Max Hardcore

[Marquis]

I am curious as to what you all think of the pornography done by Max Hardcore. I'll hold my own opinion till I hear a few responses.

 

[A Desert Rose]

I am curious as to what you all think of the pornography done by Max Hardcore. I'll hold my own opinion till I hear a few responses.

~~~~~~Tell me where to look, please? I am an artist and would love to see this.

Thanks,
Rose

 

[Lancecastor]

Looks like the same tired old....

....internet porn skank to me:

Here's the intro blurb from maxhardcore.com:

"There's some powerful porn on the net, but there's only one Max Hardcore!® With hundreds of movies since 1990, Max doesn't just push just the limits, he blasts thru them, as he shows the world how to bone the bitches right!
Max's girls get savagely sodomized, fully fisted, thoroughly throat-fucked, guzzle piss, and even suck the slime right out of their own asses!
You won't find a collection of worn-out whores here! these are cute cunts with awesome bods, shaved slots, and they get their asses totally torn up!
Whether you like miniskirts and high heels --- or pigtails and pom-poms, see them all reduced to slime covered sluts!
So get with the program today, and see the bitches get furiously fucked the way they deserve --- with Max Hardcore! "

Blah blah.....he seems to be known for being prosecuted over distribution of his product as much as anything else:

http://www.ainews.com/story/3636/

On the upside, going to his site only launched three or four subordinate ad pages... and when I closed the main window, it didn't crash my machine with a spurt of fresh creamy windows launching at me.

I hate internet pron. It demeans women.

Lance

 

[A Desert Rose]

well thanks

I won't go there then. that ended that real fast. LOL

Rose

 

[Lancecastor]

Now, if you dig online art.....

....you simply must go to hell.com.

Getting invited to see the main exhibits is sometimes difficult, but it's my favorite original online art website, bar none.

It's one of the only places on the worldwideweeb that can evoke feelings in me.

Lance

 

[Marquis]

Are there no other opinions on this? Really people, are the authors of the lit stories and the posters on the lit board even on the same planet?

 

[cymbidia]

Are there no other opinions on this? Really people, are the authors of the lit stories and the posters on the lit board even on the same planet?

Ahem. There are a lot of us who post here regularly who also have authored a bunch of the stories on this site.

I'd never heard of "Max Hardcore" before i opened this thread. A name like that would put me off going to look at it in the first place, to be honest. I've seen fucking and sucking; what else could a name like that be offering? I look for well-done, real world oriented BDSM porn when i'm looking for porn. Plain ole fucking and sucking is kinda...boring.

But to be fair to you, i went to go look. I started with google and got a zillion hits on the search parameter "Max Hardcore".

I chose one at random off the first page and was whisked into the foyer of a pay site. Fifteen gazillon "Lusty Hot YOUNG Teens Get It ON!" and "Busty Babes Share Deep Kisses!" kinda popup windows immediately littered my screen. I spent a couple frustrating minutes trying to rid my computer of all traces of that unfortunate link.

Wary now, i looked for the actual Max Hardcore web page, if there was one, in the hope that i might run into less of a popup window ambush.

1. Found it.
2. Went.
3. Fought my way through three popup windows.
4. Found that it's a pay site, too.
5. Took the tour.
6. Saw some pretty good pics, as far as such things go, in the tour. A lot of anal. A lot of piss play. A lot of open mouths. A lot of women made up to look like little girls (if you squint your eyes). Saw some fisting. Saw some dental open-mouth type appliances. Four pages, four pics per page, can't enlarge them.
7. Went back to the front page and noticed that one could buy videos and toys at this site, too.
8. Checked out the toys. Here are the catregories:
Accessories
Anal Toys
Bondage
DVD's
Female Toys
Games & Books
Herbal
Kama Sutra
Lingerie
Lubes & Condoms
Novelties
Male Toys
Rings & Dongs
Vibrators
Videos
Video on Demand
Clearance Items

The bondage department contained four subcategories:
Fun Accessories
Restraints & Collars
Rings & Cages
Whips & Masks

In all, there were approximately 45 items for sale in this section of Max's store. A few things caught my interest (velcro thighcuffs for $30) or made me giggle (edible gummy crotchless panties? ) though all the old tired stuff was there, too (metal police style handcuffs, airline-style blindfolds, screw & tension spring nipple clamps). They have a bunch of fun kinda stuff, though, in vibrant colors (hot pink or electric blue latex floggers) and materials (satin collar, metal handcuffs wrapped in blue "fur"). I can find all this stuff, or good-enough-for-me approximations, locally or at online toy stores with whom i've been doing business for years.

