massage from a friend

[EnzoM3]

Both my wife and I have been getting massages from a really good friend of ours for a few years. She's licensed and does massages out of their house during the day and is really good. About maybe a year ago I was over there for my usual massage one day and she asked me if I mind using a towel instead of sheet for cover since she's out of clean ones. I joked that I don't need a towel if she's ok with it since we've all seen each other naked on several occasions nude in the hot tubs or swimming. I was still a little surprised she agreed to it. So I got my massage without any covers that day, and from then on we simply started doing our sessions that way without ever discussing the issue of drape again. I still get my woody here and there during the massages, especially when she's working on the thighs or the buttocks. At first I was a little embarrassed about it all stiff in the open rather than making a small tent under the sheet, but it never bothered her so I was cool with it too.

I usually go to her once a week for massage, so does my wife. We also hang out often, for dinner, going out, and wives goes shopping and other women things while the guys hang out play golf and stuff, etc.

About three month ago, she asked me if I want to try a new massage. I said sure I'm game for anything new at least once. So I lay down with my face in the cradle and she started massaging me. Then it's time to turn over and I found her as naked as I'm. I started getting up and talking at the same time but she simply pushes me back and down and put her finger on my lips and tells me to lay back and enjoy the massage. The massage was just as good as she always do but I get a nice visual treat, always thought she has a little nice body and great ass, and I was immediately sporting a hardon. She usually does a good job avoiding touching my cock during massages but this time there was a lot of accidental touching, which really strains my self control to not try to jack off. Then toward end of the massage she started to caress my cock and balls, and by no means doing it unintentional either. I was shocked for the second time, but this time didn't try to object. It didn't take long before I shot across my stomach. At end I got dressed and she put on a robe. I hugged her and kissed her cheek goodbye as usual but didn't know what else to say, it was too much to digest.

The week after, I arrived and she asked me which massage do I prefer. I asked if last week's massage was still available and she said sure. To make a long story short, since then we’ve been doing this new massage and she makes me orgasm at the end. This past session I asked her if she does this massage for anyone else, she told me only for me and my wife since she's comfortable around us and trust us to not do anything harmful.

She told me her husband doesn't know either, but she has no intention to take this any further, no intention to start any kind of affairs. She simply wanted to do this massage for us, and I should tell my wife. So I gather up the courage and tell my wife, and she laughs and said about time I get her special massage. She then told me she's been getting this massage from her for almost two years.

Now I can't stop picturing the two of them all naked and oily.

 

[KravMaga]

Both my wife and I have been getting massages from a really good friend of ours for a few years. She's licensed and does massages out of their house during the day and is really good. About maybe a year ago I was over there for my usual massage one day and she asked me if I mind using a towel instead of sheet for cover since she's out of clean ones. I joked that I don't need a towel if she's ok with it since we've all seen each other naked on several occasions nude in the hot tubs or swimming. I was still a little surprised she agreed to it. So I got my massage without any covers that day, and from then on we simply started doing our sessions that way without ever discussing the issue of drape again. I still get my woody here and there during the massages, especially when she's working on the thighs or the buttocks. At first I was a little embarrassed about it all stiff in the open rather than making a small tent under the sheet, but it never bothered her so I was cool with it too.

I usually go to her once a week for massage, so does my wife. We also hang out often, for dinner, going out, and wives goes shopping and other women things while the guys hang out play golf and stuff, etc.

About three month ago, she asked me if I want to try a new massage. I said sure I'm game for anything new at least once. So I lay down with my face in the cradle and she started massaging me. Then it's time to turn over and I found her as naked as I'm. I started getting up and talking at the same time but she simply pushes me back and down and put her finger on my lips and tells me to lay back and enjoy the massage. The massage was just as good as she always do but I get a nice visual treat, always thought she has a little nice body and great ass, and I was immediately sporting a hardon. She usually does a good job avoiding touching my cock during massages but this time there was a lot of accidental touching, which really strains my self control to not try to jack off. Then toward end of the massage she started to caress my cock and balls, and by no means doing it unintentional either. I was shocked for the second time, but this time didn't try to object. It didn't take long before I shot across my stomach. At end I got dressed and she put on a robe. I hugged her and kissed her cheek goodbye as usual but didn't know what else to say, it was too much to digest.

