Mom hires stripper for son

[Guest]

Um, yeah.

Mom (and dad) hire stripper for their sixteen-year-old son's birthday party.

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/ns/news/story.jsp?idq=/ff/story/0001/20050529/0548333651.htm&sc=1120

I'll just bet this kid is the envy of all his friends.

 

[oggbashan]

In the UK it wouldn't be a crime if all those at the party were 16.

Og

 

[cantdog]

Not any more, since they're indicting the whole family.

[digression]

Someone brought their kid, 10, into the emergency room last night. They'd put him on an ATV, a four-wheeled soft-tired thing, and told him to go play. No helmet, no parental judgement, nothing. Brain dead.

There are laws, which is a laugh. By them, the kid was too young to be operating one. Other laws supposedly exist to deal with unfit parents. More hollow laughter.

This happens with depressing regularity. Just put the kid in a catapult and launch him at a junkyard. He'll be just as dead, and his friends won't be envious and pester their parents to be allowed to have the same fun.

Mom, sensing somehow that she was guilty of some monstrous crime, doubtless, was almost unhinged, screaming repeatedly at the emergency people to "Do something!" and calling them every name she could lay tongue to.

Not only did no one reply, "You're the one who murdered him, lady," but when the report of felony child abuse was made, they got the standard answer: There will be no file here on this case. The parents have suffered enough. The hospital staff knows they will always get that response, but there's a doc who does one and documents it each time. It was documents of that kind that finally put a fourth wheel on the things.

[/digression]

The pussy makes them throw the book at everyone; murdering your child impresses nobody.

 

[Guest]

 

[JRaven]

I think that most of us can agree that there's a very big difference between a stripper and an ATV. While there is certainly a connection between them regarding parental decisions, there's a difference between potential physical harm and potential warped views regarding sex.

In an age where many 16 year olds have already experienced sex, a stripper is probably no big deal. Granted, the kid may begin to view women as mere sex objects because of the event. Whether or not he has healthy views regarding sex is a decision his parents should make, not some politician.

As Oggbashan noted, in some countries 16 is an exceptable age for this. I've been around the world. I've noticed that America can be very prudish when it comes to sex.

I agree with Sarah, no doubt, this guy is probably the envy of his friends.

Jenny

 

[cantdog]

It demonstrates the futility of legislating in the face of the culture. Law is paper, custom is iron. Until it be seen as a violation of custom, no law can make it change.

The pussy is ringed about with taboos, in a supposedly civilized republic as much as in the society of the headhunters in New Guinea. Never mind that the ruling myth says that we were created in the image of the Godhead, which could hardly be obscene. Never mind that half the race has a pussy, so that seeing one should be entirely unremarkable. Never mind that the stripper in this case may actually have retained her g-string throughout. The press puts it in the front page, the cops bust the whole family and the stripper, the court, a serious institution with much to do, schedules a hearing on the charges. The pulpit clucks its tongue in disapproval. Just fuckin amazing.

Meanwhile, several companies make multimillions in profits yearly, selling these toys. They wreck any area they are used in. The process is slower than with dirt bikes, but more pervasive, since they are "All-Terrain." The toys are designed each year to be more over-powered, since that's their purpose: you get astride the seat and take risks, for the thrill. They make small ones, for kids. But the culture approves, whereas the culture cannot gaze down at their own bodies without horror at the obscenity.

 

[Guest]

I think that most of us can agree that there's a very big difference between a stripper and an ATV. While there is certainly a connection between them regarding parental decisions, there's a difference between potential physical harm and potential warped views regarding sex.

In an age where many 16 year olds have already experienced sex, a stripper is probably no big deal. Granted, the kid may begin to view women as mere sex objects because of the event. Whether or not he has healthy views regarding sex is a decision his parents should make, not some politician.

As Oggbashan noted, in some countries 16 is an exceptable age for this. I've been around the world. I've noticed that America can be very prudish when it comes to sex.

I agree with Sarah, no doubt, this guy is probably the envy of his friends.

Jenny

America is quite full of Puritanical hypocrites, I agree. Just look at the latest elections. But if I sent my son to a party and didn't know he was going to be given a lap dance by a stripper, I'd be furious.

Yes, most sixteen-year-olds have seen boobies. Probably. If not in real-life than in the many magazines they have stashed in their rooms (or borrowed from their dads).

But does this entire experience add to their objectification of women? Are they adult enough to understand that what they are seeing is not the norm for most women? Do they realize that this experience is not exactly what sex is all about?

My objection comes from minors not in that immediate family being included. That's probably why charges are being filed. Apparently you can (no pun intended) fuck up your own kids, but not the neighbors.

 

[angelicminx]

Good Samaritans...

I agree, if my 16 year-old attended a party and the entertainment was a stripper I didn't know about I would have been furious too. Parents retain the right to decide what their children see. I would have granted permission, but that isn't the point. It does anger me that the drug store employees turned them in. It's not as if a heinous crime was committed, just an act of poor judgement.

 

[JRaven]

I do agree about the part where the kids friends were involved. Yes, as a parent, I would want to be informed that the stripper would be there. I'd have given permission for my kids to be there. But I would still want to know about it.

As for the drugstore employees turning them in...
If they recieve film to be developed that involves child pornography, they are required by law in most states to report it. I'm guessing that is why they did. Let's face it, even here on Lit, that would be a picture that would be banned.

