Men as Depressed as Women

[3113]

Seems that the research touting women as being twice as likely to be depressed then men was wrong. The symptoms of depression were just chauvinistic. From here:

The researchers...analyzed data from a national mental health survey of 3,310 women and 2,382 men while also looking for alternative symptoms...Some of the alternative "male-type" symptoms included anger attacks, aggression, substance abuse and risk taking.

Results show that when both traditional and alternative symptoms are accounted for, men and women meet the criteria for depression in equal measures, with 30.6% of men and 33.3% of the women in the study classified as depressed....The study authors note that most of the research exploring the sex differences in depression has focused on reasons for why women have a greater risk for developing it. But..."when men are depressed, they may experience symptoms that are different than what is included in current diagnostic criteria."

Relying on men's disclosure of traditional symptoms, note the researchers, could lead to men who are not properly diagnosed with depression.

It's a sad, sad world out there

 

[sr71plt]

What could women possibly be doing to depress men?

 

[PennLady]

What could women possibly be doing to depress men?

Apparently they could be having success in areas of life:

http://www.salon.com/2013/08/30/study_men_secretly_feel_terrible_when_the_women_they_love_succeed/

 

[sr71plt]

The first name of the author of that article, Katie. That would be a woman's name, wouldn't it?

 

[PennLady]

The first name of the author of that article, Katie. That would be a woman's name, wouldn't it?

Well, yeah, but she didn't do the study. That was done by a woman and a man.

 

[glynndah]

I thought this was about drag queens. Doesn't the title say "Men are Dressed as Women"?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The authors don't get to create designer criteria to make their case.

The authors try and equate amusement with mania, and situational depression isn't the same as Major Depression.

We have a saying in the profession: WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH, THE TOUGH GET (fill in the blank). I get depressed. Some get drunk. Some get violent. Some get lost. Some get whatever.

Depression per se is an appropriate reaction to some kinds of experiences.

Based on my experiences females have more depression causing events than males, and their events are more robust and stout than what males run into. Men lose jobs, men lose wives, men lose their health, men lose their best friend, Woody. And we recover. Women get fucked harder.

Lady Gaga, across the street from me, in the last year, lost her husband and daughter, lost her home, lost her job and insurance, and has health issues. Major shit. She gets a small monthly widows stipend from social security but its hardly enough to buy her groceries. And she cant find work anywhere. She's 50 and starting from scratch.

 

[Handley_Page]

What could women possibly be doing to depress men?

I reckon that, these day, it's a self-apparent truth.

Apparently they could be having success in areas of life:

http://www.salon.com/2013/08/30/study_men_secretly_feel_terrible_when_the_women_they_love_succeed/

Since the dawn of time, Men have looked after women (by & large).
So if a woman seems to no longer need a man to look after her, there's little point in a man even trying, is there. Naturally, basic functions of life (shelter, food and rent) excepted.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

HANDLEYS on a roll today, wrong every time he opens his pie hole.

Males have more utility than simple wage earners. When a female is an heiress may be she can afford to hire people to do what husbands and boyfriends do. Nut I've never a woman who's happy doing it. Even the gay woman next door borrows me occasionally, and she hires people to do all kinds of things for her. We had an eruption of kids knocking over crap, and its not practical or cheap to hire someone to drive over and right an upset applecart. You need a strong man.

 

[soflabbwlvr]

Men should be more depressed than women. Women don't have to suffer their teams losing and missing the playoffs, their favorite player going 0-4, or their quarterback throwing a pick six in the final minute. Women have no idea what men must endure.

 

[PennLady]

Men should be more depressed than women. Women don't have to suffer their teams losing and missing the playoffs, their favorite player going 0-4, or their quarterback throwing a pick six in the final minute. Women have no idea what men must endure.

Bullshit. I've grown up with the Phillies, Eagles and Flyers and weathered the very lean years with the Capitals. Some women do know.

 

[sr71plt]

Yeah, well, we all know you're really a dump truck driver named Bubba.

 

[lovecraft68]

I know a lot of guys that if a vibrator could take out the trash and change the oil, men would be extinct.

They're not even needed to pro create with sperm banks.

Men need to evolve and they don't want too

Hunter gatherer is no longer necessary so they actually have to prove their worth in a more emotional intimate way and be a partner not a "stay here and rattle those pots"

Most are failing the transition and are depressed at not being needed.

And too stupid to realize they're only not needed because they're morons who can't evolve.

Now if you'll excuse me I have to take out the trash

 

[PennLady]

Yeah, well, we all know you're really a dump truck driver named Bubba.

Actually I drive semis and smoke Marlboros.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I know a lot of guys that if a vibrator could take out the trash and change the oil, men would be extinct.

They're not even needed to pro create with sperm banks.

Men need to evolve and they don't want too

Hunter gatherer is no longer necessary so they actually have to prove their worth in a more emotional intimate way and be a partner not a "stay here and rattle those pots"

Most are failing the transition and are depressed at not being needed.

