Mississippi has really let Jackson down... no clean water at all, indefinitely

[butters]

the $4.4B President Biden's Infrastructure bill sent to Mississippi and the almost $75M of that designated for water infrastructure was parceled out by those in power in Miss.
Jackson's water system problems have been going on for decades, and consistently ignored. Kicked down the road. Jackson received only a fraction of what it now needs to repair its system... now it needs around $1.7B

EPA Administrator Michael Regan said states should prioritize underserved communities, calling the law "a historic opportunity to correct longstanding environmental and economic injustices across America... Every state in America has disadvantaged communities - rural, urban, suburban - that have deeply rooted water challenges, whether it is too much, too little, or poor-quality water,” Regan said in a letter to governors Thursday. “These communities have never received their fair share of federal water infrastructure funding."

Regan acknowledged Jackson was one of several areas with existing “critical water infrastructure needs”

the EPA administrator toured Jackson’s O.B. Curtis Water Treatment Plant during a stop on his “Journey for Justice” tour, with the intent of raising awareness about “environmental justice concerns in historically marginalized communities, and hear firsthand from residents dealing with the severe impacts of pollution in those areas.”

The EPA examined Jackson’s water treatment plants in February 2020 at the behest of the Mississippi State Department of Health. The federal agency found conditions at the plants presented “an imminent and substantial endangerment to the persons served by the system.”
The EPA subsequently sent the city an emergency order over the water system in March 2020, along with notices of noncompliance in May 2020 and April 2021.

https://www.jacksonfreepress.com/ne...sippi-receive-nearly-75m-infrastructure-fund/


this, from well over a year ago:

One of the things that I’ve read about Jackson was the mayor was quoted and he talks about how brittle the pipes were. The infrastructure that was probably put in Jackson was put in there when Jackson was white predominantly. It probably has not been replaced, and the local community cannot afford to replace it. But we have to do something about this because Jackson’s not the only one. It’s like with Flint and the lead problem. Flint was just the canary in the coal mine. There’s lead issues throughout the United States that have not been addressed. And likewise, there are infrastructure water issues throughout the United States. When you look at Jackson, Jackson was also the convergence of poor infrastructure and climate change. We’re going to see more climate events, but these extreme weather patterns are going to expose, like COVID did, all of these disparities as it relates to infrastructure issues.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics...-crisis-racial-justice-black-communities.html

 

[Escierto]

Jackson is a largely black city in a racist state. What I don’t understand is why we send a single penny to these assholes. Fuck them and their KKK shit. I wish Grant and Sherman had exterminated them back in 1865.

 

[jaF0]

Hardly an underserved community ....

"Mississippi is the 32nd largest and 35th-most populous of the 50 U.S. states and has the lowest per-capita income in the United States. Jackson is both the state's capital and largest city. Greater Jackson is the state's most populous metropolitan area, with a population of 591,978 in 2020."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi


However, Reeves is an out and out asshole, so the timing may be good to get him out next year.

Mississippians Outraged As Tate Reeves Receives Fresh Water Truck Amid Water Crisis​

International Business Times|15 hours ago
Tate Reeves home, sparking outrage Heavy rains that sparked flash floods in Mississippi since last week came to a head after Jackson's inefficient and understaffed main water treatment facility, OB Curtis Water Treatment Plant, began to fail Monday ...

 

[butters]

Hardly an underserved community ....

"Mississippi is the 32nd largest and 35th-most populous of the 50 U.S. states and has the lowest per-capita income in the United States. Jackson is both the state's capital and largest city. Greater Jackson is the state's most populous metropolitan area, with a population of 591,978 in 2020."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi


However, Reeves is an out and out asshole, so the timing may be good to get him out next year.

