Mixing incest with 'Vouyer' category stories?

[MayorReynolds]

I am currently brainstorming/freewriting a Voyeur/Exhibitionist category story where the main character discovers her neighbors are up to sexual activity and begins spying on them. I'm trying to come up with possibilities for naughty things she witnesses them doing and one of the ideas that popped into my head was incest.

I know incest is a popular category on this site, but I'm not sure how people feel about mixing it into stories placed in other categories. In other words, is 'Incest' a theme that should stay in its own labeled lane?

 

[AlinaX]

I think if the story is primarily about the relationship, then it has to be in Incest, but I've had a number of stories in other categories where there is incest (or sort-of incest) content. I've taken to adding:

Content Warning: Incest

at the start, which Laurel adds anyway if I don't.

 

[SimonDoom]

If your story features incest, it should go in the Incest/Taboo category. Incest is a "trump" category, and that's where incest stories belong almost all the time, regardless what other elements the story contains.

It's not entirely clear what sort of story you are writing. I have written incest stories that contain strong voyeur and exhibitionist elements. I published them in Incest, and they did well there. Exhibitionism and voyeurism are flexible kinks -- you can add them to almost any kind of story and they can blend successfully with just about anything. But if you combine E&V with incest, put the story in Incest.

The audience is much bigger in I/T, too.

 

[astuffedshirt_perv]

... the main character discovers her neighbors are up to sexual activity and begins spying on them. ...one of the ideas that popped into my head was incest.

If it is written like "my jaw dropped as I saw through the window jenny taking off her top in front of mark...weren't they brother and sister?" then I would say that is solidly voyeur

 

[LexxRuthless]

I am currently brainstorming/freewriting a Voyeur/Exhibitionist category story where the main character discovers her neighbors are up to sexual activity and begins spying on them. I'm trying to come up with possibilities for naughty things she witnesses them doing and one of the ideas that popped into my head was incest.

I know incest is a popular category on this site, but I'm not sure how people feel about mixing it into stories placed in other categories. In other words, is 'Incest' a theme that should stay in its own labeled lane?

If your story features incest, it should go in the Incest/Taboo category. Incest is a "trump" category, and that's where incest stories belong almost all the time, regardless what other elements the story contains.

It's not entirely clear what sort of story you are writing. I have written incest stories that contain strong voyeur and exhibitionist elements. I published them in Incest, and they did well there. Exhibitionism and voyeurism are flexible kinks -- you can add them to almost any kind of story and they can blend successfully with just about anything. But if you combine E&V with incest, put the story in Incest.

The audience is much bigger in I/T, too.

If it's well-written, such a story will be well-received in the Incest / Taboo category. In addition to I/T being a "trump" category (meaning Laurel will likely post your story in that category anyway, even if you submit it as E/V) bear in mind that includes sex between in-laws. If you were contemplating just a single fleeting scene in which the main character observes an incestuous coupling, and you DON'T want the story to wind up in the I/T category, just write it in such a way that leaves it uncertain.

"Maddie sucked in a shocked breath as she watched Mark slamming his dick into the naked woman on the bed. The woman's loud cries made it clear she enjoyed every powerful thrust. Maddie's eyes widened in stunned disbelief. Wait...was that Mark's mother lying on the bed and getting pounded like that? It was doubly shocking for Maddie because she could not believe how much the thought turned her on. Of course, she would never be certain because she never saw the woman on the bed turn over..."

Something like that you could probably get away with submitting as a Voyeur story rather than I/T, since the focus is clearly on the voyeurism and the incest is only implied.

 

[KeithD]

Voyeur isn't all that strong and individualistic of a theme and I/T is, so I'd go with I/T.

 

[LupusDei]

Voyeur isn't all that strong and individualistic of a theme and I/T is, so I'd go with I/T.

Not necessarily. Voyeur/exhibitionism can be very specific and and even have limited or no actual sex (as in PiV).

Or, for example, one's voyeur's habits are triggered initially by watching sister, but it never develops any further and the central relationship develops with a neighbor.

Or, the story is about introducing new partner to nudism while a totaly shameless sister is running around simultaneously helping and complicating things, but while there's clearly no modesty between siblings, there's no sexuality either.

Yes, those both are examples of stories I might someday write, and readership benefits be damned I would be mad if they were forced into incest category (were they probably wouldn't find much love as the kink, while present, is sorely under-exploded).

 

[KeithD]

Not necessarily. Voyeur/exhibitionism can be very specific and and even have limited or no actual sex (as in PiV).

"Not necessarily" goes in different directions. I chose where I think it goes in relationship to I/T in how the OP question was given. The OP specifies that there is sexual activity being observed. I'll stick with the issue as the OP gave it. If the OP wants to identify the proportion of the mix of these two, then the conclusion might be different. As the categories stand otherwise at Literotica, I/T has been shown to be a trump category and Voyeur has not.

 

[lovecraft68]

Not necessarily. Voyeur/exhibitionism can be very specific and and even have limited or no actual sex (as in PiV).

