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Man Who Wounded 4 In Stabbing Attack At UC Merced Identified As Freshman, Faisal Mohammad



He’s probably a Christian.

Via Merced Sun Star:

The UC Merced student who wounded four people in a stabbing spree at the campus has been identified as Faisal Mohammad, a freshman student from Santa Clara.

Merced Couty Sheriff Vern Warnke confirmed the identity of the 18-year-old student to the Sun-Star early Thursday.

Mohammad was shot and killed by UC Merced police just after 8 a.m. on Wednesday morning as he ran from the two-story classroom building where investigators said his violent spree began.

Warnke said investigators, including the FBI, were still trying to determine the motive for Mohammad’s attack, which wounded two students, a female student advisor and a construction worker who was on campus for a remodeling project. The four suffered non-life-threatening injuries.
 
Terrosist cops shot an unarmed man

WHERE IS HUSSEIN OBAMA BIN SOETORO and JOHN FAG KERRY?
 
Not even surprised. Yesterday when the story was finally updated with more details they wrote "officials have no plans to release the suspect's identity at this time" and I knew it had to be a rag.
 
Faisal Mohammad: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

http://heavy.com/news/2015/11/...

He told Your Central Valley that after being stabbed a coworker drove him to a nearby hospital. In an interview the station, Price added that he was working outside the building where the stabbing took place. After hearing screaming, Price went to see what had happened. “Upon opening the door to the classroom, the suspect attacked him with a knife,” during which point he was stabbed although he did manage to kick Muhammad. According to his Facebook page,Price just got engaged on October 14, around 2 weeks before the attack. Speaking to CBS Fresno, Price said that Mohammad “had a smile on his face, he was having fun – which is more what bothers me.”
 
trying to determine the motive for Mohammad’s attack

That's a stand alone punchline.
 
US gun debate: Schools take matters into own hands by using devices like the Bearacade

7.30 By North America correspondent Ben Knight

Updated about 3 hours ago




Media player: "Space" to play, "M" to mute, "left" and "right" to seek.























































































Video: US schools left to fend for themselves after school shootings (7.30)

US shooting
Photo: There were about 120,000 gun related killings in the United States between 2001 and 2010. (Supplied)

Related Story: Obama pleads for gun control after 10 killed in Oregon shooting

Related Story: Australia's gun laws 'childish', Fox News anchor says



Map: United States

Every day students at Mentor High School walk into class past a strange looking device hanging on the wall.

It's not large — about 30cm square, with reflecting red and white stripes — just as you might find on a fire extinguisher.

But this device is there not to protect students from fire — it is designed for a uniquely American danger: the school shooter.

"We have had a lot of school shootings in the United States," Mentor High School superintendent Matt Miller told 7.30.

"They are not slowing down and they are not stopping.

"So we have to take measures on our side to combat that."

In this town, the threat is very real.

Just 20 minutes down the road from Mentor is Chardon High school where, in 2012, three students were killed by a fellow student.

"It really shook us pretty hard," Mr Miller said.

"It's so close to home. We deal with safety procedures almost every single day."

The Bearacade
Photo: The Bearacade was designed to securely lock classroom doors to protect students from school shooters. (ABC: 7.30)

The anti-shooting device used in Mentor is called the Bearacade.

It is one of a number of similar devices on the market, but this one was invented in Cleveland by Bill Cushwa, who was on a neighbouring school board at the time of the Chardon shooting.

If an active shooter alert goes out, teachers use it to put their classroom into lockdown; sliding it under the door, then dropping a metal pin through it into a hole in the floor.

The door cannot be opened and the device cannot be destroyed by gunfire.

The idea is to buy time until help arrives.

The Bearacade has now been installed in 200 school districts, in 23 states.


Do you know more about this story? Email 7.30syd@your.abc.net.au

The gun lobby's greatest victory

This is what it has come to in the US — with gun reform gridlocked, school administrators like Mr Miller being forced to take their own measures to protect their students.

