Maybe there are some cuts we can make to Defense Spending?

BoyNextDoor

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Maybe this fighter is not really what we should be investing in?

Joint Strike Fighter
"Operating and support costs alone are now expected to reach about $1.1 trillion, up from last year's estimate of $1 trillion, according to a Pentagon report to Congress."

Lockheed Martin stock price chart LMT
From LMT's EDGAR filing "The F-35 program, which is the largest in our corporation and generated 42% of Aeronautics’ net sales in 2011, consists of multiple contracts. "
 
Rep Paul Ryan called the Army's General Staff a bunch of liars last week when they asked for a reduction in the Defense budget.

They tore him a new asshole in response.

He couldn't walk back his overheated rhetoric fast enough. He's so very very sorry.

I normally don't approve of active-duty military getting involved in the political process but Ryan made it personal so I understand their response.
 
1.1 trillion?

:eek:

By the time they're ready to deliver these, drone technology may be advanced enough that we will not really need them.
 
1.1 trillion?

:eek:

By the time they're ready to deliver these, drone technology may be advanced enough that we will not really need them.
Yep, a very, very, big, scary number! Spread over a fifty-year projected operational life and rising because some acquisitions are being deferred "to save money." :rolleyes:

The aircraft the f-35 is going to replace won't last another fifty years -- some are pushing 40 already -- and every year before they are replaced adds another $100 billion or so to the cost of acquiring and operating replacements.
 
Seems everybody is backing out of this deal. Its getting too expensive...Canada is about to pull out as well but there is nothing else to buy right now
 
Maybe this fighter is not really what we should be investing in?Joint Strike Fighter
"Operating and support costs alone are now expected to reach about $1.1 trillion, up from last year's estimate of $1 trillion, according to a Pentagon report to Congress."

Highlighted.... You could be right...

I worked for a large defense contractor, I always considered my paycheck to be welfare, payed for by the taxpayers.

I reconciled that by saying.... I'm working for my welfare.

Many folks are not working for their welfare.
 
Highlighted.... You could be right...

I worked for a large defense contractor, I always considered my paycheck to be welfare, payed for by the taxpayers.

I reconciled that by saying.... I'm working for my welfare.

Many folks are not working for their welfare.

*facepalm*
 
How about everybody who talk about spending, cuts, savings and revenues talk about them in the same freaking time frame? Is that too much to ask?
 
Highlighted.... You could be right...

I worked for a large defense contractor, I always considered my paycheck to be welfare, payed for by the taxpayers.

I reconciled that by saying.... I'm working for my welfare.

Many folks are not working for their welfare.

Do you have your shoes labeled Left and Right before you take them home?
 
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In WWII, the P-51 Mustang prototype was designed and built in 90 days, and by the end of the war the unit price per aircraft was something like $50,000 which was about 40x the per capita income in America in '45. The aircraft type saw front line combat and National Guard service for about ten years in the US, twenty years or more in the arsenals of 3rd world countries.

An F-35 costs about $200m to build, which is over 5000x the per capita income today.

And our main foreign enemy attacks us with homemade bombs, while our main domestic enemies attack us with political correctness propaganda.
 
Maybe we ought to leave it up to the people we spend millions training to know what we need and don't need, and tell the other hogs at the trough, who can't see past their own personal interests, that the national defense comes first.

Hogs = Congress.
 
Maybe we ought to leave it up to the people we spend millions training to know what we need and don't need, and tell the other hogs at the trough, who can't see past their own personal interests, that the national defense comes first.

Terrible plan and you know it.
 
Maybe we ought to leave it up to the people we spend millions training to know what we need and don't need, and tell the other hogs at the trough, who can't see past their own personal interests, that the national defense comes first.

I agree. Carter, with his long career as a naval officer, was much better qualified to make those assessments than any president since Eisenhower.
 
I would note that it's a beautiful day, and I'm the only one in the office.

Reason #75 why I'm shutting this operation down this year and staying home.
 
Any one know from which budget the $$ comes out of with which the Obama administration is underwriting the violent overthrow of the Syrian government?
 
1.1 trillion is a bit steep but is this the cost of the entire program or the cost to America? There are other contries involved, thus the Joint in the name.
 
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