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From www.internationalist.org


Last night, U.S. president George Bush Jr. launched the long-announced invasion of
Iraq. The huge expeditionary force assembled by the United States and Britain in the
Arab/Persian Gulf is on the march to seize Iraq and place it under imperialist
occupation. The invaders’ bombs are raining down on the population of Baghdad.
Now the U.S. is cynically preparing to install a military dictatorship in the name of
“democracy.” They intend to finance it with billions of oil dollars looted from the
Iraqis.

In this war of imperialist rape and conquest, working people and the oppressed
around the world have a side. The Internationalist Group/U.S. and League for the
Fourth International call to mobilize workers power in defense of semi-colonial Iraq
and for the defeat of the imperialist butchers who are laying waste to the besieged
Near Eastern country.

The sociopathic mass murderers in the White House and Pentagon have planned an
Armageddon on the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. The head of the Joint Chiefs of
Staff announced that 3,000 “precision-guided bombs” are to be unleashed in the first
48 hours of aerial bombardment of Baghdad. This U.S. strategy of “shock and awe”
is copied straight from the Nazis’ doctrine of “Schrecklichkeit,” trying to terrorize
the population into surrender. What Bush intends is precisely a Hitler-style Blitzkrieg
(lightning war)

The war on Iraq is also a war on labor, minorities and immigrants “at home.”
Class-conscious workers must fight for full citizenship rights for all immigrants, and
for worker-immigrant defense against chauvinist attacks such as occurred after the
September 11 indiscriminate attack on the World Trade Center.

Wall Street and Washington’s war is already being used as an excuse to impose
police-state measures in the United States and the rest of the imperialist powers.
Military forces stationed in the cities, indefinite detention without charges, star
chamber trials, a huge increase in police spying on political activists, arrests and
deportations of thousands of immigrants are already being carried out under the
U.S.A. Patriot Act. Accusations of sedition and subversion will be hurled at striking
workers defending their rights. And now U.S. rulers are preparing a Patriot Act II to
remove the citizenship of those who oppose their bloody aggression.

The war of the capitalist-imperialist bosses must be answered with a class war by
those whom they exploit and oppress. Many millions of people have repeatedly
marched in opposition to this war in demonstrations that are bigger than at the height
of protests against the Vietnam War. But pacifist peace crawls, no matter how
large, will not stop the imperialist warmongers. Civil disobedience, in turn, is
ultimately a futile appeal to the “conscience” of the capitalist murderers. Their
butchery can only be stopped by mobilization of a greater power, that of the
international proletariat that has the strength and social position to bring the war
machine to a grinding halt.

Like the war on Afghanistan and the U.S.-led NATO war on Yugoslavia, these
imperialist wars have been waged by the twin parties of U.S. capitalism, Democrats
and Republicans alike. While organizers of the official “peace” marches routinely
appeal to bourgeois politicians like Democrats Jesse Jackson and Barbara Lee, and
march to the offices of Senator Hillary Clinton, begging the “liberal” capitalist
politicos, whose hands are drenched with blood, can only mislead those who would
fight against imperialist war.

The IG/LFI has called from the outset for labor to “hot cargo” (refuse to handle)
war materiel and for workers’ strikes against the war. In recent months, railway
workers in Britain and Italy mobilized to stop the transport of war cargo. These
actions inspired militant workers internationally. Now it is urgently necessary to go
beyond this to undertake combative strike action against the war and the
governments who are waging it. Today, hundreds of thousands of Italian workers
walked off the job and joined in antiwar mobilizations in the principal cities. Wildcat
labor actions against the war are reported from Britain. Tomorrow a Europe-wide
“general strike” has been called to protest the war. But whether it is measured in
minutes or a few hours, this is merely a symbolic action. All-out workers mobilization
is called for to defeat the capitalist rulers and their war.