"How do you argue against spending less than two bucks per student on a device that could potentially save their lives?" he asked.



Obama wants you to see this chart

US president Barack Obama has asked media outlets to chart gun deaths versus terrorism deaths in the United States. Here's what that looks like.
It is easy to see why schools like Mentor are not sitting around waiting for the problem to be solved by someone else.

Once a week, on average, there is a shooting at an American educational campus.

It has been that way for two years, yet nothing changes.

It is not as though there is not a discussion going on about guns in US — there is — but, in what is perhaps the gun lobby's greatest victory of all, the national debate is now framed so that somehow it's not guns that are the problem, but mental health.

Here is a sample of responses by Republican presidential candidates after last month's college massacre in Oregon:


"We have a mental health challenge."

Jeb Bush - October 2

"In a number of these cases, these people have already been working with mental health professionals, but nothing was done about it."

Dr Ben Carson - October 7

"Guns, no guns, it doesn't matter. You have people who are mentally ill, and they are going to come through the cracks."

Donald Trump - October 4

On the face of it, it makes sense.

Who else but a madman would walk into a school, or cinema, with the intention of murdering as many innocents as possible?

But the issue of gun violence in the US is far bigger than the headline-grabbing mass shootings.

The mental health argument

Between 2001 and 2010, there were about 120,000 gun related killings in the US.

Yet, according to data from the US National Centre for Health Statistics, fewer than 5 per cent of those killings were perpetrated by people diagnosed with mental illness.

In fact, there is evidence to show that people with mental illness are not only less likely to commit an act of violence with a gun than the rest of the population — they are far more likely to be the victim.

Jonathan Metzl, Professor of Psychiatry at Vanderbilt University in Tennessee
Photo: Jonathan Metzl, Professor of Psychiatry at Vanderbilt University in Tennessee, says substance abuse is a far bigger factor in gun violence than mental illness. (ABC: 7.30)

"Even if we stripped guns from everybody with mental illness, I don't think it would make a dent in gun crime in America," said Jonathan Metzl, Professor of Psychiatry at Vanderbilt University in Tennessee.

He said substance abuse was a far bigger factor.

"If alcohol or drugs are present at the moment of a charged encounter, and a gun is present, there is about five to seven times more likely chance that that altercation will end with some kind of shooting," he said.

"Alcohol use, a history of violence, access to firearms, lack of firearm training — these are all factors that, if we addressed them, would severely curtail the number of shooting deaths that we have in United States."

The biggest factor of all being access to guns.And on that, the debate is gridlocked.

Even basic background checks — which a majority of Americans support — have no hope of being raised in Congress, let alone passing into law.

But if the debate is to be about dealing with mental health, and preventing the next mass shooting, it begs the question — what needs to be done?

"It's just too easy to say, 'let's fix mental health, and we won't have this problem any more'," Mary Ellen O'Toole told 7.30.

She's a former FBI profiler who has investigated multiple mass shootings, including the Columbine High School massacre in 1999.

"If you take all of these mission-oriented shooters over the last 10 years, each one of them had a different mental health issue," Ms O'Toole said.

"My fear is that at some point people are going to start saying, well, let's look at all the paranoid schizophrenic individuals. Let's look for all the depressed people.


"Let's look for all the people that have maybe had a diagnosis of Asperger's [syndrome].

"So which one are we going to lock up?"

Ms O'Toole said she believed the mental health system could play a role in preventing angry young men from becoming mass murderers.

"'It develops over years," she said. "There are warning behaviours.

"They blame the world for everything, they blame the world for their lot in life, they blame other people because things are hopeless, it's not going to get any better.

"But it has to go back when they are little boys. We do feel that intervention is possible. But not when they are 18, 19, or 20 — too late."

And it is already too late for the 20 people killed this year at American campuses, to say nothing of the wounded, and the traumatised.

The mental health argument is important.