The week after, I arrived and she asked me which massage do I prefer. I asked if last week's massage was still available and she said sure. To make a long story short, since then we’ve been doing this new massage and she makes me orgasm at the end. This past session I asked her if she does this massage for anyone else, she told me only for me and my wife since she's comfortable around us and trust us to not do anything harmful.

She told me her husband doesn't know either, but she has no intention to take this any further, no intention to start any kind of affairs. She simply wanted to do this massage for us, and I should tell my wife. So I gather up the courage and tell my wife, and she laughs and said about time I get her special massage. She then told me she's been getting this massage from her for almost two years.

Now I can't stop picturing the two of them all naked and oily.

Neither can I

 

[FuckinRedneck]

Thanks alot...

Now what am I going to do with this?

<points at tent in trousers>

 

[ctguyx]

Enzo,you are in a very desirable position....no pun intended!

 

[KravMaga]

Did she tell you exactly what was going on.....like in detail.....? Inquring minds want to know!

 

[bi_asian_guy]

*****

 

[Etoile]

Happy endings are not particularly new! Be careful though, she could get in big trouble for giving you the happy ending. I remember a few years back here in DC there was a big raid on a massage parlor that was basically serving as a house of prostitution...a lot of licensed massage therapists will explicitly state that they are non-sexual because they can lose their license.

 

[Guest]

As a massage therapist... I have a hard time hearing about therapists abusing their certification or licensure by going against their professions ethical boundaries. On occasion I have come across clients who want more or try to touch and I give them a warning. The second time it's approached or they try to touch the session is over. The fact is when therapists abuse thier profession in this manner it makes it that much more difficult to be taken seriously as a therapist. This in turn creates a domino effect when it comes to nationwide state licensure being passed in states that do not require it as well as gaining the approval of insurance companies to cover massage therapy for those needed. There is also the issue of safey that could arise from a client expecting more than a massage, espeically for those therapists who work for themselves.


I worked hard to get where I am at in my business/practice/national boards and offer modalities ranging from relaxation to specialized lymph drainage. The focus of my practice is therapeutic and it clearly states on all client intake forms that I do not tolerate any improper advances or requests.
If a therapist does step outside of his or her boundaries, there are consequences they will face if caught. They will lose their standing in any professional organization, state and national licensure.

Maybe some think I'm too serious about this, but I feel ethical behavior is quite important and should not be crossed in my profession. I love my work and walk away with a sense of accomplishment when I see the results in my clients, watch them improve their health and help them take a proactive role in their own healing and wellness.


Love your AV Etoile...quite beautiful.

 

[Etoile]

Maybe some think I'm too serious about this, but I feel ethical behavior is quite important and should not be crossed in my profession. I love my work and walk away with a sense of accomplishment when I see the results in my clients, watch them improve their health and help them take a proactive role in their own healing and wellness.


Love your AV Etoile...quite beautiful.

That was a great post, I think you are right on. It is entirely inappropriate for a sex worker to masquerade as a massage therapist, because that demonstrates total disregard for the actual profession. I'm trying to come up with analogies and I can't right now, but suffice to say that "happy endings" are the domain of sex workers. In fact, it's even more risky for them to hide behind the veil of "massage," because if they are caught the penalties are greater - working as an unlicensed massage therapist and/or practicing health care without a license, in addition to the charges for prostitution (and sometimes rape). It's really just a bad idea for all concerned.

And thank you!

 

[EnzoM3]

Happy endings are not particularly new! Be careful though, she could get in big trouble for giving you the happy ending. I remember a few years back here in DC there was a big raid on a massage parlor that was basically serving as a house of prostitution...a lot of licensed massage therapists will explicitly state that they are non-sexual because they can lose their license.

I think that's why she's not doing it for any other clients, just us. We've been good friends for years. She's a great massage therapist even without the extras.

