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scouries

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SCOURIES BANNED…SCOURIES BANNED…

Dear The Conformist
Copy to: Laurel
Copy to: Manu


Mr. Conformist – THIS IS FROM ONE OF YOUR FEW POSTS I COULD FIND – BACK IN 2005…I have not barged in. I was put in place by Laurel. Yes I can be considered an alt. But does that matter? On this forum I have a particularly easy job. I have little to no spam to remove. There are few unrelated threads to this forum.

I will not intervene with differences in personal opinion. Not here, nor in PM.

I wish you all well and please continue to interact as the responsible adults you've proven yourselves to be.

I am here to keep the place free of spam, not interfere with your personal interaction. If any feel I have done you an injustice, I’d like to discuss this in PM.


Hey man, I would like to discuss it!

Christ! I go to Paris for four days and my thread is banished to SIBERIA!

You guys almost gave poor [size=+2]Gabby[/size] a frigging heart attack!

I clicked into LITEROTICA today and found my thread had been unceremoniously moved to the GENERAL BOARD. I’m not sure The Conformist if it was your decision or if you were simply following orders from the gods upstairs. I’d appreciate knowing if the decision was yours or somebody else’s.

I would also appreciate receiving the reason for its removal if it was your decision. I must say it seems strange to me that a thread that was first posted back in early May and has received over 1000 replies and 15,000 views should all of a sudden be yanked. Especially in light of the fact that over the last month or so it had lost much of the ugly vitriol that characterized its early days.

Is there a reason? Quite frankly I would have much preferred it if you’d had the courtesy to tell me first or at least had advised me of your reasons after having done it. It was simply RUDE of you, or whoever made the decision, not to advise me. And please, don’t claim to having no time, as you said in one of the few posts you’ve made (see above), the STORY FEEDBACK forum moderators job “is a particularly easy job”. Like invisible!

This is to advise you that I want to

[size=+2]FORMALLY CHALLENGE YOUR DECISION[/size]

Knowing the standards of fair play and free speech that this site and its owners continually espouse I’m sure there must be some sort of appeals process available to challenge decisions of this sort. Please advise me how I should proceed.


We all know that my thread (The SCOURIES reader - for both fans and serious scholars…) belongs where it was in the STORY FEEDBACK forum. In fact, given that the most popular threads in the forum are the NIPPLE one and the new PUSSY one (by the way, what they have to do with story feedback has always baffled me), it would be hard for anyone to argue that a thread that actually has STORY REVIEWS in it (albeit written by the author), FEEDBACK ON CONTEST STORIES, SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO IMPROVE THE SITE and FEEDBACK from readers, belongs somewhere else while a threadful of nipples is perfectly acceptable.

C’mon man, Bowing to the mob isn’t pleasant to watch, especially from a group that has always espoused freedom of speech. You embarrass yourself and the sites owners.

* * * * *​

Re your role as moderator THE CONFORMIST:

I’m not sure what the role of a MODERATOR is but in this case you’ve been an utter and total failure. As I said in a post a long, long time ago on the thread, I’d never imagined it would be much more than a thread where I posted my story reviews and my opinions. A quite simple thread much like two or three others that various other authors have started (i.e. maharat and oily).

I even asked from post one that people: PLEASE DO NOT POST REPLIES ON THE THREAD. I understood that certain AHers, who still were licking their wounds, their fragile egos bruised, harbored some anger over my 2006 NUDE DAY CONTEST thread so I chose to post in the STORY FEEDBACK FORUM instead of the AUTHORS HANGOUT (the only two forums that were possible choices). I encouraged people to put me on ignore.

As moderator you’ve said nothing, and in fact seemed quite happy to tolerate both hateful and ugly comments from your friends (I list some of them below just in case you’ve forgotten). There is a vast difference between FREE SPEECH and hate posts by the way. That’s maybe why we have a moderator in the first place.

You also allowed incredible latitude to certain of your friends letting them create “ALTS” that you simply watched as they spewed forth their filth and fanned the flames from both sides. Small people. You and your masters know who they are (it’s obvious that if Manu can figure out if someone’s voted twice on a story he can surely figure out which ‘Alt’ belongs to who) – how many are your friends? How many did you encourage? You did nothing!