Mississippians Outraged As Tate Reeves Receives Fresh Water Truck Amid Water Crisis​

International Business Times|15 hours ago
Tate Reeves home, sparking outrage Heavy rains that sparked flash floods in Mississippi since last week came to a head after Jackson's inefficient and understaffed main water treatment facility, OB Curtis Water Treatment Plant, began to fail Monday ...

i read that to mean underserved in the way of quality and quantity of services per person/household/district when compared to other areas in Mississippi, largely due to other areas having louder, more aggressive, wealthier lobbyists for federal funding

 

[JohnnySavage]

Those third-world Southern states cling to their "Christian Values" so let God provide them clean water.

 

[Dribble]

It's just water...God gave them rain...

Last week the CDC updated the life expectancy of living in the US, and even broke it down by State. Every state in the union decreased due to Covid. But guess which State led the way at 71.9 years? Now you ask...how bad is that? Well that is a whole year worse than West Virginia. And a whole 9 years worse than Hawaii. Almost a fucking decade worse. Now, did you know the State of Hawaii implemented Obamacare almost 20 years prior to when it was mandated? And what State did Barack grow up in? Hummmmm...puzzling isn't it huh?

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Get fucked, fellow Americans.

 

[Dribble]

The Federal Govt gave money to Mississippi for things like this. It is sitting there ready to be used. But the Mississippi Legistlature has withheld the money in retaliation to the more "liberal" Jackson filing a court case against the State fighting the voting restrictions they passed. If the City of Jackson drops that case...the money would be released. Kinda sad the Republican politicians are openly saying this...that's how little they fear the white Court judges.

 

[Counselor706]

At the risk of sounding pedantic, allow me to sum this up: Jackson has been run exclusively by Democrats for generations, run by black mayors for 33 years, and according to the media, Jackson’s years-long water problems are an American failure of systemic racism.

Jackson’s water problems reach back years. Democrats still haven’t fixed it. Part of the problem is that one in four Jackson residents live in poverty, which is what happens when you continue to vote for Democrats. For years, 153,000 Jackson residents have put up with interruptions to their water service and announcement to boil their water before drinking.

And now, the city’s water treatment plant is in such bad shape, and the water is so dirty; the system that creates water pressure is so broken that the Democrat-run city government must distribute bottled water to residents.

Oh, and now the Democrat-run city government can’t even do that, can’t even get bottled water to its residents.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...jackson-ms-cant-even-deliver-water-residents/

 

[ll74]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...jackson-ms-cant-even-deliver-water-residents/

This is the dumbest take yet. They seem to not understand what systemic racism means and instead have decided that it relies on parties.

 

[MrMakersMark]

Jackson is a largely black city in a racist state. What I don’t understand is why we send a single penny to these assholes. Fuck them and their KKK shit. I wish Grant and Sherman had exterminated them back in 1865.

Though it has a history of racism, like all Southern states, today Mississippi isn’t even considered in the top 10 racist States. NY, Maryland, Michigan, West Virginia, Georgia, Maine, Ohio, Illinois and many others are considered more racially biased. Were you on board with sending money to Flint, Michigan? Michigan is one of the 5 most racially troubled states in the US.

Perspective: 82% of Jackson, Mississippi is Black. Average income in Jackson is between 50-60k per year.
The mayor is a Black man, elected in 2017.
The Chief of Police is a Black man,
The District Attorney is a Black man.
Nearly 80% of the Police force in Jackson are Black officers.
If Jackson, MS or MS in general had a current inflammatory racial problem, people would leave there and these numbers wouldn’t be this overwhelming.

So you propose not sending money to help fix the water problem in Jackson, MS because of the Civil War, Jim Crow and the Civil Rights Movement that ended in the 60s?
Doesn’t seem like the right thing to do.
Racism exists everywhere, but it didn’t create this problem and it can’t be an excuse not to try to help provide clean drinking water.

 

[butters]

great to see soldiers at 7 distribution sites today handing out bottled water to all who need it, just one day after President Biden said FEMA would be helping

 

[Dribble]

Though it has a history of racism, like all Southern states, today Mississippi isn’t even considered in the top 10 racist States. NY, Maryland, Michigan, West Virginia, Georgia, Maine, Ohio, Illinois and many others are considered more racially biased. Were you on board with sending money to Flint, Michigan? Michigan is one of the 5 most racially troubled states in the US.