In my opinion, the bottom line for me is that the official Max Hardcore website is a porno pay site with a toy store. Unfortunately, i think that most of us already have most of the toys that are of interest in that toystore - or we know where to buy them less expensively.

 

[tassie]

max hardcore is a sick mysoginistic bastard who has no concept of decency and goes beyond anything i can bring myself to watch or read (okay, again, i went to his site once as part of a discussion with a mate). the girls llok under age and look frankly terrified.

it gave me the creeps.

 

[P. B. Walker]

Max Hardcore is definitely a pretty twisted dude. I'm not sure how he fits into the BDSM forum. He's more into the outrageous sick XXX fucking. I've seen a few movies that he was in and truthfully I wasn't all that turned on. I take that back now that I think about it... he would fit in big with the humiliation factor. If that's your thing, then you will love ole Max. I don't imagine many people would like his stuff.

PBW "I'm cornoholio... master of the TP"

 

[Marquis]

I don't know how the idea came about that Max was mainly an internet pornographer. He makes videos, but like most video pornographers, he has a website to supplement his income.

Anyway, I'll make a big post on this later as I have my graduate class in philosophies of feminism now (no, that was not a joke).

 

[A Desert Rose]

no joke?

LMAO- well it should be a joke - it's too good not to be one.

Rose

I don't know how the idea came about that Max was mainly an internet pornographer. He makes videos, but like most video pornographers, he has a website to supplement his income.

Anyway, I'll make a big post on this later as I have my graduate class in philosophies of feminism now (no, that was not a joke).

 

[Lancecastor]

I just want to direct.

I don't know how the idea came about that Max was mainly an internet pornographer. He makes videos, but like most video pornographers, he has a website to supplement his income.

Anyway, I'll make a big post on this later as I have my graduate class in philosophies of feminism now (no, that was not a joke).

I'm not an internet pronographer either, but I play one on tv.

Really, I just want to direct.

As indicated in my initial post to this thread, Max is presently more about avoiding prosecution using the 1st Amendment than anything else.

You said you'd tell us what your views of Max Headcheese were....looking forward to reading same upon your return from school.

If you're going on a Panty Raid or are short-sheeting any beds tonite, drop my people a line, wouldya?

Thanks

Lance "Ooo how I love those firm fresh college minds!" Castor

 

[Marquis]

Personally, I like Max Hardcore a lot. His performances seem to genuine to be much of an act, so I doubt I would really like him as a person, but as an artist I think he is really talented.

For a messageboard on BDSM I am shocked at how politically correct you people are. When you guys play your bdsm games, what do you actually do? Kiss and massage each other? I mean really, am I confused as to what the acronym for BDSM even stands for?

Here's the deal. Max Hardcore is a guilty fantasy. My girlfriend and I roleplay during sex a lot and we enjoy watching Max Hardcore for inspiration. We are both feminists, but that has nothing to do with what gets us going in the bedroom. The fact of the matter is simply this, people get turned on by the ideas portrayed in his videos and while that may bring out a darker side of some people, it doesn't make a judgment on their beliefs or actions.

Why we like Max Hardcore? Unlike most porn, he's actually smart and creative. Like most guilty pleasures, he's almost campy in his approach to entertainment and this can mislead people into thinking it is just trash. Max Hardcore porn is the equivalent to a Schwarzenegger movie, its kind of corny if you think about it, but its pretty cool if you don't. But that doesn't change the fact that Max and Arny are both very talented at what they do.

I hope I am making myself clear, I fear I am not.

For example: A scene I really like in one Max movie is where he takes a girls lip stick, and applies it to her asshole like its her lips, then fucks her ass. This is a sordid twist on what is supposed to be a beacon of the womens empowerment movement. Max doesn't just dominate and humiliate the girl he's fucking, he tries to take power from them all.