And too stupid to realize they're only not needed because they're morons who can't evolve.

Now if you'll excuse me I have to take out the trash

Naaah. Men and women haven't changed in 10,000 years. The girls who don't want men go extinct.

 

[StrangeLife]

This isn't about gender. It's proof that peeing while sitting down can make you depressed...

 

[soflabbwlvr]

Bullshit. I've grown up with the Phillies, Eagles and Flyers and weathered the very lean years with the Capitals. Some women do know.

Women don't live vicariously through their teams the way men do.

 

[PennLady]

Women don't live vicariously through their teams the way men do.

I suppose we do have the sense to make sure there's a little distance.

On the other hand, I was there in person at two rather heart-breaking losses for the Caps and that leaves an impression.

 

[3113]

Hunter gatherer is no longer necessary

It's not? Hm. I was kinda suspicious of what my husband was doing all those nights he said he was going to hunt down wooly mammoths with his buds...but he always brought back these big steaks to barbecue so I didn't think much about it. And here I was thinking we'd starve without him....

 

[3113]

I suppose we do have the sense to make sure there's a little distance.

Nah. I know women who'd leave their husbands for a sports team in a heartbeat

 

[PennLady]

Nah. I know women who'd leave their husbands for a sports team in a heartbeat

I don't think she would have left my dad, but my mom sure was nuts for the Broad Street Bullies back in the day.

 

[DeYaKen]

seriously though

Seems that the research touting women as being twice as likely to be depressed then men was wrong. The symptoms of depression were just chauvinistic. From here:

It's a sad, sad world out there

Yes it's been good to have laugh here, but it is a good point and one that as authors, we shouldn't ignore. How many stories have you read where a wife's excuse for having an affair was that she felt old and unattractive? Now think about how many stories offer the same excuse for a man.

Do we get the same feelings when we see the six pack becoming the spare tyre? When the mop top turns into a bald spot and the black turns to grey? Yes we do. No matter what sex you are it still hurts to think that the opposite sex is no longer interested.

It's a sad fact that in the western world male suicides outnumber female and the gap is growing. Interestingly enough more women attempt it but the men usually succeed, indicating that it was a genuine desire to die and not a cry for help.

The big difference, I believe, is that men are less likely to accept they have a problem and even less likely to seek help. We tend to either think there is nothing wrong or that we can fix it.

Of course, you are never going to get good scores by writing about men falling apart. The majority of the readers are men and they give high scores to stories where the man behaves in a macho manner. This is mainly because it is the way they'd like to believe they would act.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Yes it's been good to have laugh here, but it is a good point and one that as authors, we shouldn't ignore. How many stories have you read where a wife's excuse for having an affair was that she felt old and unattractive? Now think about how many stories offer the same excuse for a man.

Do we get the same feelings when we see the six pack becoming the spare tyre? When the mop top turns into a bald spot and the black turns to grey? Yes we do. No matter what sex you are it still hurts to think that the opposite sex is no longer interested.

It's a sad fact that in the western world male suicides outnumber female and the gap is growing. Interestingly enough more women attempt it but the men usually succeed, indicating that it was a genuine desire to die and not a cry for help.

The big difference, I believe, is that men are less likely to accept they have a problem and even less likely to seek help. We tend to either think there is nothing wrong or that we can fix it.

Of course, you are never going to get good scores by writing about men falling apart. The majority of the readers are men and they give high scores to stories where the man behaves in a macho manner. This is mainly because it is the way they'd like to believe they would act.

You gotta be Welsh. There's no other explanation for your posts.

 

[SusanJillParker]

Question

You gotta be Welsh. There's no other explanation for your posts.

Ah, James. Being that you're one of the smartest people on here, I have a couple of questions that I'm hoping you can answer.

I realize that this is not the place to ask this question but I didn't know where else to ask it.

Do you know when Literotica first started? I'm thinking that it was 1999.

Do you know how many writers on the site? I'm figuring about 55,000.

Lastly, do you know how many stories there are on the site? I'm figuring about 500,000 based upon Literotica being in business for 14 years with approximately 100stories posting daily, give or take, which would extrapolate to 511,000.

Thank you in advance for your help.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Ah, James. Being that you're one of the smartest people on here, I have a couple of questions that I'm hoping you can answer.

I realize that this is not the place to ask this question but I didn't know where else to ask it.

Do you know when Literotica first started? I'm thinking that it was 1999.

Do you know how many writers on the site? I'm figuring about 55,000.

Lastly, do you know how many stories there are on the site? I'm figuring about 500,000 based upon Literotica being in business for 14 years with approximately 100stories posting daily, give or take, which would extrapolate to 511,000.

Thank you in advance for your help.

Take it to the bank, wherever there's a cluster fuck a Welshman will always be the axle it turns on.