More News About Eating Out That You Didn't Want To Hear

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Restaurant diners run up hefty tab of fat, calories

By Nanci Hellmich, USA TODAY


The folks who told us that fettuccine Alfredo is a "heart attack on a plate" and movie popcorn is the "Godzilla" of snacks have analyzed the fat and calorie content of hundreds of restaurant foods.

This time, nutritionists with the Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI), a Washington-D.C. based consumer group, say:

A Starbucks White Chocolate Mocha (venti, 20 ounces) made with whole milk and whipped cream has 600 calories, about the same as a McDonald's Big Mac.

A steakhouse appetizer of more than 1 pound of French fries smothered in cheese, sprinkled with crumbled bacon and dipped in ranch dressing has 3,010 calories, more than most people need for the day.

Nine fried mozzarella sticks have 830 calories and 51 grams of fat. "You might as well sit down and eat a half-stick of butter," the nutritionists say.

CSPI's executive director Michael Jacobson and senior nutritionist Jayne Hurley have taken an in-depth look at the calories, total fat, saturated fat, cholesterol and sodium in a variety of restaurant foods and published their findings in a new book, Re staurant Confidential (Workman Publishing, $12.95).

The "magnitude of the fat and calories" in some of the foods surprised even them, Hurley says. "Yes, we knew a pecan roll wasn't good, but we didn't know how bad it was," she says. A Cinnabon Caramel Pecanbon has 890 calories.

The fat and calories in restaurant foods are playing havoc with Americans' waistlines, the authors say. It used to be that eating out was a treat, but now Americans are getting about one-third of their calories away from home, Jacobson says. As dining out has become more routine, obesity rates have skyrocketed, he says.

"The fact is that most restaurants serve huge portions, and the food is loaded with fat, calories and sodium," he says. "If you are going to eat out, you need to search around the corners of the menu to see if you can construct a meal that's reasonably healthy."

CSPI nutritionists spent nine years and several hundred thousand dollars analyzing about 250 menu items. Some of the dishes are composites of meals they gathered from several restaurants, including national chains, in different cities. They collected nutritional information from restaurant chains and fast-food outlets. They examined family-style, Chinese, Italian, Mexican, Greek, seafood, steakhouses, pizzerias and fast food. They also looked at mall food, drinks and movie snacks.

Some people have criticized CSPI's research methodology of using composite samples, but the group defends its work, saying this is the best information on restaurant food that's out there.

Some facts the food detectives uncovered:

Appetizers, in general, are some of the worst things you can order, Hurley says. "Instead of whetting your appetite, they bludgeon it.

"The cheese fries are the worst food we've ever analyzed. It's like starting your meal with two T-bone steak dinners with Caesar salads and baked potatoes with butter," she says.

A batter-dipped, deep-fried whole onion (like the Bloomin' Onion at Outback Steakhouse and Texas Rose at the Lone Star Steakhouse) served with dipping sauce has 2,130 calories and 163 grams of fat. The average person needs about 2,000 to 2,500 calories a day, they point out.

An order of Kung Pao chicken, diced stir-fried chicken with peanuts in hot pepper sauce, has 1,620 calories and 76 grams of fat.

An order of fettuccine Alfredo contains 1,500 calories and 97 grams of fat.

It's hard to go to the mall and find a snack that's less than 500 calories, Hurley says. A 7 -ounce Cinnabon has 670 calories; a Dunkin' Donuts blueberry muffin, 490 calories. Even Auntie Anne's pretzels, some of the better choices, have 300 to 500 calories, she says.

The size of fast-food French fries has gotten bigger and higher in calories, Hurley says. An order of Burger King king-sized fries (6 ounces) has 600 calories and 30 grams of fat; McDonald's super-size French fries (7 ounces), 610 calories and 29 grams of fat.

Some restaurant industry observers have worried about the impact this information will have on diners.

"I don't think making people feel bad about what they eat is going to convince people to lead healthier lifestyles," says Sheila Cohn, nutrition coordinator for the National Restaurant Association. "I believe all foods can fit into a healthy diet when they're eaten in moderation."

