More Mandate/Tax redux...

[4est_4est_Gump]

The FCC could run into legal problems with the Internet Tax Freedom Act, a 1998 law that bans the government from taxing Internet access. But the FCC has long argued that Universal Service is a fee that the providers choose to pass on to consumers and not a tax.

http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/245479-fcc-eyes-tax-on-internet-service

It's not a tax, it's a "fee."

Or an "investment."

Whatever linguistic games we have to play to get back into your wallet, we will employ.

Don't like the Healthcare tax, redefine it.
Don't like a regulation? Call it a law.
Don't like traditional marriage?
Redefine it on the fly.
Don't like abortion called murder? Say it's "legal."
Is someone's prejudice or bigotry "Offending" you? Call it Racism!
Then when you make their statements and thoughts illegal, it's not a Free Speech issue.

It's doing the right thing.

It's "hate" speech...

 

[RobDownSouth]

AJ, no matter how hard they try, you'll always be teh King of redefinin' things.


Nobody else but you could redefine the word "excessive" to mean "not too much".

Nobody else but you could redefine One Dollar, One Quarter and One Nickel to equal ninety one cents....

 

[about_average]

From linked article

But Turner argued that imposing a fee on broadband access, even if it is only a dollar or two, would discourage many people from buying the service—the exact opposite outcome of what the FCC is trying to achieve.

BS.
How many people would discontinue, or decide not to get, broadband access because there is a $1 fee added to the bill to provide access to a larger number of people?
A few on principle maybe, but if you can afford broadband access $12 a year isn't going to break you.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

After we give the Niggaz broadband they gonna need puters...to pawn.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

From linked articleBS.
How many people would discontinue, or decide not to get, broadband access because there is a $1 fee added to the bill to provide access to a larger number of people?
A few on principle maybe, but if you can afford broadband access $12 a year isn't going to break you.

Well, I would have to agree 100% if it were the only fee/tax.

After a while, by focusing on one tree instead of the entire forest, you get killed by a thousand paper cuts...

 

[RobDownSouth]

Well, I would have to agree 100% if it were the only fee/tax.

After a while, by focusing on one tree instead of the entire forest, you get killed by a thousand paper cuts...

Textbook case of AJ movin' teh goalposts.

 

[fuckwaffle]

Ahem...I see to remember in history class the argument for an income tax was, 10% is all we will ever need and it's only going to affect the rich. One million words of tax code latter...Government Officials are liars.

They never say what they mean and always underestimate the actual costs or the money needed for a project. The reason...hardly any of them have ever operated a real business. And they can get all the money they need from the taxpayer who are to stupid to understand what's going on.

 

[mercury14]

Ahem...I see to remember in history class the argument for an income tax was, 10% is all we will ever need and it's only going to affect the rich. One million words of tax code latter...Government Officials are liars.

They never say what they mean and always underestimate the actual costs or the money needed for a project. The reason...hardly any of them have ever operated a real business. And they can get all the money they need from the taxpayer who are to stupid to understand what's going on.

You realize that when a highway project runs over $10 million dollars it's usually because the real businesses involved in it failed to live up to their cost estimates, right?

 

[run_silent]

You forgot to mention that the Feds consider our tax system is voluntary.

 

[fuckwaffle]

You realize that when a highway project runs over $10 million dollars it's usually because the real businesses involved in it failed to live up to their cost estimates, right?

And that's because Government always takes the lowest bid or the minority bid.


"You get what you pay for."

 

[fuckwaffle]

You forgot to mention that the Feds consider our tax system is voluntary.

Right...even though that gun barrel impression on my temple just mysteriously appeared.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

We got a new one. Selfish=greedy

 

[mercury14]

And that's because Government always takes the lowest bid or the minority bid.


"You get what you pay for."

So government always takes bids from businesses made up of black people. And black people are too dumb to do math or something? Can you clarify what you mean here? It doesn't sound too well thought out.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You realize that when a highway project runs over $10 million dollars it's usually because the real businesses involved in it failed to live up to their cost estimates, right?

If "real" business was dealing with a "real" customer, this would not happen.

It's an artificial market where the game is, "I'll pretend to give a bid while you pretend not to micromanage the actual job."

If government were a "real" purchaser of goods and services, then they would do due diligence on the actual costs, but what they do is to make political deals now, so they can show how effective they are at delivering goods and services cheaply in exchange for votes in the very near future and then when some time has passed to go and say in the actual future, well I was not wrong, the contractor was, but we cannot stop now or it would all go to waste and since it is actually so essential, then we must spend more than the deal we made...

It's the same for construction projects as it is for Social Security, Education, or Health Care.

 

[fuckwaffle]

So government always takes bids from businesses made up of black people. And black people are too dumb to do math or something? Can you clarify what you mean here? It doesn't sound too well thought out.

Yes, you are good at putting words in others mouths. I have actually notified Guinness that you exist, but they keep telling me they checked you out and found you to be just a pocket of hot air.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

So government always takes bids from businesses made up of black people. And black people are too dumb to do math or something? Can you clarify what you mean here? It doesn't sound too well thought out.

It is very clear to me.

Many government bids are made on false metrics social justice concerns and purchasing votes than they are on actual costs, need or efficiency.

Take light rail, for example...

 

[mercury14]

If "real" business was dealing with a "real" customer, this would not happen.

Joke post?

 

[mercury14]

Yes, you are good at putting words in others mouths.

You just said part of the problem was hiring minority-owned/operated businesses. Explain what you mean, coward.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

And that's because Government always takes the lowest bid or the minority bid.


"You get what you pay for."

I dont know how it is now but what you say usta be the rule, IF YOU BLACK YOU GETS A CONTRACT.

But that shit backfired cuz every Nigga that bid on the same job didnt get picked. Only one Nigga won. So all the other Niggaz hadda compete for private enterprise jobs, and they learned how to do it, but the Niggaz that got the gubmint work didnt know how the game was played, and when the gubmint work played out they was screwed.

 

[fuckwaffle]

You just said part of the problem was hiring minority-owned/operated businesses. Explain what you mean, coward.

I did, Mr. Maturity, what are you twelve? "You get what you pay for." You want quality, you don't accept the lowest bidder. Plus the government has a mandate to hire minority contractors regardless of their qualifications, they just have to submit a bid. As you eloquent put the words in my mouth, I am not claiming minorities aren't capable workers, just that government has no controls in place to insure qualifications on minority bids.

But you'll put words in my mouth and that's okay, because I know you're as big bag of hot air and a blowhard expert on every fucking think in the world.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Every fucking thing.

 

[mercury14]

I did, Mr. Maturity, what are you twelve? "You get what you pay for." You want quality, you don't accept the lowest bidder. Plus the government has a mandate to hire minority contractors regardless of their qualifications, they just have to submit a bid. As you eloquent put the words in my mouth, I am not claiming minorities aren't capable workers, just that government has no controls in place to insure qualifications on minority bids.

But you'll put words in my mouth and that's okay, because I know you're as big bag of hot air and a blowhard expert on every fucking think in the world.

And if I ask you to show me this mandate you'll come up empty-handed and empty-minded as usual. But sure, show it to me.

You're devoid of all substance once again.