You even went so far as to allow someone to use the alt “scouries_” and actually try to pose as me. I can’t imagine the outcry if someone chose “manu_” or “cloudy_” or “The Conformist_” or “DanielleKitten_” as an alt and then started posting comments that included the copyrighted work of the original author. You should have stepped in then. Quite simply you didn’t.

And not surprisingly no one protested! I’ve never complained but you should be ashamed of your performance. That was your job as MODERATOR!

And as to that rat pack of AHers who’ve continually sniped and complained to the bosses, who continually profess to being on a much higher road than the rest of us in LiteroticaLand, the heck with them. Sad people who spend hour after hour on a sex site while pretending to themselves they’re great writers. Who’ll do anything to get views and votes for their stories while holding those same viewers and voters in disdain. How funny is that?

james r scouries

here’s the mob – it’s too bad you didn’t do any moderating of this earlier. And this doesn’t include the crap from the clown ‘alts’.

[SIZE=+2]THE MOB[/SIZE]

JUST SOME UGLY COMMENTS

Post #6 Trombonus – Wow, you must be incredibly important...Who are you again?

Post #29 Severusmax – Of course, to him, money is the object… He's a bit off his gourd, don't you think? Bananas would be good for his health and sanity

Post #37 Cloudy – For someone who labels himself with such superlatives that you've used here, you really don't know much, do you? Bless its heart.

Post #41 Yevkassem72 – Imbecile.

Post #49 Cloudy – Dear lord, quit taking yourself, and scouries so seriously! No one else does

Post #62 FatDino – Oh, I won't say Scouries is a poor writer so soon… So I think "poor" would make an inappropriate word here. May I suggest using something else like "having a mental malfunction?"

Post #100 Severusmax – You're not a writer. You're just a wannabe

Post #103 BarberouSevil –…And you certainly wouldn't want to have the paramedics find you with your lips wrapped around her intake valve, having perished of a heart attack. Clean underwear or not.

Post #116 Yevkassem72 – He's just a nut, Poppy. Don't worry about him too much

Post #168 fcdc – Man, you're chickenshit

Post #171 Mikey2Much – I agree with you that he gets close to the lunatic fringe with some of his ideas

Post #204 SelenaKyttyn – .. it happens to everyone who can see a glimmer of sanity in Scouries' rants...

Post #210 Stella Omega – The poor frog only wants to find a small pond to be big in

Post #228 FatDino – You make me sick.

Post #260 Yevkassem72 – He really is self-absorbed, isn't he?

Post #261 SelenaKyttyn – …and we'll always be better than you are... Oh right, he's only written unpublishable tripe, my mistake...

Post #281 Adi87 – Scouries 'SIR' with due respect, GET OVER YOURSELF

Post #285 Jenny Jackson – I bet if you commented on one of his stories, he'd send you a dick pic

Post #304 Vandren – the sheer narcissistic self-absorption present in the thread "owner's" posts

Post #313 Cloudy – People like him always think they're above any rules

Post #317 Hallowed Eve – Moron. It has to be YOUR artwork, not someone else's

Post #364 SweetWitch – …“scours” is, by definition, a symptom of many diseases that farm animals get. It is severe diarrhea that leads to death….. You have diarrhea of the mouth… you are the grand-high poobah of upper butt crack… this will be my only post directed at you

Post #368 ColleyJen – you mindless twit

Post #372 SelenaKyttyn – it's his social skills which seem... er... somewhat lacking, to me...

Post #402 Onida – Can there really be anyone as narcissistic as this person?

Post #477 Moonman – It's one thing to pimp your own work, but when you start impuning the integrity of other writers around here, it's time to stand up and tell you to FUCK RIGHT OFF!

Post #490 Cloudy – I made the mistake of thinking you were quasi-intelligent

Post #491 CeriseNoir – …I guess that's 43 voices accounted for in that imaginary world of yours now?

Post #517 Onida – I mean, seriously, the guy’s delusional and needs to be heavily medicated… Isn’t there a place where they lock such people up so they don’t hurt themselves?

Post #525 Fazilkotuk – So, how does scouries's butt-crack smell, anyway?

Post #528 Moonman – A sad, petulant, jealous, egotist

Post #556 Sweetwitch – act like nasty little pups. Add to that a tiny... penis... and you have the makings of yipping little mutt that needs to be kenneled. Perhaps someone should take him to the vet and have him fixed?

