Mesothelioma...any end to it?

[squarejohn]

The TV commercials run by trial lawyers cashing in on the Mesothelioma scam have been running for at least twenty years. When is this cow gonna run out of milk?

 

[cloudy]

Probably when people quit getting sick and dying because their employers don't give a shit if their working conditions kill them.

 

[Trinique_Fire]

Probably when people quit getting sick and dying because their employers don't give a shit if their working conditions kill them.

Like.

 

[TE999]

The TV commercials run by trial lawyers cashing in on the Mesothelioma scam have been running for at least twenty years. When is this cow gonna run out of milk?

Not for some time, I'm afraid. There are millions of structures where asbestos still exists, as it was an accepted material for roofing, flooring, insulation, sound deadening, etc. and renovation or demolition of these structures sends the asbestos flying. Brake linings and concrete were impregnated with it as well.

Doctors are treating patients for asbestos induced mesothelioma contracted as a result of the World Trade Center's destruction in 2001. Many of the buildings around the center that were destroyed or damaged were old and contained asbestos that joined the other debris particles in the air.

It takes years for mesothelioma to appear in the lungs and the heart.

Here's Wiki's entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesothelioma

 

[Dragonlipz]

Probably when people quit getting sick and dying because their employers don't give a shit if their working conditions kill them.

As always: Well said and pithy comment that goes right to the heart (or lungs, in this instance) of the matter.
Never been sick, SquareJock? Never been unemployed? Never been without means? Never?
Good for you, bad for your world view.
I hope someone is praying for you, I sure won't. A scam is only a scam if someone is being ripped off.
When people are compensated for the loss of the quality of their life is provable and undeniable, the money paid them only provides comfort, not compensation. Nothing can restore their health, I'm not sure you understand that about Mesothelioma. The symptoms can occur decades after exposure: scientific fact. Again, a concept I'm not sure your meager intelligence can grasp.
Think about it, but I'm already sure that it's a concept beyond your meager alt resources.

 

[squarejohn]

As always: Well said and pithy comment that goes right to the heart (or lungs, in this instance) of the matter.
Never been sick, SquareJock? Never been unemployed? Never been without means? Never?
Good for you, bad for your world view.
I hope someone is praying for you, I sure won't. A scam is only a scam if someone is being ripped off.
When people are compensated for the loss of the quality of their life is provable and undeniable, the money paid them only provides comfort, not compensation. Nothing can restore their health, I'm not sure you understand that about Mesothelioma. The symptoms can occur decades after exposure: scientific fact. Again, a concept I'm not sure your meager intelligence can grasp.
Think about it, but I'm already sure that it's a concept beyond your meager alt resources.

You're so full of shit, I can smell you all the way over here.

 

[Stella_Omega]

So what do you know about mesotheliomia, squarejohn?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

One good result of the Great Rexcession is there's no money to pay trial lawyers huge settlements.

 

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[Katyusha]

Squarejohn, I'm curious. What exactly is the "mesothelioma scam?" I know what mesothelioma is, and I understand what scams are, but I don't understand what this "mesothelioma scam" is. Could you explain please?

 

[bronzeage]

The TV commercials run by trial lawyers cashing in on the Mesothelioma scam have been running for at least twenty years. When is this cow gonna run out of milk?

When all the victims are dead.

I have a friend from high school who went into respiratory therapy. The first 20 years of his career was spent caring for ship yard workers who started out in the 40's and 50's. Asbestos was used to insulate steam pipes and every man who worked in the ship yards was exposed to tremendous amounts.

Most of his patients from those days are now gone. It is a very slow and miserable death.

If all the corporations who profited from the labor of asbestos workers had come together and created a fund to pay for the long term treatment of Mesothelioma, they could have fucked all the lawyers out of their cash cow.

The corporate mindset has never varied much in the face of this kind of thing. Oil rigs are dangerous and people die. Coal mines are dangerous and people die. It's the risk a man takes when he punches the clock.

Now the bill has come due and the corporate mindset is to blame the bill collector.

