Mental submission

shy slave

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How do you explain mental submission?

That way of instantly dropping into a different headspace.

Is it voice, a word, a single touch.

My take on mental submission is the place where one minute you are going about daily life, the next your entire focus is on your PYL.
 
dolf said:
well...you're mental.

drop explained!

Darling dolf......it takes one to know one LOL

And considering your text interrupted my trying to explain to someone what mental submission is, I think you should help me out on this one :p
 
shy slave said:
How do you explain mental submission?
I would say that mental submission involves altering or adapting points of view, goals, etc., to reflect those of the person to whom you submit.

What explains it? A combination of charisma, affection, respect, habit, and recognition or acknowledgment of superior wisdom or experience in one or more areas. The mixture varies, depending on context and the underlying nature of the relationship itself.
 
shy slave said:
Darling dolf......it takes one to know one LOL

And considering your text interrupted my trying to explain to someone what mental submission is, I think you should help me out on this one :p
can't fault my timing.
 
shy slave said:
How do you explain mental submission?

That way of instantly dropping into a different headspace.

Is it voice, a word, a single touch.

My take on mental submission is the place where one minute you are going about daily life, the next your entire focus is on your PYL.

It's happened a couple of times for me. Usually he will push me somewhere in our play, something new, and then I'm just there, and I want to crumble at his feet. I always freak out a little afterwards.
 
In my case about 8 years of consistency and a general safe/harmless/got your back presence, but I'm outside the bell curve I think. Oh, he'll also put his ass in the air for me if I want, so it's a return-the-favor kind of thing in addition. Honestly, I think it's being the kind of person who deserves it, whatever that might mean.
 
In our case, it is about 18 years of simple conditioned responses. It doesn't matter what i am doing, who i am talking to, or any external situation, all he has to do is whisper in my ear, "Who do you belong to?" BOOM! Instantly i am pure, unadulterated submissive for him.

i wish i could explain the whys and wherefores of it, but i can't. i just revel in it. :nana:
 
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Netzach said:
In my case about 8 years of consistency and a general safe/harmless/got your back presence, but I'm outside the bell curve I think. Oh, he'll also put his ass in the air for me if I want, so it's a return-the-favor kind of thing in addition. Honestly, I think it's being the kind of person who deserves it, whatever that might mean.

Yes. That. Exactly.
 
JMohegan said:
I would say that mental submission involves altering or adapting points of view, goals, etc., to reflect those of the person to whom you submit.

What explains it? A combination of charisma, affection, respect, habit, and recognition or acknowledgment of superior wisdom or experience in one or more areas. The mixture varies, depending on context and the underlying nature of the relationship itself.

That is what is so hard to define.

The varying mixture, the context, and the nature of it all.

How is it possible for one word, or a touch to have such an instant reaction; yet from another person there is not the same edge of response?
 
intothewoods said:
It's happened a couple of times for me. Usually he will push me somewhere in our play, something new, and then I'm just there, and I want to crumble at his feet. I always freak out a little afterwards.


'crumble at his feet'

Perfect wording.

Thank you
 
Netzach said:
In my case about 8 years of consistency and a general safe/harmless/got your back presence, but I'm outside the bell curve I think. Oh, he'll also put his ass in the air for me if I want, so it's a return-the-favor kind of thing in addition. Honestly, I think it's being the kind of person who deserves it, whatever that might mean.

This is a curious statement.

It comes back to my difficulty with trying to figure out what it is that makes them deserve it.

I have spoken to someone I don't even like, yet it can be instant submission. Otehr people who are great to be with, nothing, nada, nil.

I can't explain it.
 
museofdragon said:
In our case, it is about 18 years of simple conditioned responses. It doesn't matter what i am doing, who i am talking to, or any external situation, all he has to do is whisper in my ear, "Who do you belong to?" BOOM! Instantly i am pure, unadulterated submissive for him.

i wish i could explain the whys and wherefores of it, but i can't. i just revel in it. :nana:

Thank you muse.

It is that BOOM effect someone can have on you.

You say it is a conditioned response, but when did it start?

When Andante and I were together it was from the very first time I heard his voice. No conditioning, just instantly there.
It grew into a conditioned response on a deeper level, but that is different.

I wish I were able to articulate how the combination of things (as JM described) can give that deeper level, beyond 'play'
 
shy slave said:
That is what is so hard to define.

The varying mixture, the context, and the nature of it all.

How is it possible for one word, or a touch to have such an instant reaction; yet from another person there is not the same edge of response?
Why does one woman's smile light up a room, and another woman's just bare teeth?

I have no idea.

Shank recently posted the lyrics to an old, sappy song that contains a perfect line to deliver in response. I'd hunt it down and quote it, but my badass domly reputation might be tarnished beyond repair. ;)
 
JMohegan said:
Why does one woman's smile light up a room, and another woman's just bare teeth?

I have no idea.

Shank recently posted the lyrics to an old, sappy song that contains a perfect line to deliver in response. I'd hunt it down and quote it, but my badass domly reputation might be tarnished beyond repair. ;)

'badass Domly reputation'

*speechless*

:kiss:
 
For me, it's a cold shiver that creeps down my spine. Almost have to force myself not to moan. I think it's a mental trigger in response to something deeply erotic. That's a good question really, hard to define. :cathappy:
 
JMohegan said:
Why does one woman's smile light up a room, and another woman's just bare teeth?

I have no idea.

Shank recently posted the lyrics to an old, sappy song that contains a perfect line to deliver in response. I'd hunt it down and quote it, but my badass domly reputation might be tarnished beyond repair. ;)

There's a song that describes this? Now I want to find it.
 
intothewoods said:
There's a song that describes this? Now I want to find it.


When I have time I want to trawl Shanks thread and see if I can find it.

I don't know whether I want to thank JM for mentioning it, or yell at him for not at least putting the title out there! :rolleyes:
 
HarletMinx said:
For me, it's a cold shiver that creeps down my spine. Almost have to force myself not to moan. I think it's a mental trigger in response to something deeply erotic. That's a good question really, hard to define. :cathappy:

I agree it is hard to define, particularly it does not seem to be a presrciption of acts

a + b = c (everytime.)

Sometimes

a+ b = 0

lol
 
shy slave said:
I don't know whether I want to thank JM for mentioning it, or yell at him for not at least putting the title out there! :rolleyes:
As entertaining as your frustration is..... ;)

Nevertheless, here you go.



shy slave said:
That is what is so hard to define.

The varying mixture, the context, and the nature of it all.

How is it possible for one word, or a touch to have such an instant reaction; yet from another person there is not the same edge of response?
Who can explain it?
Who can tell you why?
Fools give you reasons,
Wise men never try.


Click me for the audio version.

Click me for the lyrics from Shank.
 
museofdragon said:
...all he has to do is whisper in my ear, "Who do you belong to?" BOOM! Instantly i am pure, unadulterated submissive for him.


Wow! This just makes me melt. I've felt this with an online Dom but never in real life. It sounds heavenly.

In my inexperience, I don't feel I have much to add but this is an interesting topic. I wonder if some sub drop is involved sometimes. However, shy mentioned that she felt this with no conditioning whatsoever, so I wonder what it really is; science as in a chemical reaction or a woo woo soulmate reaction (or a bit of both). :rolleyes:
 
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