Hurley says that just about every restaurant offers unique and healthy choices. For instance:

The Olive Garden has several lower-fat Garden Fare entrees, such as Chicken Giardino (460 calories) or Linguine alla Marinara (450 calories).

Wendy's has new Garden Sensation Salads with ingredients such as mandarin oranges, roasted almonds and super-sweet grape tomatoes.

McDonald's offers a Fruit 'n Yogurt parfait with granola, 380 calories.

Subway offers several 6-inch subs with seven grams of fat or less. You also can get a decent tuna salad at Subway because it's made with light mayo, Hurley says. A regular tuna salad sandwich can add up to 700 calories because of the full-fat mayo, she says.

"We're hoping a lot of people will use this information to choose healthier dishes when they eat out," Jacobson says. "And we're hoping that restaurateurs will make it easier for people by providing healthier items and providing more nutrition information on the menu."
 
A Large Whopper Meal has almost a full day's calories.

A medium choc-chip cookie dough Blizzard has almost 1000.
 
raindancer said:
How 'bout getting that damn cream sauce off your face then? :D

Listen Hiawatha, you have your issues, I have mine.

Besides, cum is low in calories.
 
The hell with calories!

Four diners in a restaurant in London ran up a wine bill at lunchtime of over $67,000!
 
Marxist said:


Listen Hiawatha, you have your issues, I have mine.

Besides, cum is low in calories.

You're right. I humbly bow to you and your fast food issue.

;)

Preach on, bruthaman! :p
 
bluespoke said:
The hell with calories!

Four diners in a restaurant in London ran up a wine bill at lunchtime of over $67,000!

...and they wonder what Enron executives did with their retirement.
 
RawHumor said:
A Large Whopper Meal has almost a full day's calories.

A medium choc-chip cookie dough Blizzard has almost 1000.

...I ate 4 meals yesterday and didn't top 2700. Is it any wonder everyone is round?
 
Marxist said:
...I ate 4 meals yesterday and didn't top 2700. Is it any wonder everyone is round?

I honestly didn't know just how horrible all this stuff was for you until recently. I think I WANTED to not know so that I wouldn't care so much about eating it.
 
ah i read the post and I decided, I am still getting a shaq pack from burger king after my bath with king size fries, king size drink and the cheese dipping sauce. whats wrong with cheese sticks, I split them with my s.o, not unless we are at applebees and we get the sampler pack with the nachos, riblets,chicken quesadias(sp??)cheese sticks, then our steaks with french fries and mash potatoes, let not even go there about getting large popcorn afterwards for the movie and maybe some ice cream after the movie. wooo hooo god bless the delaware plaza!!!
 
InnocentAngel81 said:
ah i read the post and I decided, I am still getting a shaq pack from burger king after my bath with king size fries, king size drink and the cheese dipping sauce. whats wrong with cheese sticks, I split them with my s.o, not unless we are at applebees and we get the sampler pack with the nachos, riblets,chicken quesadias(sp??)cheese sticks, then our steaks with french fries and mash potatoes, let not even go there about getting large popcorn afterwards for the movie and maybe some ice cream after the movie. wooo hooo god bless the delaware plaza!!!

Call Dr. Lombardi at your earliest convenience:

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Marxist said:
This time, nutritionists with the Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI), a Washington-D.C. based consumer group, say:

I'm been taking this article with a huge grain of salt, so to speak, since I heard about it the other day.

The CSPI has been behind some of the most alarmist and patently untrue food scares in the past ten years, such as the olestra scare, the demand that the Harry Potter folks back out of having Coke as an advertising partner, and the suggestion that "junk food" meats, such as hamburgers, hotdogs, and such, were laden with BDE (the "mad cow" bacteria).

They're agenda-mongers, and I absolutely despise them (mostly because they purport to be a scientific organization. Their flacking for the "anti-junk food" and "anti-meat" crowd makes actual science look bad by association).

Their science is, at best, dubious, their statistics are, for the most part, either outright lies or badly calculated, and their agenda is, well, kind of silly. Of course, that doesn't stop them from making it sound as if they're the most important folks in the world.
 