Or, for example, one's voyeur's habits are triggered initially by watching sister, but it never develops any further and the central relationship develops with a neighbor.

Or, the story is about introducing new partner to nudism while a totaly shameless sister is running around simultaneously helping and complicating things, but while there's clearly no modesty between siblings, there's no sexuality either.

Yes, those both are examples of stories I might someday write, and readership benefits be damned I would be mad if they were forced into incest category (were they probably wouldn't find much love as the kink, while present, is sorely under-exploded).

I agree with you in principle.

However, three things will have a knee jerk reaction if put anywhere but their category
Incest
Non con
Gay male.

For a dirty story site lit seems to have a lot of thin skinned easily outraged sorts, and if you write a story some guy was watching his sister have sex, and put it in E/V I believe you're going to get hosed. Even watching his sister run around naked is still going to get the "WTF its his sister" from a lot of people.

Now you're saying readership be damned, and that's fine, but I mention it because some people don't like to be flamed and one bombed.

Now...would a brother watching his sister have sex fly in incest? Sure, with enough detail, and maybe some arousal on the brother's part even tinged with "What's wrong with me?" Billy thought. "This is my sister, why am I watching?"

 

[LupusDei]

Now...would a brother watching his sister have sex fly in incest? Sure, with enough detail, and maybe some arousal on the brother's part even tinged with "What's wrong with me?" Billy thought. "This is my sister, why am I watching?"

You're right, of course. It's just that, I consider my core kink to be voyeur, and I'm finding very few stories in e/v category exactly to my liking and if I ever would write my stories I would want them there.

Then, that damn sister...

...and I find myself mulling about ways to artificially increase incest content to a point it wouldn't feel wasted for that specific category. No doubts, that's a hot story, but that's a new story.

Site policies shouldn't affect unwritten stories, but somehow unwittingly and rather inescapably they do, and that's infuriating.

 

[lovecraft68]

You're right, of course. It's just that, I consider my core kink to be voyeur, and I'm finding very few stories in e/v category exactly to my liking and if I ever would write my stories I would want them there.

Then, that damn sister...

...and I find myself mulling about ways to artificially increase incest content to a point it wouldn't feel wasted for that specific category. No doubts, that's a hot story, but that's a new story.

Site policies shouldn't affect unwritten stories, but somehow unwittingly and rather inescapably they do, and that's infuriating.

I learned early here that for a site filled with people with dirty minds who like sexually adventurous stories many also want them in this neatly wrapped same old same old predictable no surprises box.

I wrote a long brother sister series that contained
Hardcore BDSM sex
Drug addiction
Abuse
mental illness
Satanism
and while my stories were getting 50 votes a chapter stories like "Sis has tits!" were getting 500....but I wrote it my way, and that was more important than the numbers.

I'm not alone in that, but it seems as time goes on I see a lot more what does the reader like, score obsessed writers coming here than people interested in doing their own thing.

 

[RetroFan]

I think that incestuous voyeurism would probably be placed in the incest rather than the exhibitionist voyeur category of stories, even if there is no actual incest. Last year I wrote a story about where a young man gets a crush on his foster sister, and engages in voyeurism with her, going through her dirty panties, up-skirting her and watching her having sex with her boyfriend in a forest. There is no direct sexual contact between the two, and they are foster siblings so not biologically related, but regardless it was put into Incest/Taboo.

Most stories involving Incest/Taboo are put into this category, however from what I have observed there can be some exceptions where the story might go into another category although with a warning that the story contains incest such as:

MORE EXTREME FETISHES - Minor fetishes such as foot fetishes would go into IT, but something more extreme such as a Hucow fetish where a 22-year-old woman breastfeeds her 18-year-old brother would probably go into Fetish.

EROTIC HORROR/SUPERNATURAL - If there was a story about an 18-year-old twin brother and sister where the sister is a witch who has magical powers and the brother has no such powers, and this rather than the incest is the main focus of the story it might go into this category.

SCIENCE FICTION - A story where a brother and sister are abducted by a UFO, given an aphrodisiac by the aliens so they screw uncontrollably and the aliens can observe humans having sexual intercourse might fit into this category. Likewise a story about a 19-year-old guy in the present day who travels back in time to the early 1990s and has sex with his mother when she was an attractive 19-year-old college student.

 

[KeithD]

Incest stories with GM action will get slaughtered going anywhere but GM.

 

[AlinaX]

Mind Control has a lot of incest content. I've also had a couple in Toys & Masturbation and a couple in Sci-Fi, and one in Letters & Transcripts.

 

[LexxRuthless]

SCIENCE FICTION - A story where a brother and sister are abducted by a UFO, given an aphrodisiac by the aliens so they screw uncontrollably and the aliens can observe humans having sexual intercourse might fit into this category. Likewise a story about a 19-year-old guy in the present day who travels back in time to the early 1990s and has sex with his mother when she was an attractive 19-year-old college student.

Nope. That story wound up in I/T even though it was clearly part of a much larger Sci-fi "universe" of stories.