Post #558 Moonman – And here I thought he was the biggest dick around

Post #614 Sweetwitch – I thought you were a jerk, but now I know you’re just a pathetic child

Post #622 Sweetwitch – You poor, deluded man. ..I'm putting you on the pay-no-mind list

Post #623 AsylemSeeker – Take A Sip Of His Benolent Prick Sorry, not believing it. Another example of a wannabe that is left lacking. Put a hint of your "riches" in my pocket and I''be more accepting

Post #691 DK - You are a sick man, get help now before it's too late.

Post #703 cloudy – yes, and you, my dear, are a chihuahua - one of those little rats that do nothing but shake and piss, and yap, yap, yap…..By the way, how far did you go in school before you had to quit, and pick tobacky?

Post #708 darkboy – You're a one-trick pony, and your trick isn't even that good.

Post #723 cloudy – Once upon a time, there was an ugly old man who lived all by himself, with only his racist fantasies for company. ….He died

Post #759 unpredictablebijou – Oh, Scurvies, you just make me giggle like a schoolgirl, you do. Adorable! The last time I met a pig your size I was at the State Fair. He was pretty smart too, just like you
 
to The Conformist

hey guy, I tried to send you the above in a PM or e-mail but you don't accept either - makes it tough to communicate with you
 
For whatever reason my PMs were turned off. As far as the thread getting moved to the GB, I have received many complaints about it from numerous people. Your thread was disruptive to the nature of the board. As far as any favortism towards any particular thread/topic/poster there is none.

I read the threads that I receive complaints on and take action as appropriate. Some threads are moved before I can take action. I have a full time job and some things stick around longer than others. I have just returned from an extended period of time working out of the country. This affected my Moderator abilities due to content of the website and that country's policy on adult conent.
 
Like the Comformist, I'm busy too, so I have no time to keep track on the drama

All I know is that scouries is writing large walls of text and taking things a bit too seriously for a forum about rather meaningless fun stories

Edit: Scouries, if that's a real picture of you, then I will have 5 percent more respect for you
 
scouries said:
And as to that rat pack of AHers who’ve continually sniped and complained to the bosses, who continually profess to being on a much higher road than the rest of us in LiteroticaLand, the heck with them. Sad people who spend hour after hour on a sex site while pretending to themselves they’re great writers. Who’ll do anything to get views and votes for their stories while holding those same viewers and voters in disdain. How funny is that?

So much for free speech on a fucking porn site that supposedly promotes free speech. The same ones doing the complaining are the same ones selling books where the profits supposedly go to free speech causes. This site is free speech as long as you kiss CLUB (Chatter Like Uppity Biddies) ass. Talk about the ultimate hypocrisy.
 
Scribbled said:
So much for free speech on a fucking porn site that supposedly promotes free speech. The same ones doing the complaining are the same ones selling books where the profits supposedly go to free speech causes. This site is free speech as long as you kiss CLUB (Chatter Like Uppity Biddies) ass. Talk about the ultimate hypocrisy.

the thread wasn't deleted, it was just moved.

Dumbass.
 
Scribbled said:
So much for free speech on a fucking porn site that supposedly promotes free speech. The same ones doing the complaining are the same ones selling books where the profits supposedly go to free speech causes. This site is free speech as long as you kiss CLUB (Chatter Like Uppity Biddies) ass. Talk about the ultimate hypocrisy.

Exactly how was Scouries "free speech" denied? He has neither been banned from the site, nor has his thread been deleted. All that has happened is his thread has been moved to a more appropriate venue.

The only hypocrisy is your use of an alt.
 
mr moderator

DearThe Conformist

I would like to make a few points. First, thanks for replying to my post.

Re your:-For whatever reason my PMs were turned off.

-As far as the thread getting moved to the GB, I have received many complaints about it from numerous people.


I’m not trying to be funny but how did you receive any complaints about it if you were out of the country and your PMs were turned off and you weren’t accepting e-mails? Sure, okay, cloudy could have sent smoke signals but how many other…

I’d love to know how many complaints you actually did receive.

And just moving it into somebody else’s backyard doesn’t sound like the most intelligent resolution of a problem. If there is something in the thread that makes it inadmissible the obvious answer is either to kill the thread completely or address the problems. You did neither. You passed the buck.