The interesting thing is that at the end of most videos their is usually an interview with the girl of the movie where she talks about how much she enjoyed working with him. Just to remind you it isn't real I guess, in case you get any wrong ideas.

This is probably real disgusting to someone who isn't turned on by BDSM, but I think it should be great for someone who is. It sure fits my girlfriend and I's fantasy.

 

[Lancecastor]

Bingo....

....Marquis, you will indeed see a lot of BDSM Faux here, complete with the Betty Crocker PsuedoSub Kissy Face Collection.

Thanks for posting some examples...the lipstick on the starfish was quite funny and surely sounds like fun.

And there's no reason for BDSM not to be fun!

Welcome aboard....be yourself here....and never mind the PruneJuice Crowd....they'll be along soon enough.

C

Personally, I like Max Hardcore a lot. His performances seem to genuine to be much of an act, so I doubt I would really like him as a person, but as an artist I think he is really talented.

For a messageboard on BDSM I am shocked at how politically correct you people are. When you guys play your bdsm games, what do you actually do? Kiss and massage each other? I mean really, am I confused as to what the acronym for BDSM even stands for?

Here's the deal. Max Hardcore is a guilty fantasy. My girlfriend and I roleplay during sex a lot and we enjoy watching Max Hardcore for inspiration. We are both feminists, but that has nothing to do with what gets us going in the bedroom. The fact of the matter is simply this, people get turned on by the ideas portrayed in his videos and while that may bring out a darker side of some people, it doesn't make a judgment on their beliefs or actions.

Why we like Max Hardcore? Unlike most porn, he's actually smart and creative. Like most guilty pleasures, he's almost campy in his approach to entertainment and this can mislead people into thinking it is just trash. Max Hardcore porn is the equivalent to a Schwarzenegger movie, its kind of corny if you think about it, but its pretty cool if you don't. But that doesn't change the fact that Max and Arny are both very talented at what they do.

I hope I am making myself clear, I fear I am not.

For example: A scene I really like in one Max movie is where he takes a girls lip stick, and applies it to her asshole like its her lips, then fucks her ass. This is a sordid twist on what is supposed to be a beacon of the womens empowerment movement. Max doesn't just dominate and humiliate the girl he's fucking, he tries to take power from them all.

The interesting thing is that at the end of most videos their is usually an interview with the girl of the movie where she talks about how much she enjoyed working with him. Just to remind you it isn't real I guess, in case you get any wrong ideas.

This is probably real disgusting to someone who isn't turned on by BDSM, but I think it should be great for someone who is. It sure fits my girlfriend and I's fantasy.

 

[tassie]

hello marquis, im one of the faux bdsm / prune juice crowd (look lance i told you that in secret, i need it to keep me regular, ok???)

i watched it, i hated it, i still think he's a misoginistic cunt.

sorry if that makes me unworthy of the title of bdsm.

oh. and after 3 attempts i STILL cant spell mysogynistic.

 

[Lancecastor]

Unworthy vs StuckUp

sorry if that makes me unworthy of the title of bdsm.

I didn't read anything in Marquis' remarks to suggest he thought you/we were *unworthy*, Tassie.

But I did get the sense that, as is too often the case here, he didn't feel much of a warm welcome from we stuck-up, self-absorbed lot of prigs, did he?

And I rather liked his comment on the massage/kisses stuff....as you know I find things a wee bit Oprah-esque here myself.

Anyway, we're not unworthy, Tassie.....we're just snobs.

Lance

 

[Marquis]

I can't speak for Max Hardcore, but I know that I am definitely not a misogynist.

I respect women a great deal, and completely believe in gender equality.

That doesn't mean I don't want to desecrate and violate women in the unholiest of ways when we're fucking, but thats just me and I don't step on any toes.

 

[Lancecastor]

Now you're talkin!

We need more like You here, Marquis!

I share your views on gender equality and the need for, sound, unholy and regular rogering.

Welcome aboard! (Watch your stern!)

Lance

I can't speak for Max Hardcore, but I know that I am definitely not a misogynist.

I respect women a great deal, and completely believe in gender equality.

That doesn't mean I don't want to desecrate and violate women in the unholiest of ways when we're fucking, but thats just me and I don't step on any toes.

 

[Marquis]

LOL, thanks Lance.