The fact is that support for the war is extremely narrow. The populations of Britain,
Italy and Spain are heavily opposed to the war in which their own governments are
participating. Even in the United States, opinion polls show that a majority of the
population of New York City (and almost three-quarters of NYC blacks) opposes
the war, as do even larger percentages on the West Coast. Numerous local and
state labor councils and national unions have passed resolutions against the war and
the accompanying attack on civil liberties. Even the AFL-CIO approved a mealy
mouthed “antiwar” statement. But paper statements mean nothing to the Bush gang.
Militant labor action, such as shutting down the docks, would galvanize the
widespread discontent.

The U.S.’ erstwhile imperialist allies (now rivals) France and Germany and the
rulers of capitalist Russia cooed like peace doves in the United Nations, but they are
now busily mending fences with Washington, hoping to get in on the postwar plunder
of Iraq. They only wanted to delay the war so they could have a say in the war
councils, which Bush haughtily denied them. In fact, they together with the
bureaucrats of the Chinese deformed workers state all voted for UN Security
Council Resolution 1441 in the name of which the U.S. is waging this obscene war.

The European imperialists are no saviors of the Iraqi people, any more than they are
of the oppressed Palestinians under the boot of the Israeli Zionist occupiers in the
West Bank and Gaza. The “United Nations,” meanwhile, served as a cover for
imperialist slaughter in Korea (3 million Koreans dead), for the assassination of
Congolese independence leader Patrice Lumumba and for imposing imperialist
protectorates in the former Yugoslavia. We demand that all U.S., British, UN and
other imperialist military forces get the hell out of the Near East, now!

The war on Iraq is centrally aimed at locking in U.S. imperialist domination of a
New World Order. Washington wants its hand on the Near East oil tap so that it can
control its rivals from Tokyo to Berlin and Paris. As we have warned from the
outset, war on Iraq is intensifying interimperialist rivalries, pointing to a Third World
War between nuclear-armed powers. Next on Washington’s target list is North
Korea, followed by Cuba, Vietnam and above all China. As Trotskyists, we defend
the North Korean, Cuban, Vietnamese and Chinese deformed workers states
against imperialist threats and aggression, while fighting for workers political
revolution to oust the bureaucracies that conciliate the imperialists and internal
capitalist forces and thereby open the door to counterrevolution.

Saddam Hussein is a nationalist capitalist ruler little different from many tinpot
dictators who have routinely been supported by the imperialists in the past, such as
the Pinochet dictatorship in Chile and the Videla junta in Argentina each of which
killed tens of thousands of leftists with U.S. approval. Upon taking power in 1970
with the backing of Washington, Hussein unleashed terror against communists using
lists supplied by the CIA. The chemical weapons he is accused of having were
supplied to him by the U.S. government for use against the Iranians. The plants
which produced such weapons were built by German and British companies. The
many crimes of Hussein are the crimes of the imperialists who backed him. And it
will take revolution by the Iraqi workers, Sunni and Shi’ite alike, mobilized
independently of and against the imperialist aggressors to put an end to the likes of
Hussein and his former patrons.

In Palestine, the Israeli militarists have intensified the brutal occupation of the West
Bank and Gaza, killing thousands. The Sharon regime has been waiting for the war
on Iraq to begin the mass “transfer” (ethnic cleansing) of tens of thousands of
Palestinians, whom the Zionists want to drive out of their ancestral homes as they
did in the 1948 war. Revolutionary Trotskyists defend the oppressed Palestinian
population in their uprising against the Zionist jackboot, and fight for an
Arab-Hebrew workers republic in a socialist federation of the Near East. Such a
federation would also make possible a united socialist republic of Kurdistan.

From the Near East to the imperialist centers, the key to combating this imperialist
war of aggression is the building of revolutionary workers parties like the Bolsheviks
of V.I. Lenin and Leon Trotsky. During the carnage of World War I, the Bolsheviks
fought to turn the imperialist war into a civil war, fighting for the defeat of “their
own” imperialist rulers. This internationalist program enabled them to carry out the
first successful workers revolution in history, the October Revolution of 1***. It was
the destruction of the bureaucratically degenerated Soviet Union during 1989-92 that
set the stage for Bush Sr.’s 1990-91 Gulf War. Today, it is necessary to take up the
Bolshevik banner to reforge an authentically Trotskyist Fourth International that can
end imperialist war through international socialist revolution.