-Your thread was disruptive to the nature of the board.

The nature of he board? A scary concept. Especially coming from someone who calls himself The Conformist and who has just spent a significant time in a country where there apparently was no freedom of expression. Looking at the threads that daily cross this forum it would be very hard to categorize this forum as having any “nature”.

And threads Mr. Conformist sometimes are disruptive. That’s the beauty of them. Sometimes I am a bit of a shit disturber – guilty as charged. However, given the content of my thread, I’d still like to hear how you justify the moving of it to the GENERAL BOARD. If you had moved it to the AUTHORS HANGOUT I might have grumbled but it wouldn’t have been a big issue.

To those that don’t like the thread (or me, or my opinions) there always was a simple alternative – just put me on ignore. In fact I was repeatedly told by half of AH land that I’d been put on their ignore lists. There were even repeated pacts among the complainers to not post on the thread. So who was left to complain to you? And why complain if they weren’t reading it?

That wasn’t good enough for them though. The complainers were more insidious – not only did they not want to read what I had to say, they didn’t want anyone else to be able to. And that dear sir is CENSORSHIP – pure and simple. And you’ve become the censor.

And now the poor dears have nothing to complain about. Yeah, right!


-As far as any favoritism towards any particular thread/topic/poster there is none.

Don’t be silly. If you ship my thread (and others) out and allow others to stay that is favoritism. For whatever reason.

-I read the threads that I receive complaints on and take action as appropriate.
-Some threads are moved before I can take action.


The two preceding lines put back to back like this confused me. I’m not sure after reading them if it was you who took action or whether my thread was moved before you took action. Could you tell me if it was it you who removed the thread? If not please direct me to the person who did make the decision.

-I have a full time job and some things stick around longer than others.
-I have just returned from an extended period of time working out of the country.
-This affected my Moderator abilities due to content of the website and that country's policy on adult content.


I’m sorry but multiple excuses always make me uneasy. My daddy told me long ago to never trust someone who gives you two or three excuses when a real one will do.

Sir, I still have the following questions (and am quite prepared to discuss them privately in PM if you prefer):

1 – Is there any avenue of appeal open to challenge the decision?

2 – Am I allowed to start other threads in this forum?

3 – Is my Literotica’s All-Time Most Votes Received List thread also in threat of being censored? I’m quite sure you’ve got complaints on it too (Although the peanut gallery seems to be leaving it alone for the moment). In future it is going to be used to announce new Literotica stories by 1000+ VOTE authors and ask for feedback on them. FYI - I have received backing and help from some of Literotica’s greatest authors in the gathering of the information on the list (i.e. rgjohn, TryAnything, sarahhh, William_Sexspear, nikki_2021, among others). Writers who are quite happy to see my list and whose opinions should be balanced against the complainers.

4 – Is a threads admissibility based on the content the THREADMASTER (for lack of better term) includes or by the quality of the posts by other repliers?

5 – You wrote back in 2005 – I will not intervene with differences in personal opinion. Not here, nor in PM... I am here to keep the place free of spam, not interfere with your personal interaction. Has that guiding principal now been changed in your MODERATING of this forum? If so, what are your new ones?

6 – Are you going to be able to moderate on a timely basis now that you’re back in the country?

7 – Are you (or the Literotica bosses) planning on doing anything to eliminate the “HATE CRIME” posters as I like to call them. On this thread there were quite a number – scribbled, darkniciad, scouries_ (the imposter), cloudy, TruthorDare, AveryReynolds, theAntiKKK, SweetWitch, AnonomousTroll, just to name a few. Getting rid of this jetsam and flotsam would do more to improve the “nature” of this forum than any amount of transferring threads out that you plan to do in the future.

*****​

Finally, I’d just like to ask those that complained to The Conformist to stand up and be counted. He says he received “many complaints from numerous people” about my thread. I’m sure he’s not prepared to disclose who made them…or when…or even how the complaints got through his no-communication zone….but why don’t you take this opportunity to post on this thread the complaints you sent him.
 
scouries said:
Is my Literotica’s All-Time Most Votes Received List thread also in threat of being censored? I’m quite sure you’ve got complaints on it too (Although the peanut gallery seems to be leaving it alone for the moment). In future it is going to be used to announce new Literotica stories by 1000+ VOTE authors and ask for feedback on them. FYI - I have received backing and help from some of Literotica’s greatest authors in the gathering of the information on the list (i.e. rgjohn, TryAnything, sarahhh, William_Sexspear, nikki_2021, among others). Writers who are quite happy to see my list and whose opinions should be balanced against the complainers.