Perspective: 82% of Jackson, Mississippi is Black. Average income in Jackson is between 50-60k per year.
The mayor is a Black man, elected in 2017.
The Chief of Police is a Black man,
The District Attorney is a Black man.
Nearly 80% of the Police force in Jackson are Black officers.
If Jackson, MS or MS in general had a current inflammatory racial problem, people would leave there and these numbers wouldn’t be this overwhelming.

So you propose not sending money to help fix the water problem in Jackson, MS because of the Civil War, Jim Crow and the Civil Rights Movement that ended in the 60s?
Doesn’t seem like the right thing to do.
Racism exists everywhere, but it didn’t create this problem and it can’t be an excuse not to try to help provide clean drinking water.

I don't remember...but it was either Alabama or Mississippi just this week...their Supreme Court upheld the Jim Crow laws still on the books. No racism there...

Edit: was the Appeals Court
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/26/us/mississippi-jim-crow-era-voting-restriction-law-upheld/index.html

 

[lovecraft68]

The tough thing about this is the knee jerk reaction to this is maybe the feds should be handling where this money goes for each state. Identifying the biggest needs, best way to improve said needs and not letting the corrupt states dole it out to whoever put the most money in their pockets.

But....at that point we're now talking ultimate big government, and they're as corrupt as the state governments.

Politicians score another win, and the idiot people keep voting status quo because they're conditioned to think they don't have the power and fail to realize they took it away from themselves.

The days of Gov big or small working for us is long gone.

 

[MrMakersMark]

I don't remember...but it was either Alabama or Mississippi just this week...their Supreme Court upheld the Jim Crow laws still on the books. No racism there...

Edit: was the Appeals Court
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/26/us/mississippi-jim-crow-era-voting-restriction-law-upheld/index.html

So, if you believe a felon should not be allowed to vote that’s racist according to CNN. Right. 16 States, not all of them Jim Crow States don’t allow felons to vote immediately after release. I think the law in MS states these released felons have to wait a year and can’t immediately vote. Yeah, that’s tragic.

Murder, rape, bribery, theft, arson, obtaining money or goods under false pretense, perjury, forgery, embezzlement or bigamy.

Those are the felonies we are talking about. The only way this becomes an assertion of anti-Black, Jim Crow era racism…..is if you believe only Black people are capable of those crimes and thus will be the only demo incarcerated for them

Is that what you believe?

Stop tracking CNN. They’ve an agenda.

 

[jaF0]

^^^ Too many words for BB. Maybe a new Krapper account? WrongTurd? Corny not trying to look like Corny?

 

[Dribble]

So, if you believe a felon should not be allowed to vote that’s racist according to CNN. Right. 16 States, not all of them Jim Crow States don’t allow felons to vote immediately after release. I think the law in MS states these released felons have to wait a year and can’t immediately vote. Yeah, that’s tragic.

Murder, rape, bribery, theft, arson, obtaining money or goods under false pretense, perjury, forgery, embezzlement or bigamy.

Those are the felonies we are talking about. The only way this becomes an assertion of anti-Black, Jim Crow era racism…..is if you believe only Black people are capable of those crimes and thus will be the only demo incarcerated for them

Is that what you believe?

Stop tracking CNN. They’ve an agenda.

When it is enforced only for one race...you are God Damn right it is fucking racist

 

[MrMakersMark]

When it is enforced only for one race...you are God Damn right it is fucking racist

If it were only enforced for one race, yes it would be racist. I agree. And at one time in Mississippi it almost certainly was. No denying that reality. It’s true.

But that was then, and this is now. So go find evidence that those felonies are only being prosecuted on minorities in MS. What you will find is that those crimes are prosecuted against guilty felons. I will wait for your statistical evidence proving the law that states a rapist has to wait a year after release is racist. Go nuts.