 

[NemoAlia]

Sound, unholy rogerings sound good to me too. However, I still don't think that Max Hardcore does. In my opinion, pornographers who espouse an exchange of power based solely on gender have an extremely limited view of BDSM, and of sexuality in general. Regardless of the actions that appear on the screen (which in themselves are often parts of many private bedroom scenes), it is Hardcore's presentation of them that offends me with its narrow-minded, misogynist prejudices.

Moreover, in my opinion, the actresses' consent does not indicate anything about the quality of Hardcore's philosophy or work. It indicates, in my opinion, human adaptability and the will to survive.

Marquis, thank you for this thought-provoking thread. I, for one, believe that if we all took this sort of time to consider -- and to discuss -- the world around us, we wouldn't have to rely on the court system to protect us from ourselves. It's too bad that Max Hardcore has to go to trial in order for the world community really to think about his philosophy and what he represents. There should be more 'inquiring minds' like yours, Marquis!

 

[A Desert Rose]

it's all about what you like

I am an artist. I am sure many don't like my work. Well, swell. I happen to hate Thomas Kinkaide- he is to art what Barry Manilow is to music, in my opinion.

If you like this Max guy, swell for you. Because I am not into this type of cinema style, (and yes, I did go look) does not mean I am less of some kind of person you have pegged me to be. And I think no less of you for liking him. As a matter of fact, I don't even know you to have any kind of opinion. We are just names on the screen to each other, frankly.

It just boils down to what you like and don't like. And no one is going to change anyone's mind about it.

But thank you for bringing it up. I did go look and knowledge is what it should be all about to all of us.

Rose

 

[Marquis]

Firstly, Desert Rose, I dont know if you are talking to me or Lancecastor but I haven't pegged you to be anyone, nor have I made any judgments about you.

In my opinion, pornographers who espouse an exchange of power based solely on gender have an extremely limited view of BDSM, and of sexuality in general. Regardless of the actions that appear on the screen (which in themselves are often parts of many private bedroom scenes), it is Hardcore's presentation of them that offends me with its narrow-minded, misogynist prejudices.

I am not sure what you mean by this. Firstly, I don't agree that power exchanges based on gender are at all limited, its just his specialty. Besides its porno, they are not going to go into a multi-hour dialogue on how he mesmerizes these girls into being his subs. On top of that, gender isn't his only source of power. A lot of the movies feature other sources of authority other than the "Max the alpha male", like "Max the truant officer", "Max the doctor" and so forth.

Moreover, in my opinion, the actresses' consent does not indicate anything about the quality of Hardcore's philosophy or work. It indicates, in my opinion, human adaptability and the will to survive.

I don't know what you are talking about here. The girls aren't like "well I really needed the money for crack, and I was glad to have this oppurtunity to do it" they are like "Max is the man, I came so many fucking times." The simple fact of the matter is some girls like getting humiliated, punished and generally treated like whores and bitches. My girlfriend does.

Marquis, thank you for this thought-provoking thread. I, for one, believe that if we all took this sort of time to consider -- and to discuss -- the world around us, we wouldn't have to rely on the court system to protect us from ourselves. It's too bad that Max Hardcore has to go to trial in order for the world community really to think about his philosophy and what he represents. There should be more 'inquiring minds' like yours, Marquis!

Well thank you very much for the compliment. I am still surprised to see a BDSM community respond like this though. I mean, I honestly expected you guys to be much more hardcore than me. My girlfriend and I have never actually done anything really painful or lots of other things BDSM lovers often engage in.

 

[CarolineOh]

Personally, I like Max Hardcore a lot. His performances seem to genuine to be much of an act, so I doubt I would really like him as a person, but as an artist I think he is really talented.

For a messageboard on BDSM I am shocked at how politically correct you people are. When you guys play your bdsm games, what do you actually do? Kiss and massage each other? I mean really, am I confused as to what the acronym for BDSM even stands for?

Here's the deal. Max Hardcore is a guilty fantasy. My girlfriend and I roleplay during sex a lot and we enjoy watching Max Hardcore for inspiration. We are both feminists, but that has nothing to do with what gets us going in the bedroom. The fact of the matter is simply this, people get turned on by the ideas portrayed in his videos and while that may bring out a darker side of some people, it doesn't make a judgment on their beliefs or actions.

