may I offer hauki's

[a_liveyet]

such as this one,

I have been reading the forums for a few tears or was that years







Is this truly sublime

my tasting you, embracing you

your nectar spilling

 

[Tathagata]

Your nectar spilling
iredescent in moonlight
far off train whistle

 

[Angeline]

Your nectar spilling
iredescent in moonlight
far off train whistle

dawn spills its nectar
against the last moon of sky
whistling like trains

 

[Tathagata]

dawn spills its nectar
against the last moon of sky
whistling like trains

whistling like trains
mourning doves keep watch in elms
sunlight on your hair

 

[Angeline]

whistling like trains
mourning doves keep watch in elms
sunlight on your hair

the glinting sun shades
redgold into the darkness
the day laughs, careless

 

[Tathagata]

the glinting sun shades
redgold into the darkness
the day laughs, careless

the day laughs,careless
leaves flutter, a million fans
you sit in the shade

 

[Reltne]

sitting in the shade
watching butterflies at play
ice clinks in the glass

 

[DeepAsleep]

five days' madness
of itching teeth and sweaty eyes
just to see your legs.

 

[perks]

haiku is more than
a three lined syllable count
you rank amateurs

 

[Tathagata]

haiku is more than
a three lined syllable count
you rank amateurs

the sounds of thunder
not so scary when you see
nothing but hot air

 

[perks]

the sounds of thunder
not so scary when you see
nothing but hot air

You are too funny
syllable speaker
who has no season

 

[Tathagata]

You are too funny
syllable speaker
who has no season

seasons like all else
a matter of opinion
different illusions

 

[perks]

seasons like all else
a matter of opinion
different illusions

so even without
following all the structure
it's still a haiku?

a sonnet without
iambic pentameter
is still a sonnet

 

[Tathagata]

so even without
following all the structure
it's still a haiku?

a sonnet without
iambic pentameter
is still a sonnet

are these your versions
of whats non rank amatuer
non structure haiku?



Main Entry: hai·ku
Pronunciation: 'hI-(")kü
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural haiku
Etymology: Japanese
: an unrhymed verse form of Japanese origin having three lines containing usually 5, 7, and 5 syllables respectively; also : a poem in this form usually having a seasonal reference -- compare TANKA

there are many forms of haiku
many have a seasonal refrence
other refer to the transitory nature of life
still others in the Zen style capture the " suchness" of the " now"

not working in japanese we are forced to use the rhyme scheme only
and it is more as an excercise and for fun not serious haiku

I have written in 3-5-3 and 5-7-5 style

so in answer to your question
anything written in the pattern " is" technically haiku

i assumed with all the challenges here and hyper sonnets and BOB poems
there would be room for, "american" haiku

 

[Reltne]

5 - 7 - 5 not,
season connects with nature
syllables don't count

 

[perks]

are these your versions
of whats non rank amatuer
non structure haiku?



Main Entry: hai·ku
Pronunciation: 'hI-(")kü
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural haiku
Etymology: Japanese
: an unrhymed verse form of Japanese origin having three lines containing usually 5, 7, and 5 syllables respectively; also : a poem in this form usually having a seasonal reference -- compare TANKA

there are many forms of haiku
many have a seasonal refrence
other refer to the transitory nature of life
still others in the Zen style capture the " suchness" of the " now"

not working in japanese we are forced to use the rhyme scheme only
and it is more as an excercise and for fun not serious haiku

I have written in 3-5-3 and 5-7-5 style

so in answer to your question
anything written in the pattern " is" technically haiku

i assumed with all the challenges here and hyper sonnets and BOB poems
there would be room for, "american" haiku

rank amateur fit
in my joking syllables
haiku is still more

 

[WickedEve]

5 - 7 - 5 not,
season connects with nature
syllables don't count

The least amount of syllables/words, and still making your point, is best.

 

[Reltne]

may I offer "hauki's"

Pointing out what is
a question about "Hauki's"
Anything may be

 

[Reltne]

The least amount of syllables/words, and still making your point, is best.

Minimalism
is
Haiku not

 

[Tathagata]

basho

Sleep on horseback,
The far moon in a continuing dream,
Steam of roasting tea.



Even a wild boar
With all other things
Blew in this storm.




Bush clover in blossom waves
Without spilling
A drop of dew.



show me the season

 

[WickedEve]

Minimalism
is
Haiku not

That's why I don't do haiku. lol

 

[Reltne]

Re: basho

Sleep on horseback,
The far moon in a continuing dream,
Steam of roasting tea.



Even a wild boar
With all other things
Blew in this storm.




Bush clover in blossom waves
Without spilling
A drop of dew.



show me the season

The last one is easy. "clover in blossom" is a season designator. I suppose in the first "far moon" could be too, or is tea harvested at a special time? The middle one I don't even understand, but I wonder about a time of storms and a connection with wild boars.

In truth, I am told it is impossible to truly understand Haiku unless you understand Japanese (which I don't.)

Where is Jthserra when he is needed?

 

[Tathagata]

Re: Re: basho

The last one is easy. "clover in blossom" is a season designator. I suppose in the first "far moon" could be too, or is tea harvested at a special time? The middle one I don't even understand, but I wonder about a time of storms and a connection with wild boars.

In truth, I am told it is impossible to truly understand Haiku unless you understand Japanese (which I don't.)

Where is Jthserra when he is needed?

it is impossible to write haiku unless written in Japanese
I agree
i just had this discussion with perks

she suggested we call it 575 poetry
or 17 poetry
which I have no objection to
people get all bent out of shape over haiku
as if writing it another way dimishes its impact or granduer
you can write haiku unless you have some insight into a Zen mind also...but how many here have that?
It was just for fun



and another basho to chew on

At the ancient pond
a frog plunges into
the sound of water

all we can devine from this is that it is not winter

 

[Reltne]

Okie Dokie, Hokey Hauki

it is impossible to write haiku unless written in Japanese
I agree
i just had this discussion with perks

she suggested we call it 575 poetry
or 17 poetry
which I have no objection to
people get all bent out of shape over haiku
as if writing it another way dimishes its impact or granduer
you can write haiku unless you have some insight into a Zen mind also...but how many here have that?
It was just for fun



and another basho to chew on

At the ancient pond
a frog plunges into
the sound of water

all we can devine from this is that it is not winter

I like that one, very Zen, I wonder if the frog was clapped with one hand?

Why not call it "Hauki" in honor of the thread starter?
There is no rule that says the poem must be of 5 - 7 - 5 form, but must it be balanced with the first and third of equal length?

 

[Angeline]

What is any poem?
If my words cannot move you,
explain what they're worth...