Jenny

 

[Svenskaflicka]

I remember an English film I saw a few years ago, where a woman and a trannie opened a brothel specializing in S/M. The woman brought her son their for his birthday (don't remember how much, 16? 17? 18?), and let one of her best girls take care of him.

I actually think it's not such a bad idea. I mean, she knew the woman, she knew they'd use condoms, and she knew that her son would have a really good first time.

Would I let my own kids (if I had any) watch a stripper? Yes, I would - once they turn 15, which is the age where Swedes may have sex. I would have a talk with my son, though, to make sure he understands the difference between "a little naughty fun" and "oppression of women". And as for my daughter, hell, I'd be there with her, embarrassing the **** out of her by making sure I got a lap dance with the male stripper!

 

[LadyJeanne]

Hmm. 16 year old boys can barely control their erections as it is. Can't imagine how inflamed they'd be after a stripper danced around them.

That's right boys, look, but don't touch! So cruel.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Hmm. 16 year old boys can barely control their erections as it is. Can't imagine how inflamed they'd be after a stripper danced around them.

That's right boys, look, but don't touch! So cruel.

...and here we have another reason why we DEFINITELY should hire strippers for young boys.

 

[oggbashan]

Hmm. 16 year old boys can barely control their erections as it is. Can't imagine how inflamed they'd be after a stripper danced around them.

That's right boys, look, but don't touch! So cruel.

Should begin to teach them self-control. In the UK parents are allowed to give alcohol to under 18s. The idea is to teach moderation. It doesn't work.

Og

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Should begin to teach them self-control. In the UK parents are allowed to give alcohol to under 18s. The idea is to teach moderation. It doesn't work.

Og

Neither does sexual self-control for men.

 

[logophile]

The pussy is ringed about with taboos, in a supposedly civilized republic as much as in the society of the headhunters in New Guinea. Never mind that the ruling myth says that we were created in the image of the Godhead, which could hardly be obscene. Never mind that half the race has a pussy, so that seeing one should be entirely unremarkable. Never mind that the stripper in this case may actually have retained her g-string throughout. The press puts it in the front page, the cops bust the whole family and the stripper, the court, a serious institution with much to do, schedules a hearing on the charges. The pulpit clucks its tongue in disapproval. Just fuckin amazing.

And this, my friend, is why I love you.
You're just fuckin amazing.

 

[cantdog]

Logo, I could wish it were less amazing to feel this way. I am clearly not a full participant in my own culture.

In the meantime, see what power the pussy has! One pussy seen in a g-string! Three arrests, court dates, worldwide news exposure, the talk of the town besides!

How must it be, ladies? To have in your control, always to hand, such a piece of social heavy ordnance?

 

[Belegon]

How must it be, ladies? To have in your control, always to hand, such a piece of social heavy ordnance?

They make me seem foolish all the time...not least the person you're replying to

 

[LadyJeanne]

How must it be, ladies? To have in your control, always to hand, such a piece of social heavy ordnance?

I never think of it that way.

But if I did, the power of the penis is more likely how I'd see it.

 

[Guest]

How must it be, ladies? To have in your control, always to hand, such a piece of social heavy ordnance?

It feels great.

On your knees, baby.

 

[Many Feathers]

Actually...

Um, yeah.

Mom (and dad) hire stripper for their sixteen-year-old son's birthday party.

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/ns/news/story.jsp?idq=/ff/story/0001/20050529/0548333651.htm&sc=1120

I'll just bet this kid is the envy of all his friends.

I have no problem with that.

 

[cantdog]

(i bet it does. I bet it tastes good, too.)

 

[cantdog]

I never think of it that way.

But if I did, the power of the penis is more likely how I'd see it.

In the RCC, the Southern Baptist Conference, the LDS churches and everywhere until just recently, you did need a penis to be a priest or a minister. I'm not sure what they were actually using the penis for in their work. But no one could do the job without one.

It would likely be blasphemous to imagine liturgical uses for the penis...

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

Actually, I believe the stripper in this case deserves to be charged.

This is her livelihood, and it is her job to know the legal ramifications of how she does it.

If the parents had brought their son into a bar to watch the stripper, the bar owner could have lost his liquor license. That she agreed to give a performance before minors (albeit in the home of her employer) she must have realized was an infraction of the law.

Either, she knew, and chose to disregard the law, (dumb though it may be.) or she didn’t know the law, which is no excuse.

The parents deserve some penalty for stupidity, too. Anyone who does not know not to take risque photographs to a consumer photo finisher needs a wake-up call. Why do they think Polaroids became so popular — people like paying high prices for bad quality, unreplicatable prints? Now, of course, they should have their own digital camera.

I don’t feel sorry for any of them, except the kid, whose (probably) first glimpse of snatch got plastered all over town, and his parents up on criminal charges.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

In the RCC, the Southern Baptist Conference, the LDS churches and everywhere until just recently, you did need a penis to be a priest or a minister. I'm not sure what they were actually using the penis for in their work. But no one could do the job without one.

It would likely be blasphemous to imagine liturgical uses for the penis...

Most jobs with a high salary seem to demand a penis. I've always been curious of what exactly they do that requires a few inches of dangling meat. I'd love to disguise and sneak into a board meeting!

 

[LadyJeanne]

Most jobs with a high salary seem to demand a penis. I've always been curious of what exactly they do that requires a few inches of dangling meat. I'd love to disguise and sneak into a board meeting!

They talk about golf.