#metoo

[zipman]

a group of vets are in a support group for ptsd. they have various harrowing stories to tell. traumatic stuff.
one guy pipes up, you know full well he was a chef and never left the states, and he says he's haunted by the nightmares of the time he cut his pinky finger.
is ptsd in vets therefore stupid?

women don't speak up at the time because it's traumatic. it can take years before they can even tell a shrink. i took a decade before i could even type it anonymously.
and when they do say something, the first reaction is usually accusatory. i know this from experience.

brad pitt dating a younger woman has nothing to do with anything. ape is a good 12 years younger than me, and it's not a symbol of male oppression.

when I worked with the elderly? eventually I just refused to care for men. I never lost my shit with any, but that's a fucking miracle of self control.
1, a dude who fluffed in the shower I was supervising, and poked his boner at me.
2, a husband who used to block doorways to try to make us squeeze past him.
3, the guy who, when receiving medical attention for his feet, stood up and started to unzip in my face. ''haha, I forgot what we were doing!''
4, the husband who used to watch porn, in the lounge, while we were there.
Etc. Etc. Etc.
men of all ages can be vile, disgusting pigs. you seriously have no idea. it's not cute or funny when you just want to do your job well and you get treated like meat.
I had basically the same experiences as the actresses, dressed in unflattering, body covering uniform, doing one of the least glamorous jobs going.
it's not caused by skimpy outfits or Hollywood sleaze, it's caused by a society failing to raise expectations of male behaviour, a society that prefers to blame everything but the man.

Well said.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

a group of vets are in a support group for ptsd. they have various harrowing stories to tell. traumatic stuff.
one guy pipes up, you know full well he was a chef and never left the states, and he says he's haunted by the nightmares of the time he cut his pinky finger.
is ptsd in vets therefore stupid?

women don't speak up at the time because it's traumatic. it can take years before they can even tell a shrink. i took a decade before i could even type it anonymously.
and when they do say something, the first reaction is usually accusatory. i know this from experience.

brad pitt dating a younger woman has nothing to do with anything. ape is a good 12 years younger than me, and it's not a symbol of male oppression.

when I worked with the elderly? eventually I just refused to care for men. I never lost my shit with any, but that's a fucking miracle of self control.
1, a dude who fluffed in the shower I was supervising, and poked his boner at me.
2, a husband who used to block doorways to try to make us squeeze past him.
3, the guy who, when receiving medical attention for his feet, stood up and started to unzip in my face. ''haha, I forgot what we were doing!''
4, the husband who used to watch porn, in the lounge, while we were there.
Etc. Etc. Etc.
men of all ages can be vile, disgusting pigs. you seriously have no idea. it's not cute or funny when you just want to do your job well and you get treated like meat.
I had basically the same experiences as the actresses, dressed in unflattering, body covering uniform, doing one of the least glamorous jobs going.
it's not caused by skimpy outfits or Hollywood sleaze, it's caused by a society failing to raise expectations of male behaviour, a society that prefers to blame everything but the man.

a group of vets are in a support group for ptsd. they have various harrowing stories to tell. traumatic stuff.
one guy pipes up, you know full well he was a chef and never left the states, and he says he's haunted by the nightmares of the time he cut his pinky finger.
is ptsd in vets therefore stupid?

Great analogy.

But I am honestly just as pissed of at the broke dicks claiming PTSD just to get that 40%-100% check from Uncle Sam. In my large personal experience with this, the number of people that do it are the rule not the exception.

My point in general, is those ass hats hurt the real PTSD cases to the same degree dumb bitches not understanding what metoo# is hurts there.

Crap on Twitter, FB, this bitch suing Bush for sexual harassment are examples of woman hurting their own cause.

At no point did I try to say the issue is not real or that it doesn't need to be dealt with.

Hell, if you go back and unblock the trolls in this thread you can see fine examples of the the amount of these type of men on the GB alone.

 

[SpeareChucker]

I don’t like the way that lady looked at me in the elevator. #metoo

Women cannot be sexual predators. This is a culture of rich, white, male privilege.
Women are victims. Now you are victimizing any woman who looks at you. Maybe she looked at you in fear of being raped.

 

[dolf]

i think you're missing the point of the #metoo here.

it's not about every other woman getting brutally gang raped. it's about it being so common in our lives that arse grabs and passes are normalised. it's about this thing that isn't ok happening all the damn time.

it's like if every fifth customer in the shop shoplifted. it might be a tv, or it might be a twinkie, but it's still stealing and they're still thieves.

and how common it is is why people don't like to believe it, because that means you can't spot these guys, it means they're not wearing dirty macs, it might be your best buddy, or your brother, or your boss. your best man might be a fabulous, fun, generous guy... who made an aggressive pass at the 16y/o babysitter he was driving home last Saturday night.

to a guy who wouldn't, this seems too surreal and ugly to be true.

it happens in societies where women wear burqas, because it's not the way women behave that's causing it.