 

[fuckwaffle]

unfortunately, it will be done when, all the asbestos has been relegated to the hazardous waste dumps or burned and then only when every patient with the disease has either been cured or died.

while i am no friend to lawyers, they do in this circumstance, serve a purpose. and while their commercials do interrupt your favorite television program would you rather watch one about tampons?

 

[Katyusha]

unfortunately, it will be done when, all the asbestos has been relegated to the hazardous waste dumps or burned and then only when every patient with the disease has either been cured or died.

while i am no friend to lawyers, they do in this circumstance, serve a purpose. and while their commercials do interrupt your favorite television program would you rather watch one about tampons?

Tampons serve a purpose too, I'll have you know.

 

[TE999]

A dear friend of our family just succumbed to this.

He was a long-time retired teacher who used to paint school interiors during the summers for extra money.

This attacked him without warning. But even if they'd caught it early, it wouldn't have mattered. Cure rates are nearly nonexistent.

It's damned sad.

You have my sympathy, sarahh. It hurts to lose a good friend.

Mesotheleoma acts similarly to black lung and white lung in that the alveoli are compromised and the patient suffocates. It is a miserable, lingering death.

 

[theravenfox]

My dad had Mesotheleoma from working in the ship yards. We had a lawyer. We got a settlement. It was a) a few thousand dollars b) inadequate to compensate my father for his health problems.

It wasn't what killed him. Even so, if those few thousand dollars would bring him back, I'd gladly pay.

 

[NewsGirl_CQMe]

My true life story about my 7 hours as a Literotica member is coming soon! Watch for it.

 

[squarejohn]

Squarejohn, I'm curious. What exactly is the "mesothelioma scam?" I know what mesothelioma is, and I understand what scams are, but I don't understand what this "mesothelioma scam" is. Could you explain please?

I'll take a shot at it, in the sure and certain knowledge that whatever write, will be attacked.

The first I heard about mesothelioma were notices in the mail that "I" might qualify for certain benefits due to recent court action. All I had to do was fill in the simple form and mail it back. This was more than twenty years ago. To me, it was another piece of junk mail and it went into the garbage.

A friend of mine did fill in the form and mailed it back. After two or three years, he received a settlement check for about $6000.00. He qualified for that simply by being in an industry in which exposure to asbestos was a near certainty. At the time of his award he was in good health and stayed that way until his death at age eighty.

Now, I may not have all the exact facts, but I am relating the principle of how this works. When the initial suit was brought, the asbestos industry simply settled. The court action formed a huge, multi-billion dollar slush fund.

Lawyers combed through the country looking for people who actually had the disease, or might have been exposed to asbestos. All a lawyer had to do was sign up victims and potential victims, do the necessary paperwork for each individual, and rake off his 30%+ fee. As can be inferred by the television ads recruiting victims, this is a very lucrative enterprise for trial lawyers.

And there is no lawyering involved anyway. The "victim" is trotted through a simple bureaucratic process; the case was "settled" decades ago. The victim gets his cut, minus what the lawyer rakes off as his fee. This is basically how large class action suits are handled. Lots and lots of "victims" and lots and lots of lawyer fees.

John Grisham wrote a novel about this with all the inside details. I can't recall the title.

I don't know any more about mesothelioma than anyone else. It's a rare form of lung cancer (itself a rare disease), has a latency period of fifty years, and a grim prognosis. I'm not interested in anecdotes about somebody's poor uncle. I'm still recuperating from a lot of surgery and five months in a pain-filled hospital bed. Everybody has their sad story, and nobody is much interested in hearing about it. That's life; when you're down, you can expect to be kicked.

My beef is about trial lawyers in general, and the crooked judges who play along with them. Sure, they can tell you plausible hard luck stories in which their action made life so much better for the "victim." So what? The only life a trial lawyer is interested in bettering, is his own. And while he's doing that, he's making it harder on the rest of us.

 

[cloudy]

John Grisham wrote a novel about this with all the inside details. I can't recall the title.

No, he didn't.

The one you're thinking of is The Rainmaker, the dying kid has leukemia, not mesothelioma, and the object of the suit isn't the original employer, but the insurance company that refused his benefits.