Why we like Max Hardcore? Unlike most porn, he's actually smart and creative. Like most guilty pleasures, he's almost campy in his approach to entertainment and this can mislead people into thinking it is just trash. Max Hardcore porn is the equivalent to a Schwarzenegger movie, its kind of corny if you think about it, but its pretty cool if you don't. But that doesn't change the fact that Max and Arny are both very talented at what they do.

I hope I am making myself clear, I fear I am not.

For example: A scene I really like in one Max movie is where he takes a girls lip stick, and applies it to her asshole like its her lips, then fucks her ass. This is a sordid twist on what is supposed to be a beacon of the womens empowerment movement. Max doesn't just dominate and humiliate the girl he's fucking, he tries to take power from them all.

The interesting thing is that at the end of most videos their is usually an interview with the girl of the movie where she talks about how much she enjoyed working with him. Just to remind you it isn't real I guess, in case you get any wrong ideas.

This is probably real disgusting to someone who isn't turned on by BDSM, but I think it should be great for someone who is. It sure fits my girlfriend and I's fantasy.

I am curious as to what you found "politically correct" about the responses on this thread. It ead to me as if people were expressing a personal preference, not espousing a philosophy.
The range within BDSM is great, and some people do not include humiliation, for example, in what they do. So they may not find the particulars of Max hardcore, to their liking, but I don't think that is any reason to question their commitment to their own concepts of BDSM.

 

[Lancecastor]

You will find....

...Marquis, that this is an "interesting" place.

I recommend you read the Sticky at the top of the Board.

Then re-read it, switching everything to the hypocritical negative, as in Orwell's 1984.....when it says the group here is "open and inclusive", for example, read "closed and exclusive".

I leave it to you to form your own opinions as to what you see here in the fullness of time and experience.

Me, though I'm not much for hardcore porn, I dig D/s power exchanges and kink, am interested in seeing you stick around and continuing to speak your mind freely for partially selfish reasons:

1. There aren't many men here with a voice; it's a female dominated community;

2. There is a fairly tight knit group of "oldies" here that run off newbies, especially those who espouse anything other than "their" brand of online BDSM, through just about every cheap trick in the book;

3. There are many who lurk here and don't post because of fear of what They will say, and you dont seem shaken by that prospect;

4. You seem to have backbone & a sense of humour, also relatively rare commodities here;

5. You actually practise real life BDSM and/or kink, and there are plenty here who talk all day in lengthy posts about taking first steps but have done diddly, which gets dull;

6. The Moderators can be heavy-handed, superior and bossy, particularly Cym, and very few get past scraping before her or leaving. In my case, thankfully, she ignores me. They have no real authority, so feel free to ignore them if you want. The owners have them watch for legal violations only as far as I can tell.

Those are my selfish, self serving reasons.

But, above all, I believe in Fun, Kink, Free Speech, the Internet, Debate and the Exchange of Diverse Ideas and I hope you do too.

Thanks for listening; all the best;
Lance

Firstly, Desert Rose, I dont know if you are talking to me or Lancecastor but I haven't pegged you to be anyone, nor have I made any judgments about you.




I am not sure what you mean by this. Firstly, I don't agree that power exchanges based on gender are at all limited, its just his specialty. Besides its porno, they are not going to go into a multi-hour dialogue on how he mesmerizes these girls into being his subs. On top of that, gender isn't his only source of power. A lot of the movies feature other sources of authority other than the "Max the alpha male", like "Max the truant officer", "Max the doctor" and so forth.



I don't know what you are talking about here. The girls aren't like "well I really needed the money for crack, and I was glad to have this oppurtunity to do it" they are like "Max is the man, I came so many fucking times." The simple fact of the matter is some girls like getting humiliated, punished and generally treated like whores and bitches. My girlfriend does.



Well thank you very much for the compliment. I am still surprised to see a BDSM community respond like this though. I mean, I honestly expected you guys to be much more hardcore than me. My girlfriend and I have never actually done anything really painful or lots of other things BDSM lovers often engage in.

 

[A Desert Rose]

Lance is right

Do stick around here. I would have not heard of this guy or his work had it not been for you. I am not opposed to learning and seeing new things, I just won't neccessarily like it always.

Rose