Radical youth who want to fight against imperialist war and get rid of the capitalist
system that spawns it should join in the struggle to mobilize the tremendous power of
the working class against the bloody war criminals whose drive for global domination
threatens all the peoples of the world.

Defend Iraq! Defeat U.S. Imperialism!
For workers strikes against the war!

– 20 March 2003
 
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Iraq Body Count lists the civilian casualties at a maximum of 199.

And we're long past the first 48 hours. In fact, IBC is counting from the first of the year.

TB4p
 
REDWAVE said:
From www.internationalist.org


Last night, U.S. president George Bush Jr. launched the long-announced invasion of
Iraq. The huge expeditionary force assembled by the United States and Britain in the
Arab/Persian Gulf is on the march to seize Iraq and place it under imperialist
occupation. The invaders’ bombs are raining down on the population of Baghdad.
Now the U.S. is cynically preparing to install a military dictatorship in the name of
“democracy.” They intend to finance it with billions of oil dollars looted from the
Iraqis.

In this war of imperialist rape and conquest, working people and the oppressed
around the world have a side. The Internationalist Group/U.S. and League for the
Fourth International call to mobilize workers power in defense of semi-colonial Iraq
and for the defeat of the imperialist butchers who are laying waste to the besieged
Near Eastern country.

The sociopathic mass murderers in the White House and Pentagon have planned an
Armageddon on the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. The head of the Joint Chiefs of
Staff announced that 3,000 “precision-guided bombs” are to be unleashed in the first
48 hours of aerial bombardment of Baghdad. This U.S. strategy of “shock and awe”
is copied straight from the Nazis’ doctrine of “Schrecklichkeit,” trying to terrorize
the population into surrender. What Bush intends is precisely a Hitler-style Blitzkrieg
(lightning war)

The war on Iraq is also a war on labor, minorities and immigrants “at home.”
Class-conscious workers must fight for full citizenship rights for all immigrants, and
for worker-immigrant defense against chauvinist attacks such as occurred after the
September 11 indiscriminate attack on the World Trade Center.

Wall Street and Washington’s war is already being used as an excuse to impose
police-state measures in the United States and the rest of the imperialist powers.
Military forces stationed in the cities, indefinite detention without charges, star
chamber trials, a huge increase in police spying on political activists, arrests and
deportations of thousands of immigrants are already being carried out under the
U.S.A. Patriot Act. Accusations of sedition and subversion will be hurled at striking
workers defending their rights. And now U.S. rulers are preparing a Patriot Act II to
remove the citizenship of those who oppose their bloody aggression.

The war of the capitalist-imperialist bosses must be answered with a class war by
those whom they exploit and oppress. Many millions of people have repeatedly
marched in opposition to this war in demonstrations that are bigger than at the height
of protests against the Vietnam War. But pacifist peace crawls, no matter how
large, will not stop the imperialist warmongers. Civil disobedience, in turn, is
ultimately a futile appeal to the “conscience” of the capitalist murderers. Their
butchery can only be stopped by mobilization of a greater power, that of the
international proletariat that has the strength and social position to bring the war
machine to a grinding halt.

Like the war on Afghanistan and the U.S.-led NATO war on Yugoslavia, these
imperialist wars have been waged by the twin parties of U.S. capitalism, Democrats
and Republicans alike. While organizers of the official “peace” marches routinely
appeal to bourgeois politicians like Democrats Jesse Jackson and Barbara Lee, and
march to the offices of Senator Hillary Clinton, begging the “liberal” capitalist
politicos, whose hands are drenched with blood, can only mislead those who would
fight against imperialist war.