And what about my right of privacy, Scouries? I requested on at least three seperate occasions to be removed from your 1000 Vote Club, a request that you continually ignored. I have never advertised my work, and don't want it advertised.
 
I also found the response from the moderator a little curious (especially that I can't receive messages/I got complaints mismatch). But this isn't about banning (which, of course, I wouldn't agree with). The threads haven't been deleted--they've been moved. And at least one is in AH now, which is better placement than the general board.

There is the point, though, I think that Scouries's promotion threads based on statistical superlatives, albeit irritating in their screaming fonts and multi-alt over-the-top circus shilling, are no more out of place on the Feedback board than are all of those threads (mine included) pointing to (and thus promoting) our Halloween contest stories and their other posted stories (asking for feedback, as in "go and vote me a 5"). And as Starkkers pointed out, why the hell are the Nipples and Pussy threads here if Scouries's are going to be moved?

As I posted before, I think most of the contentiousness in Scouries's threads here was "contentious" because others rose to innocuously (and cleverly) scattered bait and made the threads contentious themselves (and probably enjoyed doing so, thus, as Scouries posting, making the forum lively).
 
The Conformist said:
For whatever reason my PMs were turned off. As far as the thread getting moved to the GB, I have received many complaints about it from numerous people. Your thread was disruptive to the nature of the board. As far as any favortism towards any particular thread/topic/poster there is none.

I read the threads that I receive complaints on and take action as appropriate. Some threads are moved before I can take action. I have a full time job and some things stick around longer than others. I have just returned from an extended period of time working out of the country. This affected my Moderator abilities due to content of the website and that country's policy on adult conent.
I'd like to point out that you put it in the wrong forum-- the Authors hangout is a place where this gentleman will be supremely uncomfortable.
 
Stella_Omega said:
I'd like to point out that you put it in the wrong forum-- the Authors hangout is a place where this gentleman will be supremely uncomfortable.

Why, because the AHers will gangbang him? Seems as though most of you did on the thread in question without much success. I don't see how more like you would make much of a difference.
 
drksideofthemoon said:
And what about my right of privacy, Scouries? I requested on at least three seperate occasions to be removed from your 1000 Vote Club, a request that you continually ignored. I have never advertised my work, and don't want it advertised.

I call Drama Queen. Your whining is worse than fingernails screeching on a blackboard. People in real life get put on lists all the time. Did Britney and Paris whine like little bitches about tying for first on Mr. Blackwell's Worst Dressed List for 2007? Oh hell no.
 
Scribbled said:
I call Drama Queen. Your whining is worse than fingernails screeching on a blackboard. People in real life get put on lists all the time. Did Britney and Paris whine like little bitches about tying for first on Mr. Blackwell's Worst Dressed List for 2007? Oh hell no.

No, they just sunk deeper into their respective substance abuse problems and got DUIs.
 
cloudy said:
the thread wasn't deleted, it was just moved.

Dumbass.

This sequence of 9-14-07 posts over on THE WATERCOOLER sticky thread at the top of the Editor’s Forum is the funniest damn thing on the subject of censorship I’ve seen on this fucking porn site.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Max ODrive
The NEXT, and biggest mistake is the belief that this forum is a "democracy" and is all about "free speech" and "freedom of expression"..

Quote:
Originally Posted by cloudy
You're quite right, but what you don't seem to realize is that Laurel and Manu (the owners of this site) are complete and total believers in free speech, and they don't shut things down just because some of us get obnoxious every once in awhile.

Posted in response to cloudy by sr71plt who had posts arbitrarily and capriciously deleted by LadyCibelle:

I sense that's quite true. Of course it isn't true of all of their "moderators." The evidence sits there that Lady C will erase posts selectively to meet her vendetta agenda. Which, of course, contravenes the posted rules of the site--which are very hard to violate because they are quite loose.

But then it's very hard for self-selected queens of the board and other cyber bullies to deal with even mild refusal to be bullied or tastes of their own "medicine."
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Fake Indian speak with forked tongue.