But it is becoming a cop-out, a way of avoiding the impossible challenge of getting high powered, military grade, murder weapons out of American society.

So instead, it is left to teachers and administrators, like Mr Miller, to protect the nation's children.

"You are going to have a bad day," he said.

"You have to be prepared for it, and practise it.

"During the Cold War, even after World War II, it was 'Stop, drop and roll', and practising nuclear fallout.

"Obviously we are not there anymore, but we have unfortunately evolved to, in some ways, a more dangerous place."
 
No threads

Scant coverage in media

No wall to wall outrage on cable

Why

We know why
 
This is the sort of thing that gun nuts warn about if firearms are taken away. The fact that taking away firearms has not been suggested by anyone of import is never addressed.

Just the attempted scare tactics.

"Criminals will just use knives!"

Maybe, and look at the result.

No fatalities, not a single victim of the attack even in ICU. Four people were wounded before police ended the attacker's life.
Now imagine if this individual had firearm(s) instead of a knife. Take Oregon for example, 10 dead and 9 more injured, several of those in critical condition.
 
Ulaven_Demorte said:
This is the sort of thing that gun nuts warn about if firearms are taken away. The fact that taking away firearms has not been suggested by anyone of import is never addressed.

Just the attempted scare tactics.

"Criminals will just use knives!"

Maybe, and look at the result.

No fatalities, not a single victim of the attack even in ICU. Four people were wounded before police ended the attacker's life.
Now imagine if this individual had firearm(s) instead of a knife. Take Oregon for example, 10 dead and 9 more injured, several of those in critical condition.
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You are mentally ill
 
"[Merced County Sheriff Vern] Warnke stressed Wednesday’s stabbings were not terrorism, just a grudge by an angry teenager,"​
 
about_average said:
"[Merced County Sheriff Vern] Warnke stressed Wednesday’s stabbings were not terrorism, just a grudge by an angry teenager,"​
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the the MUSLIM shot the military recruiters they said teh same thing

THEY ALWAYS DO WHEN MUSLIMS ARE INVOLVED

You know that, why pretend otherwise?
 
MichaelinChina said:
US gun debate: Schools take matters into own hands by using devices like the Bearacade

7.30 By North America correspondent Ben Knight

Updated about 3 hours ago




Media player: "Space" to play, "M" to mute, "left" and "right" to seek.























































































Video: US schools left to fend for themselves after school shootings (7.30)

US shooting
Photo: There were about 120,000 gun related killings in the United States between 2001 and 2010. (Supplied)

Related Story: Obama pleads for gun control after 10 killed in Oregon shooting

Related Story: Australia's gun laws 'childish', Fox News anchor says



Map: United States

Every day students at Mentor High School walk into class past a strange looking device hanging on the wall.

It's not large — about 30cm square, with reflecting red and white stripes — just as you might find on a fire extinguisher.

But this device is there not to protect students from fire — it is designed for a uniquely American danger: the school shooter.

"We have had a lot of school shootings in the United States," Mentor High School superintendent Matt Miller told 7.30.

"They are not slowing down and they are not stopping.

"So we have to take measures on our side to combat that."

In this town, the threat is very real.

Just 20 minutes down the road from Mentor is Chardon High school where, in 2012, three students were killed by a fellow student.

"It really shook us pretty hard," Mr Miller said.

"It's so close to home. We deal with safety procedures almost every single day."

The Bearacade
Photo: The Bearacade was designed to securely lock classroom doors to protect students from school shooters. (ABC: 7.30)

The anti-shooting device used in Mentor is called the Bearacade.

It is one of a number of similar devices on the market, but this one was invented in Cleveland by Bill Cushwa, who was on a neighbouring school board at the time of the Chardon shooting.

If an active shooter alert goes out, teachers use it to put their classroom into lockdown; sliding it under the door, then dropping a metal pin through it into a hole in the floor.

The door cannot be opened and the device cannot be destroyed by gunfire.

The idea is to buy time until help arrives.