The IG/LFI has called from the outset for labor to “hot cargo” (refuse to handle)
war materiel and for workers’ strikes against the war. In recent months, railway
workers in Britain and Italy mobilized to stop the transport of war cargo. These
actions inspired militant workers internationally. Now it is urgently necessary to go
beyond this to undertake combative strike action against the war and the
governments who are waging it. Today, hundreds of thousands of Italian workers
walked off the job and joined in antiwar mobilizations in the principal cities. Wildcat
labor actions against the war are reported from Britain. Tomorrow a Europe-wide
“general strike” has been called to protest the war. But whether it is measured in
minutes or a few hours, this is merely a symbolic action. All-out workers mobilization
is called for to defeat the capitalist rulers and their war.

The fact is that support for the war is extremely narrow. The populations of Britain,
Italy and Spain are heavily opposed to the war in which their own governments are
participating. Even in the United States, opinion polls show that a majority of the
population of New York City (and almost three-quarters of NYC blacks) opposes
the war, as do even larger percentages on the West Coast. Numerous local and
state labor councils and national unions have passed resolutions against the war and
the accompanying attack on civil liberties. Even the AFL-CIO approved a mealy
mouthed “antiwar” statement. But paper statements mean nothing to the Bush gang.
Militant labor action, such as shutting down the docks, would galvanize the
widespread discontent.

The U.S.’ erstwhile imperialist allies (now rivals) France and Germany and the
rulers of capitalist Russia cooed like peace doves in the United Nations, but they are
now busily mending fences with Washington, hoping to get in on the postwar plunder
of Iraq. They only wanted to delay the war so they could have a say in the war
councils, which Bush haughtily denied them. In fact, they together with the
bureaucrats of the Chinese deformed workers state all voted for UN Security
Council Resolution 1441 in the name of which the U.S. is waging this obscene war.

The European imperialists are no saviors of the Iraqi people, any more than they are
of the oppressed Palestinians under the boot of the Israeli Zionist occupiers in the
West Bank and Gaza. The “United Nations,” meanwhile, served as a cover for
imperialist slaughter in Korea (3 million Koreans dead), for the assassination of
Congolese independence leader Patrice Lumumba and for imposing imperialist
protectorates in the former Yugoslavia. We demand that all U.S., British, UN and
other imperialist military forces get the hell out of the Near East, now!

The war on Iraq is centrally aimed at locking in U.S. imperialist domination of a
New World Order. Washington wants its hand on the Near East oil tap so that it can
control its rivals from Tokyo to Berlin and Paris. As we have warned from the
outset, war on Iraq is intensifying interimperialist rivalries, pointing to a Third World
War between nuclear-armed powers. Next on Washington’s target list is North
Korea, followed by Cuba, Vietnam and above all China. As Trotskyists, we defend
the North Korean, Cuban, Vietnamese and Chinese deformed workers states
against imperialist threats and aggression, while fighting for workers political
revolution to oust the bureaucracies that conciliate the imperialists and internal
capitalist forces and thereby open the door to counterrevolution.

Saddam Hussein is a nationalist capitalist ruler little different from many tinpot
dictators who have routinely been supported by the imperialists in the past, such as
the Pinochet dictatorship in Chile and the Videla junta in Argentina each of which
killed tens of thousands of leftists with U.S. approval. Upon taking power in 1970
with the backing of Washington, Hussein unleashed terror against communists using
lists supplied by the CIA. The chemical weapons he is accused of having were
supplied to him by the U.S. government for use against the Iranians. The plants
which produced such weapons were built by German and British companies. The
many crimes of Hussein are the crimes of the imperialists who backed him. And it
will take revolution by the Iraqi workers, Sunni and Shi’ite alike, mobilized
independently of and against the imperialist aggressors to put an end to the likes of
Hussein and his former patrons.