Try again.

 

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[squarejohn]

Well, you started this. Difficult to claim victim status now.



Yep.



The disease is far more common than you think. And it doesn't only manifest as lung cancer.



This is a free web site. It's big on free speech. Post whatever you wish.

But you should expect to get called on it if your facts are incorrect.

What's your point?

 

[bronzeage]

What's your point?

Sorry to hear you are not feeling well.

If you have been kicked while you were down, I suggest you consult a lawyer.

 

[amicus]

The TV commercials run by trial lawyers cashing in on the Mesothelioma scam have been running for at least twenty years. When is this cow gonna run out of milk?

You have, knowingly or unknowingly, rattled the cage of the anti industrialist mentality on this forum.

There seem to be a dozen such 'scams' running continuously, at great profit for the trial lawyer community, a favorit of the Dumocrats, and of course the media outlets that profit from the paid advertisements.

http://rfmnet.com/ajtf1.htm

A Little History Lesson

Ancient History

Early uses of asbestos, a word that comes from a Greek adjective meaning inextinguish-able, were observed even before the birth of Christ. Potters in Finland were reported to have used soils containing asbestos dating back to 2500 B.C. Asbestos was used for wicks in sacred lamps as described by several Greek historians. And, in ancient Roman and Egyptian times, writings of the time mentioned asbestos fibers being weaved into burial clothing for cremations of emperors and pharoahs. During the Dark Ages, the use of asbestos seemed to diminish in Europe, however in the 13th century, Marco Polo discovered several fire resistant cloth materials made out of asbestos, such as tablecoths during his many travels.

I read somewhere that 'Lead' used in the manufacture of wine drinking cups during the Roman era, killed more Romans than anything else. There are trial lawyers now defending those injured by Lead poisoning.

'Fire' takes a great many lives each year, perhaps the manufacturing industry for matches and barbeque lighters out be sued too?

I am by no means defending the asbestos industry, nor the lead paint people, nor the pharmaceuticals whose products have or may have caused harm to the public at large.

What I am criticizing is the 'ambulamce chasing' law profession that profits from people pretending to choke in restuarants or fake a fall in the lobby of a large company in order to gain a settlement.

I am also calling attention to the anti industrial crowd that shouts in glee everytime an industrial giant or a manufacturing mogul is accused or sued over product liability.

It is the vague irrational faith in a 'cottage industry' form of society, agrarian in nature, before coal, the steam engine and modern technology, that tickles my funny bone...just how would those of you who hate modern society survive if your wishes actually came true?

The answer is; you wouldn't survive. You lifespan would decrease abruptly, child mortality would skyrocket and without the medicines of modern industrial medicine research, development and distribution, you would succumb to the first common cold of the winter.

In spite of the alleged horrors of modern society, you benefit from all aspects of it; from a longer and more healthy life and leisure time unheard of in the pre industrial world, to access to knowledge as never before.

Amicus

edited to add: it is nature that most seem to object to; nature is hostile and man has no inborn instincts to guide him in his choices of food or drink or building material; we had to and have to, learn the hard way, by trial and error. Instead of criticizing those industrial efforts of man to better human life, we should honor them and thank them for the luxuries they have presented us....

 

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[squarejohn]

Sorry to hear you are not feeling well.

If you have been kicked while you were down, I suggest you consult a lawyer.

About your suggestion that I consult a lawyer: I just "got it." That was a good one. I like sarcasm.

 

[bronzeage]

About your suggestion that I consult a lawyer: I just "got it." That was a good one. I like sarcasm.

That's one of the strange things about living in the land with "justice for all."

We don't have to engage in vendettas and blood feuds. We can go to court, present our case and find justice. It's not perfect, but its better than holding your neighbors children hostage until he pays up.

If you owned a mule and discovered you neighbor had rented it to someone else, you might not mind if you received a part of the money. You might mind more if the renter worked the poor animal to the point of death and brought him back useless to you. That wasn't part of the deal.

Now, imagine it's not a mule, it's you lungs.