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JazzManJim said:


I'm been taking this article with a huge grain of salt, so to speak, since I heard about it the other day.

The CSPI has been behind some of the most alarmist and patently untrue food scares in the past ten years, such as the olestra scare, the demand that the Harry Potter folks back out of having Coke as an advertising partner, and the suggestion that "junk food" meats, such as hamburgers, hotdogs, and such, were laden with BDE (the "mad cow" bacteria).

They're agenda-mongers, and I absolutely despise them (mostly because they purport to be a scientific organization. Their flacking for the "anti-junk food" and "anti-meat" crowd makes actual science look bad by association).

Their science is, at best, dubious, their statistics are, for the most part, either outright lies or badly calculated, and their agenda is, well, kind of silly. Of course, that doesn't stop them from making it sound as if they're the most important folks in the world.

I do think they're alarmists but their science is more true than anything you'll ever hear from the companies that manufacture the junk.

They're testing in real world conditions, not ideal conditions. Much like the burger on TV looks so much different than the one coming across the counter.
 
I stopped eating fast food awhile ago, and now it makes me sick. I mean literally sick. Physically ill. I can't keep it down. About the only thing that doesn't make me sick is Arby's, and it still tastes like plastic.

I really thought I'd miss the stuff, but man, just reading about it makes me queasy.
 
hey that reminds me...

I haven't had breakfast yet...and probably won't...But I will suck down some tacos later on...I can feel my arteries hardening already...I guess I'll have to unclog them with 1 dollar pounders of Budweiser...I've already started...Chug-a-Lug:rolleyes:
 
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Marxist said:


I do think they're alarmists but their science is more true than anything you'll ever hear from the companies that manufacture the junk.

They're testing in real world conditions, not ideal conditions. Much like the burger on TV looks so much different than the one coming across the counter.

Actually, their science is just as bad. Their numbers are badly elevated (for instance, they quoted a 20 percent figure for people who had reported problems with olestra, instead of the actual .1 percent which was reported by their own hotline).

They're as badly biased as the companies are. What makes them worse is their purporting to be an unbiased scientific entity. They're not. They're flackers.

What it comes down to is that junk food isn't the best food to eat. I don't think that's any real surprise to people. A group like the CSPI is just making money off of panic, and it's not even factual panic. :(
 
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JazzManJim said:


Actually, their science is just as bad. Their numbers are badly elevated (for instance, they quoted a 20 percent figure for people who had reported problems with olestra, instead of the actual .1 percent which was reported by their own hotline).

They're as badly biased as the companies are. What makes them worse is their purporting to be an unbiased scientific entity. They're not. They're flackers.

What it comes down to is that junk food isn't the best food to eat. I don't think that's any real surprise to people. A group like the CSPI is just making money off of panic, and it's not even factual panic. :(

Calories and fat are hard to flub though. I've calculated both in the lab and it's very easy.

That new Shaq pack is an entire day's worth of calories if you take it down with a Pepsi. Fat tastes good and American consumers are willing to pay for it with their health.
 
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Marxist said:


Calories and fat are hard to flub though. I've calculated both in the lab and it's very easy.

That new Shaq pack is an entire day's worth of calories if you take it down with a Pepsi. Fat tastes good and American consumers are willing to pay for it with their health.
ah you do not get a pepsi with the shaq pack, you get a coke, i should know i'm eatting now with the free side of small fries hehe
 
InnocentAngel81 said:


my doctor says i'm a perfectly healthy 20 year old

You'll make a very interesting 30 year old if you keep eating Shaq Packs (which Shaq himself doesn't even eat).

When I was young, I could eat 4000 calories without thinking twice. Now that I'm old and crotchety at 30, I've discovered there's this tiny band of fat that refuses to leave my waistline.

Just wait...
 
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InnocentAngel81 said:
ah you do not get a pepsi with the shaq pack, you get a coke, i should know i'm eatting now with the free side of small fries hehe

I want nudes of you and that Pepsi.
 
Worth thinking about, but come on, who actually eats that whole bloom'n onion thing by themselves? I've ordered it with five other people and we still didn't finish it.

Does this mean you don't like chubby chicks anymore?
 
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