In Palestine, the Israeli militarists have intensified the brutal occupation of the West
Bank and Gaza, killing thousands. The Sharon regime has been waiting for the war
on Iraq to begin the mass “transfer” (ethnic cleansing) of tens of thousands of
Palestinians, whom the Zionists want to drive out of their ancestral homes as they
did in the 1948 war. Revolutionary Trotskyists defend the oppressed Palestinian
population in their uprising against the Zionist jackboot, and fight for an
Arab-Hebrew workers republic in a socialist federation of the Near East. Such a
federation would also make possible a united socialist republic of Kurdistan.

From the Near East to the imperialist centers, the key to combating this imperialist
war of aggression is the building of revolutionary workers parties like the Bolsheviks
of V.I. Lenin and Leon Trotsky. During the carnage of World War I, the Bolsheviks
fought to turn the imperialist war into a civil war, fighting for the defeat of “their
own” imperialist rulers. This internationalist program enabled them to carry out the
first successful workers revolution in history, the October Revolution of 1***. It was
the destruction of the bureaucratically degenerated Soviet Union during 1989-92 that
set the stage for Bush Sr.’s 1990-91 Gulf War. Today, it is necessary to take up the
Bolshevik banner to reforge an authentically Trotskyist Fourth International that can
end imperialist war through international socialist revolution.

Radical youth who want to fight against imperialist war and get rid of the capitalist
system that spawns it should join in the struggle to mobilize the tremendous power of
the working class against the bloody war criminals whose drive for global domination
threatens all the peoples of the world.

Defend Iraq! Defeat U.S. Imperialism!
For workers strikes against the war!

– 20 March 2003

:rolleyes: As a member of the working class, I long for Lenin.Stalin. Mao or Pol Pot to come liberate me:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

If you weren't so delusional, I would have a good chuckle over this....
 
Ya know RED, drivel like this is why only six people showed up to the last Communist Party organizational meeting in LV.
 
Right. I'm not responding to the article. I want to talk a minute to tell you about an idea near and occasionally dear to my heart. That idea ladies in gentlemen is communism.

Why does communism not work? I know many people here are aware it doesn't, but why do you think that is? Because communism represses freedom of speech? No, because ultimately that is not part of communist doctrine, but rather an extension of paranoid government, and believe me, if you were surrounded by hostile capitalist governments, you be paranoid too.

Here some of the basics. The first is the idea of a revolutionary class. That's the problem with being a revolutionary, after a revolution you have no where to go. You imagine new enemies and start to grow paranoid, even fractured. Any successful "rebellion" requires the people who are supposed to benefit from it behind it. Just shaking things up does nothing in and of itself.

Secondly, there is the idea that Stalin introduced, which is that a communist country should be self sufficient. This is sillier than I am. Countries are at their best advantage when they focus on what they are good at, whether it's skilled labor, food production, or whatever, and then benefit from trade. Isolationsit tendicies and sanctions will just cause you to suffer in the long term as other countries reap the benefits of specialization.

Thirdly, the idea of Communism is that Capital, that is, the technology used to produce goods, should be owned by the people who operate that technology. Thus they get a hundred percent of the profit they helped to generate. However, where the logic breaks down is that by tuning all capital over to the government that it would become the people since the government represents the people. In Sillyman's theory, government exists for one purpose and that is to protect the interests of those in power. This has always been the case, and while some countries are more progressive than others, it all boils down to the same thing: Show me the guy with the land, money, food, and guns, and I'll show you the government.

Oddly enough, I believe a working communist model of worker owned capital could be achieved here in Amrica without the need for massive reform or government overthrow. All it would take is a more worker oriented business style. The only reason why such a system has yet to develop is it's alien nature in American culture.

Happy, happy. :)
 
What did the horses do to be so insulted?

Hey RED, how 'bout that stock market?

I got a lot richer last week. Everything I've brought since the bubble burst is appreciating. Like my CRC land. :D :D :D

Score Capitalist pig - 2, Trotskyite with hand out - 0....

I sure as hell have NO intention of revolting. On the other hand, you may be revolting...
 