 

[EnzoM3]

As a massage therapist... I have a hard time hearing about therapists abusing their certification or licensure by going against their professions ethical boundaries. On occasion I have come across clients who want more or try to touch and I give them a warning. The second time it's approached or they try to touch the session is over. The fact is when therapists abuse thier profession in this manner it makes it that much more difficult to be taken seriously as a therapist. This in turn creates a domino effect when it comes to nationwide state licensure being passed in states that do not require it as well as gaining the approval of insurance companies to cover massage therapy for those needed. There is also the issue of safey that could arise from a client expecting more than a massage, espeically for those therapists who work for themselves.


I worked hard to get where I am at in my business/practice/national boards and offer modalities ranging from relaxation to specialized lymph drainage. The focus of my practice is therapeutic and it clearly states on all client intake forms that I do not tolerate any improper advances or requests.
If a therapist does step outside of his or her boundaries, there are consequences they will face if caught. They will lose their standing in any professional organization, state and national licensure.

Maybe some think I'm too serious about this, but I feel ethical behavior is quite important and should not be crossed in my profession. I love my work and walk away with a sense of accomplishment when I see the results in my clients, watch them improve their health and help them take a proactive role in their own healing and wellness.

I would worry about her if she's doing this for any clients that ask for it. The truth is she's quite professional when it comes to her work. Like I mentioned before, we've been friends for years and shared a lot experiences (non-sexual), traveled together many times, she and her husband was at the hospital when our daughter was born, etc. In my mind, what she's doing with our "new" massages is due to our friendship, not so much as clients. We still pay for her sessions as her normal rate, we went through this a long time ago, she didn't want to charge us but we refused to get massages from her without paying.

 

[deluxe3000]

Wow! Everyone's getting their undies in a bundle over some happy endings. Think of it like this: Enzo has a friend with benefits who happens to also be a masseuse. The masseuse is free to do whatever she wants, including giving her long time friends some happy endings. Sheesh. Thatgirl, you have decided not to give massages that are sexual and that works for you. Etoile, trying to scare Enzo and his friend by telling about raids and all that is off the mark. This is a sexual discussion forum and anything between consenting adults that doesn't hurt or harm anyone is what it's all about.

Life is short. I think that Thatgirl and Etoile are just jealous that they didn't get a happy ending!

 

[bi_asian_guy]

*****

 

[webber1998]

I had a GF for a short while that was a massage therapist. While it was great to get the massage now and then, she was adamant that no sexual escapades take place in her home massage work area. It was strictly for a massage only. Lets face it, that area was her work site and what paid her bills.

 

[Guest]

Since the masseuse in question is providing happy endings in private to two specific individuals she is close to, I doubt a professional organization should have any say in it. Do you not use some of your acquired skills on your lover(s)?

There is a huge difference between running a massage parlour that actively supports or advertises its "extras" and what this person is doing. Etoile's point about the massive raid on that massage parlour is non sequitur.

There are a lot worse ethics violations described on all of these forums than what these individuals have done. Marriage vows broken, cheating on and lying to lovers, etc. Let's not start pointing fingers at these individuals first.

If she is licensed and he is paying for massage sessions and she is going beyond standard practices of massage therapy... then she is violating the standards and ethics she is involved in as a member of the massage therapy profession. That is the problem... when we graduated we had to take an oath and be sworn in during a ceremony which details our ethical boundaries. So I will stand by what I said.

And like Webber said... I give my husband massages... and I have given friends massages as well, but I never have crossed that boundary and never will, because I hold my profession in the highest regard and respect the standards by which we are to practice.

 

[Guest]

Standards of Practice & Ethical Guidelines...

National Board for Therapeutic Massage & Bodyworkers - Code of Ethics

National Board for Therapeutic Massage & Bodyworkers - Standards of Practice

American Massage Therapy Association - Code of Ethics

American Massage Therapy Association - Standards of Practice

There are other organizations which have similar standards of practices and code of ethics, which in our profession we are to abide by, not to mention the oath we take before we start to practice outside of graduation.

Then there is state licensure... which has their own very strict guidelines and if the state requires a therapist to be licensed ... go to the State's Department of Professional Regulation and look at their rules. You will clearly see it isn't allowed.

Those are just some... and I do take it seriously.

