that the police were not notified that the caller thought it could be a toy. maybe they were or maybe they weren't. either way, that police officer did not know if that gun was real or a toy. the boy pulled the gun out of his waistband and with only seconds to react, the police officer had to make a decision and shot him. i would have probably done the same thing out of wanting to survive.

sad story all around.

As he should.

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

I think that there are lot of cops who don't have to requisite balls to carry weapon and to do the job properly.