And I keep gettin' richer, but I can't get my picture
On the Cover of the Rolling Stone.
Rolling Stone, gonna see my picture on the cover...
Stone.
Gonna buy five copies for my mother!
Stone
Gonna see my smiling face
ON THE COVER OF THE ROLLING STONE

I got a freaky old Trotsky name of REDWAVE baby
Who provides all my needs.
I got his 'ol grey-haired momma sittin' here on her knees
I got his 'ol grey-haired pappy, drivin' my limousine...

Now it's all designed to blow my mind,
But my mind won't really be blown
Until I can just get that picture of his sister and my doggy
Off of the Rolling Stone...
 
teddybear4play said:
Iraq Body Count lists the civilian casualties at a maximum of 199.

And we're long past the first 48 hours. In fact, IBC is counting from the first of the year. TB4p

Yeah . . . that's a pretty poor effort . . . in NY the body count was almost 3,000 in less than one day on 9/11 . . . bloody Arabs . . . just refuse to lie down and die . . . :)
 
Try this on....
ELEVEN LEADERS RESPONSIBLE FOR MASS KILLINGS (based on estimated civilian casualties)
1)__ Jean Kambanda_ (Rwanda, 1994)______________ 800,000
2)__ Richard Nixon (Vietnam 1969 - 1974)_________ 700,000
3)__ Suharto_ (East Timor 1976 - 1998)______________ 600,000
4)__ Yahya Khan (Pakistan, 1971)_____________________ 500,000
5)__ Savimbi (Angola, 1975 - 2002)____________________ 400,000
6)__ Idi Amin (Uganda, 1969 - 1996)__________________ 300,000
7)__ Lyndon Johnson (Vietnam, 1963 - 1968)_____ 300,000
8)__ Charles Taylor (Liberia, 1989 - 1996)__________ 220,000
9)__ Foday Sankoh (Sierra Leone, 1991 - 2000)_ 200,000
10)_ Michael Micombero (Burundi, 1972)___________ 150,000
11)_ Saddam Hussein (1987 - 1988)__________________ 100,000
COUNTRIES THE USA HAS ASSISTED TOWARDS DEMOCRACY
1945 - 46__ China
1950 - 53__ Korea
1950 - 53__ China
1954_________ Guatemala
1958_________ Indonesia
1959 - 60__ Cuba
1960_________ Guatemala
1964_________ Congo
1965_________ Peru
1964 - 73__ Laos
1961 - 73__ Vietnam
1969 - 70__ Cambodia
1967 - 69__ Guatemala
1983_________ Grenada
1986__________ Libya
1980s________ El Salvador
1980s________ Nicaragua
1989__________ Panama
1991- 99____ Iraq
1998__________ Sudan
2002_________ Afghanistan
 
Somme said:
Try this on....
ELEVEN LEADERS RESPONSIBLE FOR MASS KILLINGS (based on estimated civilian casualties)
1)__ Jean Kambanda_ (Rwanda, 1994)______________ 800,000
2)__ Richard Nixon (Vietnam 1969 - 1974)_________ 700,000
3)__ Suharto_ (East Timor 1976 - 1998)______________ 600,000
4)__ Yahya Khan (Pakistan, 1971)_____________________ 500,000
5)__ Savimbi (Angola, 1975 - 2002)____________________ 400,000
6)__ Idi Amin (Uganda, 1969 - 1996)__________________ 300,000
7)__ Lyndon Johnson (Vietnam, 1963 - 1968)_____ 300,000
8)__ Charles Taylor (Liberia, 1989 - 1996)__________ 220,000
9)__ Foday Sankoh (Sierra Leone, 1991 - 2000)_ 200,000
10)_ Michael Micombero (Burundi, 1972)___________ 150,000
11)_ Saddam Hussein (1987 - 1988)__________________ 100,000
COUNTRIES THE USA HAS ASSISTED TOWARDS DEMOCRACY
1945 - 46__ China
1950 - 53__ Korea
1950 - 53__ China
1954_________ Guatemala
1958_________ Indonesia
1959 - 60__ Cuba
1960_________ Guatemala
1964_________ Congo
1965_________ Peru
1964 - 73__ Laos
1961 - 73__ Vietnam
1969 - 70__ Cambodia
1967 - 69__ Guatemala
1983_________ Grenada
1986__________ Libya
1980s________ El Salvador
1980s________ Nicaragua
1989__________ Panama
1991- 99____ Iraq
1998__________ Sudan
2002_________ Afghanistan