 

[adrina]

it's like if every fifth customer in the shop shoplifted. it might be a tv, or it might be a twinkie, but it's still stealing and they're still thieves.

To be honest I think one out of five is a low-ball number. Especially, to carry the analogy forward, since it's happening in probably 9 out of 10 stores.

 

[Paendragon]

a group of vets are in a support group for ptsd. they have various harrowing stories to tell. traumatic stuff.
one guy pipes up, you know full well he was a chef and never left the states, and he says he's haunted by the nightmares of the time he cut his pinky finger.
is ptsd in vets therefore stupid?

women don't speak up at the time because it's traumatic. it can take years before they can even tell a shrink. i took a decade before i could even type it anonymously.
and when they do say something, the first reaction is usually accusatory. i know this from experience.

brad pitt dating a younger woman has nothing to do with anything. ape is a good 12 years younger than me, and it's not a symbol of male oppression.

when I worked with the elderly? eventually I just refused to care for men. I never lost my shit with any, but that's a fucking miracle of self control.
1, a dude who fluffed in the shower I was supervising, and poked his boner at me.
2, a husband who used to block doorways to try to make us squeeze past him.
3, the guy who, when receiving medical attention for his feet, stood up and started to unzip in my face. ''haha, I forgot what we were doing!''
4, the husband who used to watch porn, in the lounge, while we were there.
Etc. Etc. Etc.
men of all ages can be vile, disgusting pigs. you seriously have no idea. it's not cute or funny when you just want to do your job well and you get treated like meat.
I had basically the same experiences as the actresses, dressed in unflattering, body covering uniform, doing one of the least glamorous jobs going.
it's not caused by skimpy outfits or Hollywood sleaze, it's caused by a society failing to raise expectations of male behaviour, a society that prefers to blame everything but the man.

This, exactly.

Sorry you deal with that . . .

 

[KimGordon67]

i think you're missing the point of the #metoo here.

it's not about every other woman getting brutally gang raped. it's about it being so common in our lives that arse grabs and passes are normalised. it's about this thing that isn't ok happening all the damn time.

it's like if every fifth customer in the shop shoplifted. it might be a tv, or it might be a twinkie, but it's still stealing and they're still thieves.

and how common it is is why people don't like to believe it, because that means you can't spot these guys, it means they're not wearing dirty macs, it might be your best buddy, or your brother, or your boss. your best man might be a fabulous, fun, generous guy... who made an aggressive pass at the 16y/o babysitter he was driving home last Saturday night.

to a guy who wouldn't, this seems too surreal and ugly to be true.

it happens in societies where women wear burqas, because it's not the way women behave that's causing it.

... or it might be you. Part of what the whole campaign is designed to do is to make clear how alarmingly prevalent the culture of entitlement is. So the next time you say to some random stranger 'you'd be so pretty if you smiled', think about the fact that you now know how likely it was that she was groped on the bus last month, or was flashed in the park last week, or was asked if she'd like be raped by a carload of guys that morning. That's why those 'innocuous' comments can be so horrible ... because you never know when it's going to be followed up by "... if you smiled, or had my cock in your mouth".

 

[dolf]

This, exactly.

Sorry you deal with that . . .

I got a job where I'm the only person who works in the lab, there are as many women as men in the building and (through nothing more than a blinding stroke of luck) all the guys I work with treat all the women they work with decently. Yes, my boss is an older man with a dodgy sense of humour, but he knows the difference between joking and creeping. Nobody walks on eggshells, and the wind ups are plenty.

It's the first job I've ever had where no man has made things uncomfortable for me.

 

[Not Normal]

a group of vets are in a support group for ptsd. they have various harrowing stories to tell. traumatic stuff.
one guy pipes up, you know full well he was a chef and never left the states, and he says he's haunted by the nightmares of the time he cut his pinky finger.
is ptsd in vets therefore stupid?

women don't speak up at the time because it's traumatic. it can take years before they can even tell a shrink. i took a decade before i could even type it anonymously.
and when they do say something, the first reaction is usually accusatory. i know this from experience.

brad pitt dating a younger woman has nothing to do with anything. ape is a good 12 years younger than me, and it's not a symbol of male oppression.

when I worked with the elderly? eventually I just refused to care for men. I never lost my shit with any, but that's a fucking miracle of self control.
1, a dude who fluffed in the shower I was supervising, and poked his boner at me.
2, a husband who used to block doorways to try to make us squeeze past him.
3, the guy who, when receiving medical attention for his feet, stood up and started to unzip in my face. ''haha, I forgot what we were doing!''
4, the husband who used to watch porn, in the lounge, while we were there.
Etc. Etc. Etc.
men of all ages can be vile, disgusting pigs. you seriously have no idea. it's not cute or funny when you just want to do your job well and you get treated like meat.
I had basically the same experiences as the actresses, dressed in unflattering, body covering uniform, doing one of the least glamorous jobs going.
it's not caused by skimpy outfits or Hollywood sleaze, it's caused by a society failing to raise expectations of male behaviour, a society that prefers to blame everything but the man.