 

[tink7599]

If she is licensed and he is paying for massage sessions and she is going beyond standard practices of massage therapy... then she is violating the standards and ethics she is involved in as a member of the massage therapy profession. That is the problem... when we graduated we had to take an oath and be sworn in during a ceremony which details our ethical boundaries. So I will stand by what I said.

And like Webber said... I give my husband massages... and I have given friends massages as well, but I never have crossed that boundary and never will, because I hold my profession in the highest regard and respect the standards by which we are to practice.

EXACTLY
I am Trained as a Massage Therapist, though I have not become licensed yet, and it sounds to me as if She has become to personal with her clients and lost her professional boundaries. Becoming involved with a client can cause you to lose your license and your credibilty.

 

[Etoile]

Wow! Everyone's getting their undies in a bundle over some happy endings. Think of it like this: Enzo has a friend with benefits who happens to also be a masseuse. The masseuse is free to do whatever she wants, including giving her long time friends some happy endings. Sheesh. Thatgirl, you have decided not to give massages that are sexual and that works for you. Etoile, trying to scare Enzo and his friend by telling about raids and all that is off the mark. This is a sexual discussion forum and anything between consenting adults that doesn't hurt or harm anyone is what it's all about.

Life is short. I think that Thatgirl and Etoile are just jealous that they didn't get a happy ending!

You refer to her as a friend with benefits who happens to be a masseuse. It sounds to me like she is a friend who is a masseuse, and the friendship is turning sexual but it's taking place under the auspices of her job. That's what I find inappropriate. If they want to get it on, I am all for it. But making it part of her job is unethical and illegal. As ThatGirl has pointed out, the masseuse's oath prohibits her from doing it as part of her job. IMHO they should be kept completely separate. I'm not saying Enzo can't boink his masseuse, I'm saying she shouldn't be bringing sex into her professional contact with him. And yes, based on what I've heard, it does sound like it's all her fault. She's the one who knows what her code of ethics says, not him.

Enzo has taken pains (now) to emphasize the closeness of their relationship, so I can certainly see why it is turning sexual, and that's fine. But as has been said - he is paying her and she is giving him an orgasm. That makes it prostitution, period. She should know better.

As for this being a sexual discussion forum and the possibility that I am just jealous - all I can say is pffft.

 

[bi_asian_guy]

*****

 

[brw02]

I think some people have got their braids a little too tight.

 

[EnzoM3]

I personally don't think there is anything wrong with it. What little guilt I had went away after telling my wife and she didn't disapprove it. I still think she's a great massage therapist and I recommend her to anyone who wants a massage. And I'm not going to tell her to stop the extras unless she wants to end it.

 

[CaribbeanStudd]

Very hot!~

 

[DuckLover]

Ethics

Enzo has taken pains (now) to emphasize the closeness of their relationship, so I can certainly see why it is turning sexual, and that's fine. But as has been said - he is paying her and she is giving him an orgasm. That makes it prostitution, period. She should know better.

Would it still be wrong for her to continue giving him orgasms during massages if he stops paying her or she stops accepting payment?

I'm with Etoile, tink, and ThatGirl-- the "happy ending" handjob is inappropriate. I don't see it being really any different than if your doctor (esp. BO/GYN or urologist) got you off during an office visit. You are there for their professional services; money is being exchanged and that makes it a business arrangement, regulated by professional standards and ethics. If sexual gratification is involved, then it's prostitution.

Now, bi_asian_guy makes a good point: If no money is exchanged (or other bartering) then I see it as two friends and they can do whatever they want. I've given lovers massages before and I'm sure massage therapists do also. There's nothing unethical there. (There's no vow of celibacy at massage school graduation that I'VE ever heard about!)

-DL

 

[rjp44]

Why be so uptight about it? They are friends and it's just some harmless sex...Bill C. wouldn't even consider that having sex.....lol.

 

[BigGuyPA44]

I think some of you are being over protective of your profession. I am an accountant. I had a neighbor friend who needed some help with her business and hired me to provide standard services, for which she paid a standard fee. One day I dropped off some work late in the day on the way home (a normal service) and she offered me a drink which developed into a blowjob...does that make me a whore?