Me! Me! Me! Me!

[Guest]

Are you shameless enough to do thieving? Without giving due credit to the person you stole it from?

Yea, you are.

 

[KenJames]

Are you shameless enough to do thieving? Without giving due credit to the person you stole it from?

Yea, you are.

No, I'm not.

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

Hey!

I'm into burlesque. It’s a parody, a pastiche.


It’s HONEST thievery!

 

[CharleyH]

Are you shameless enough to do thieving? Without giving due credit to the person you stole it from?

Yea, you are.

Shamelessly, I want to steal that vodka of yours

 

[Guest]

No, I do not steal. I may borrow, and if I do not cite the original author I am certain the borrowing is evident to literary folk.

Perdita

 

[shereads]

Are you shameless enough to do thieving? Without giving due credit to the person you stole it from?

Yea, you are.

I'm not sure what's stopping me from stealing. It can't be shame.

 

[Guest]

Re: Re: Me! Me! Me! Me!

I'm not sure what's stopping me from stealing. It can't be shame.

Getting caught? Quite normal. P.

 

[lucky-E-leven]

Re: Re: Me! Me! Me! Me!

I'm not sure what's stopping me from stealing. It can't be shame.

You've been stolen from. That's all it takes.

~lucky

 

[minsue]

Re: Re: Re: Me! Me! Me! Me!

You've been stolen from. That's all it takes.

~lucky

Yup

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Came across a review of a book that shows that Vladimir Nobokov stole the names and idea for "Lolita" from another novel that he’d read as a student. The author of this piece was of the opoinion that Nabokov hadn’t consciously stolen them, but that the idea had been planted in his brain and he wasn't conscious of having read it before when he wrote his book. The author coined some cool term to describe this kind of forgetting. Something like dysnesia or abnesia or something.

I did the same thing with my Lit name. I really thought I’d made up “Dr. Mabeuse”, then a couple years ago I was rereading “On The Road” in which Kerouac mentions going to see a movie called “Dr. Mabuse”. The last time I’d read On the Road was in high school, so I’d been carrying that name around buried in my subconscious for years and years without even knowing it.

I think we all do that a lot. Either we consciously steal or we unconsciously steal, but we steal all the time.

---dr.M.

 

[shereads]

Maybe I don't steal because I haven't been able to interest a publisher in my massive novel, "The Name of the Peony." It was a bitch to type that sucker, too.

 

[cantdog]

There is nothing new under the sun, as the fella says.

What an unpleasant way to ask the question.

 

[KenJames]

Came across a review of a book that shows that Vladimir Nobokov stole the names and idea for "Lolita" from another novel that he’d read as a student. The author of this piece was of the opoinion that Nabokov hadn’t consciously stolen them, but that the idea had been planted in his brain and he wasn't conscious of having read it before when he wrote his book. The author coined some cool term to describe this kind of forgetting. Something like dysnesia or abnesia or something.

I did the same thing with my Lit name. I really thought I’d made up “Dr. Mabeuse”, then a couple years ago I was rereading “On The Road” in which Kerouac mentions going to see a movie called “Dr. Mabuse”. The last time I’d read On the Road was in high school, so I’d been carrying that name around buried in my subconscious for years and years without even knowing it.

I think we all do that a lot. Either we consciously steal or we unconsciously steal, but we steal all the time.

---dr.M.

Someone once said, "If you steal from one author, it's plagiarism. If you steal from many, it's research." I don't consider unconscious use to be theft, unless someone "unconsciously" uses a significant portion of the other work. If I consciously use something, I try to make it clear it's a tribute to the original author.

 

[Guest]

Igor Stravinsky said he stole from Mozart "because I love him".

Perdita

 

[oggbashan]

Shakespeare 'stole' from Holinshed for his historical plays. He 'stole' other plots.

So what? He made them entirely different.

I can be inspired by reading someone else's story but what results is very unlikely to be similar. It is more a case of taking a 'What if' from part of the story.

I do parody - My versions of Gulliver's Travels, Hamlet's soliquy and Longfellow in The Worst Ch 01.

I have written 'Cinderella' several times.

Og

 

[Guest]

Shakespeare 'stole' from Holinshed for his historical plays. He 'stole' other plots.

Ogg, I would not call it stealing if from history, that's more like research or inspiration, and making it better or more interesting as drama was his art. Oft' times the history is better understood through the humanity Shakespeare gives to 'his' players. Yes, he did borrow from other artists, especially Ovid, but again he made it his own, enhanced the original ideas and characterizations involved. I know you know this, but for others I did not want the notion of Shakespeare not being original to be glibly accepted.

Perdita

 

[Black Tulip]

I prefer to say I was inspired by someone else.

Like my Lit name was inspired by Alexandre Dumas' novel called The Black Tulip. I only remembered that one after I chose the name.

I only steal in a serious way when I'm certain nobody will ever find out.
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Which is never.

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

Maybe I don't steal because I haven't been able to interest a publisher in my massive novel, "The Name of the Peony." It was a bitch to type that sucker, too.

Change the title to "The Name of the Columbine" and submit it under the pseudonym Michelle Tyler Moore

 

[Svenskaflicka]

I don't steal. I just forget where I borrow stuff.