Hi Somme . . . what about Tricky Dicky Nixon the million dollar Presidential purchase by IT&T and his bombing of neutral Laos and Cambodia . . . what was the death count there? Oh, only 700,000 . . . about 25 9/11s . . . and they were non-combatants . . .

Pinochet in Chile, appointed by the CIA to sell the country to financial supporters of the CIA had a high body count . . .

The Sandanista Campaign by the CIA against Nicaragua . . . of just the CIA in all its operations around the world . . . :)
 
Somme said:
Try this on....
ELEVEN LEADERS RESPONSIBLE FOR MASS KILLINGS (based on estimated civilian casualties)
1)__ Jean Kambanda_ (Rwanda, 1994)______________ 800,000
2)__ Richard Nixon (Vietnam 1969 - 1974)_________ 700,000
3)__ Suharto_ (East Timor 1976 - 1998)______________ 600,000
4)__ Yahya Khan (Pakistan, 1971)_____________________ 500,000
5)__ Savimbi (Angola, 1975 - 2002)____________________ 400,000
6)__ Idi Amin (Uganda, 1969 - 1996)__________________ 300,000
7)__ Lyndon Johnson (Vietnam, 1963 - 1968)_____ 300,000
8)__ Charles Taylor (Liberia, 1989 - 1996)__________ 220,000
9)__ Foday Sankoh (Sierra Leone, 1991 - 2000)_ 200,000
10)_ Michael Micombero (Burundi, 1972)___________ 150,000
11)_ Saddam Hussein (1987 - 1988)__________________ 100,000
COUNTRIES THE USA HAS ASSISTED TOWARDS DEMOCRACY
1945 - 46__ China
1950 - 53__ Korea
1950 - 53__ China
1954_________ Guatemala
1958_________ Indonesia
1959 - 60__ Cuba
1960_________ Guatemala
1964_________ Congo
1965_________ Peru
1964 - 73__ Laos
1961 - 73__ Vietnam
1969 - 70__ Cambodia
1967 - 69__ Guatemala
1983_________ Grenada
1986__________ Libya
1980s________ El Salvador
1980s________ Nicaragua
1989__________ Panama
1991- 99____ Iraq
1998__________ Sudan
2002_________ Afghanistan
What a crock.

How about GERMANY and JAPAN? Ever hear of those places?

TB4p
 
Don K Dyck said:
Hi Somme . . . what about Tricky Dicky Nixon the million dollar Presidential purchase by IT&T and his bombing of neutral Laos and Cambodia . . . what was the death count there? Oh, only 700,000 . . . about 25 9/11s . . . and they were non-combatants . . .

Pinochet in Chile, appointed by the CIA to sell the country to financial supporters of the CIA had a high body count . . .

The Sandanista Campaign by the CIA against Nicaragua . . . of just the CIA in all its operations around the world . . . :)


Hey, Don found someone to suck his tiny dick. Cool beans.
 
Problem Child said:
Hey, Don found someone to suck his tiny dick. Cool beans.
LOL .. RED p_p

Where is raw Humor anyway???


"You'll bow down and kiss my RED p_p"
 
Carpet bomb Baghdad. Kill anyone who's stupid enough to remain there. Level the fucking place. We tried to be nice, it's time to be firm for the safety of the coalition soldiers.
 
Problem Child said:
Hey, Don found someone to suck his tiny dick. Cool beans.

heheheh . . . you wish PC . . . but I must say . . . that is a fine self portrait that you have for your av . . . lol :D
 
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