 

[MrMakersMark]

^^^ Too many words for BB. Maybe a new Krapper account? WrongTurd? Corny not trying to look like Corny?

New account? . This account is has been on LIT longer than yours has. I just don’t live here. I find others things to do and other places to be.

 

[Chobham]

The city of Jackson MS is responsible for their budget and expenditures and they alone, just like any other city. This is NOT as a result of a natural disaster, this is as a result of long term negligence. The cities revenues and expenditures are a matter or public record going as far back as 2015 as per my research. While I feel sorry for the populace, up to a point, it must be remembered they got the government they elected.

So now they play the 'race card.' Well, that's certainly one way of deflecting blame for malfeasance.

I don't doubt the allegations that the state is withholding funds based on a law suit. That's how politics works and it's not 'racist.' The city now has to decide where their priorities lie. In the service of their citizens, or pissing money away on a unjustifiable principle?

I remember an old quote from Richard Daley of Chicago, "The key to success in politics is to make sure the streets are plowed and the garbage is picked up." I would add, "Keep the water running" as well. City politicians that forget that their jobs are to maintain constituent services are bound to failure. If you can cover all the basic's and have time left over for symbolic stands...........fine. If not, you're fucked.

 

[jaF0]

I don't doubt the allegations that the state is withholding funds based on a law suit. That's how politics works and it's not 'racist.' The city now has to decide where their priorities lie. In the service of their citizens, or pissing money away on a unjustifiable principle?

But the Mississippi Legistlature has withheld the money in retaliation to the more "liberal" Jackson filing a court case against the State fighting the voting restrictions they passed.

Voting rights are an unjustifiable principle?

 

[Dribble]

If it were only enforced for one race, yes it would be racist. I agree. And at one time in Mississippi it almost certainly was. No denying that reality. It’s true.

But that was then, and this is now. So go find evidence that those felonies are only being prosecuted on minorities in MS. What you will find is that those crimes are prosecuted against guilty felons. I will wait for your statistical evidence proving the law that states a rapist has to wait a year after release is racist. Go nuts.

It is there if you want it. Google "Mississippi racial disparities in judicial enforcement

 

[Dribble]

The city of Jackson MS is responsible for their budget and expenditures and they alone, just like any other city. This is NOT as a result of a natural disaster, this is as a result of long term negligence. The cities revenues and expenditures are a matter or public record going as far back as 2015 as per my research. While I feel sorry for the populace, up to a point, it must be remembered they got the government they elected.

So now they play the 'race card.' Well, that's certainly one way of deflecting blame for malfeasance.

I don't doubt the allegations that the state is withholding funds based on a law suit. That's how politics works and it's not 'racist.' The city now has to decide where their priorities lie. In the service of their citizens, or pissing money away on a unjustifiable principle?

I remember an old quote from Richard Daley of Chicago, "The key to success in politics is to make sure the streets are plowed and the garbage is picked up." I would add, "Keep the water running" as well. City politicians that forget that their jobs are to maintain constituent services are bound to failure. If you can cover all the basic's and have time left over for symbolic stands...........fine. If not, you're fucked.

Then why has the Mississippi Legislative Branch withheld disaster funding until The City of Jackson drops their court case against voting restrictions? Check out the videos of their leadership saying this is why it is being withheld.

 

[MrMakersMark]

It is there if you want it. Google "Mississippi racial disparities in judicial enforcement

Evidence of racial disparity is not evidence of racial discrimination.

The data I asked you to come up with isn’t there.

If your answer to everything is “Look over there!! There is some racism!”, then you aren’t using a logical viewpoint. You are using a rhetorical viewpoint.

Question: Do these numbers fit your narrative? Remember Blacks make up about 16% of the US population, but nearly 40% of Mississippians are Black.

https://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/crime/ucr.asp?table_in=2

 

[Chobham]

Then why has the Mississippi Legislative Branch withheld disaster funding until The City of Jackson drops their court case against voting restrictions? Check out the videos of their leadership saying this is why it is being withheld.

I already addressed that..........................politics.