Yours truly,

Shitting_Bull
(a Real Indian)
 
The Conformist said:
For whatever reason my PMs were turned off. As far as the thread getting moved to the GB, I have received many complaints about it from numerous people. Your thread was disruptive to the nature of the board. As far as any favortism towards any particular thread/topic/poster there is none.

I read the threads that I receive complaints on and take action as appropriate. Some threads are moved before I can take action. I have a full time job and some things stick around longer than others. I have just returned from an extended period of time working out of the country. This affected my Moderator abilities due to content of the website and that country's policy on adult conent.

I nominate scouries to replace your sorry ass as moderator of this forum. What good is a moderator who won't answer questions or address issues?
 
Excellant moderator!!!

There seems to be some confusion among posters as to my opinion of the work of our MODERATOR The Conformist.

We have taken our discussion of his removal of my thread offline. And while I may not agree with his decision to move my thread, nor some of the reasoning behind it, I would like to say the following: The Conformist addressed my complaint in a timely matter as well as answered all my questions in a frank and open manner. to my great surprise and delight!

Quite simply, LITEROTICA needs more people like him. The only reason to remove him from his position of MODERATOR of this thread would be so we could give him a promotion.

If all of the LITEROTICA team were as forthcoming the world would be a better place. Let’s make him DIRECTOR of MEMBERSHIP COMMUNICATION and COMPLAINTS.

james r scouries
 
scouries said:
There seems to be some confusion among posters as to my opinion of the work of our MODERATOR The Conformist.

We have taken our discussion of his removal of my thread offline. And while I may not agree with his decision to move my thread, nor some of the reasoning behind it, I would like to say the following: The Conformist addressed my complaint in a timely matter as well as answered all my questions in a frank and open manner. to my great surprise and delight!

Quite simply, LITEROTICA needs more people like him. The only reason to remove him from his position of MODERATOR of this thread would be so we could give him a promotion.

If all of the LITEROTICA team were as forthcoming the world would be a better place. Let’s make him DIRECTOR of MEMBERSHIP COMMUNICATION and COMPLAINTS.

james r scouries

Ooh! Let's watch all the ass-kissers, and see how fast their opinions change. :rolleyes:

Not one of them knows how to think for their damned selves.
 
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scouries said:
There seems to be some confusion among posters as to my opinion of the work of our MODERATOR The Conformist.

We have taken our discussion of his removal of my thread offline. And while I may not agree with his decision to move my thread, nor some of the reasoning behind it, I would like to say the following: The Conformist addressed my complaint in a timely matter as well as answered all my questions in a frank and open manner. to my great surprise and delight!

Quite simply, LITEROTICA needs more people like him. The only reason to remove him from his position of MODERATOR of this thread would be so we could give him a promotion.

If all of the LITEROTICA team were as forthcoming the world would be a better place. Let’s make him DIRECTOR of MEMBERSHIP COMMUNICATION and COMPLAINTS.

james r scouries

How do you know for sure The Conformist isn't cloudy in drag? She's just about everybody else.

Yours truly,

Shitting_Bull
(A REAL Indian)
 
Shitting_Bull said:
How do you know for sure The Conformist isn't cloudy in drag? She's just about everybody else.

Yours truly,

Shitting_Bull
(A REAL Indian)

Oh, look. There's one now.
 
cloudy said:
Oh, look. There's one now.

Which one of your 29,533 posts do you like the most? You should be a moderator since you don't have a life. No wait, you already are.
 
Scribbled said:
Which one of your 29,533 posts do you like the most? You should be a moderator since you don't have a life. No wait, you already are.

http://darken.0catch.com/hotlink/kissass.gif

There's number 2, for those of you playing along at home. If you got this one right, award yourself 20 points and advance to the next level.

Hell, if you got it wrong, go ahead and award yourself 20 points and advance to the next level. It is a scouries thread, after all. He spends all day awarding himself points he hasn't earned :p
 
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Darkniciad said:
There's number 2, for those of you playing along at home. If you got this one right, award yourself 20 points and advance to the next level.

Hell, if you got it wrong, go ahead and award yourself 20 points and advance to the next level. It is a scouries thread, after all. He spends all day awarding himself points he hasn't earned :p
*snickers*
 
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