Thank you for sharing this. I hope more men see things like this and realize what is actually going on.

i think you're missing the point of the #metoo here.

it's not about every other woman getting brutally gang raped. it's about it being so common in our lives that arse grabs and passes are normalised. it's about this thing that isn't ok happening all the damn time.

it's like if every fifth customer in the shop shoplifted. it might be a tv, or it might be a twinkie, but it's still stealing and they're still thieves.

and how common it is is why people don't like to believe it, because that means you can't spot these guys, it means they're not wearing dirty macs, it might be your best buddy, or your brother, or your boss. your best man might be a fabulous, fun, generous guy... who made an aggressive pass at the 16y/o babysitter he was driving home last Saturday night.

to a guy who wouldn't, this seems too surreal and ugly to be true.

it happens in societies where women wear burqas, because it's not the way women behave that's causing it.

This

 

[sharingfantasies]

The problem I have with this issue is that it doesn't start with where these examples of harassment start. The problem starts the moment a female starts developing which can start around ten years old. The boys and girls that pull on bra straps, make comments about the girl who accidentally bleeds through her underpants, the comments by adults asking if a person has a boyfriend or girlfriend to a young child as if that should be their most important goal. It isn't limited to just males, but females harass also. That group of boys or girls standing on the playground staring at someone and then giggling or laughing so that everyone in the area knows they are talking about that person.

Walking through a doorway where the other person stands so that you have to brush up against them to get in to the room, crowding up behind someone when they are reaching high for something or bending over, taking something from the person and then telling them they can get it back for a kiss. That is not flirting, it is making someone feel uncomfortable.

Driving by and yelling out the windows at someone walking down the sidewalk. Or that group that sits on the front porch and calls out to the people walking by. Whether male or female it is all wrong.

 

[Paendragon]

I got a job where I'm the only person who works in the lab, there are as many women as men in the building and (through nothing more than a blinding stroke of luck) all the guys I work with treat all the women they work with decently. Yes, my boss is an older man with a dodgy sense of humour, but he knows the difference between joking and creeping. Nobody walks on eggshells, and the wind ups are plenty.

It's the first job I've ever had where no man has made things uncomfortable for me.

That's great.

But it's also sad that this is the first job you've had like that. Honestly, I like to believe I've never made a woman feel that way. I try to be, honestly, kind of boring at work. It's just a place to work, right? But I've been working for nearly 20 years, and the first ten of that, I was not at my best. I wish I could promise I've never been the douchebag, but I don't know. It doesn't stop at work. At a bar? Party?

I used to do this thing when I was about to have sex. I'd ask her to put me inside of her. In my head, that was my way on ensuring consent. It's laughable that I assumed that was enough, that there was no other pressure, not necessarily from me, but societal.

And that's kind of the point of this whole thing, and why this thread pisses me off so much.

I found out, recently, that I know five women who have been sexually assaulted. I don't mean "on the internet", I mean friends. People I see often. I'm one guy. That is more than fucked up.

It's something society needs to see a abhorrent.

 

[RobDownSouth]

#MeToo movement was named Time Magazine's Persons of the Year today.

Still think it's funny, Vatican Assassin?

 

[Richard_P_Feynman]

VatAss will get back to you once he's finished watching frat girls getting raped.

 

[TalkRadio]

#MeToo movement was named Time Magazine's Persons of the Year today.

Still think it's funny, Vatican Assassin?

I think this is hilarious...

Dammit woman, I'm doing my best to make you self-sufficient, but you're not helpin' things!

Now git out there and shake your moneymaker!

-Rob "Pimpin' ain't Easy!" DownSouth

"Rob 'Pimpin' ain't Easy!' DownSouth?" LMAO!!!

 

[MagnusRichard]

females relying on tips for income comprise the largest single source of EEOC complaints of sexual harassment.

Money. If they don't have any, it's a man's fault. Sad, yes, the way penis-haters are dressing this up?

 

[RobDownSouth]

I think this is hilarious...
"Rob 'Pimpin' ain't Easy!' DownSouth?" LMAO!!!

Context is everything, Que.
See also:

Hate me because I'm gay...

 

[MagnusRichard]

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