The Bearacade has now been installed in 200 school districts, in 23 states.


Do you know more about this story? Email 7.30syd@your.abc.net.au

The gun lobby's greatest victory

This is what it has come to in the US — with gun reform gridlocked, school administrators like Mr Miller being forced to take their own measures to protect their students.

"How do you argue against spending less than two bucks per student on a device that could potentially save their lives?" he asked.



Obama wants you to see this chart

US president Barack Obama has asked media outlets to chart gun deaths versus terrorism deaths in the United States. Here's what that looks like.
It is easy to see why schools like Mentor are not sitting around waiting for the problem to be solved by someone else.

Once a week, on average, there is a shooting at an American educational campus.

It has been that way for two years, yet nothing changes.

It is not as though there is not a discussion going on about guns in US — there is — but, in what is perhaps the gun lobby's greatest victory of all, the national debate is now framed so that somehow it's not guns that are the problem, but mental health.

Here is a sample of responses by Republican presidential candidates after last month's college massacre in Oregon:


"We have a mental health challenge."

Jeb Bush - October 2

"In a number of these cases, these people have already been working with mental health professionals, but nothing was done about it."

Dr Ben Carson - October 7

"Guns, no guns, it doesn't matter. You have people who are mentally ill, and they are going to come through the cracks."

Donald Trump - October 4

On the face of it, it makes sense.

Who else but a madman would walk into a school, or cinema, with the intention of murdering as many innocents as possible?

But the issue of gun violence in the US is far bigger than the headline-grabbing mass shootings.

The mental health argument

Between 2001 and 2010, there were about 120,000 gun related killings in the US.

Yet, according to data from the US National Centre for Health Statistics, fewer than 5 per cent of those killings were perpetrated by people diagnosed with mental illness.

In fact, there is evidence to show that people with mental illness are not only less likely to commit an act of violence with a gun than the rest of the population — they are far more likely to be the victim.

Jonathan Metzl, Professor of Psychiatry at Vanderbilt University in Tennessee
Photo: Jonathan Metzl, Professor of Psychiatry at Vanderbilt University in Tennessee, says substance abuse is a far bigger factor in gun violence than mental illness. (ABC: 7.30)

"Even if we stripped guns from everybody with mental illness, I don't think it would make a dent in gun crime in America," said Jonathan Metzl, Professor of Psychiatry at Vanderbilt University in Tennessee.

He said substance abuse was a far bigger factor.

"If alcohol or drugs are present at the moment of a charged encounter, and a gun is present, there is about five to seven times more likely chance that that altercation will end with some kind of shooting," he said.

"Alcohol use, a history of violence, access to firearms, lack of firearm training — these are all factors that, if we addressed them, would severely curtail the number of shooting deaths that we have in United States."

The biggest factor of all being access to guns.And on that, the debate is gridlocked.

Even basic background checks — which a majority of Americans support — have no hope of being raised in Congress, let alone passing into law.

But if the debate is to be about dealing with mental health, and preventing the next mass shooting, it begs the question — what needs to be done?

"It's just too easy to say, 'let's fix mental health, and we won't have this problem any more'," Mary Ellen O'Toole told 7.30.

She's a former FBI profiler who has investigated multiple mass shootings, including the Columbine High School massacre in 1999.

"If you take all of these mission-oriented shooters over the last 10 years, each one of them had a different mental health issue," Ms O'Toole said.

"My fear is that at some point people are going to start saying, well, let's look at all the paranoid schizophrenic individuals. Let's look for all the depressed people.


"Let's look for all the people that have maybe had a diagnosis of Asperger's [syndrome].

"So which one are we going to lock up?"

Ms O'Toole said she believed the mental health system could play a role in preventing angry young men from becoming mass murderers.

"'It develops over years," she said. "There are warning behaviours.

"They blame the world for everything, they blame the world for their lot in life, they blame other people because things are hopeless, it's not going to get any better.

"But it has to go back when they are little boys. We do feel that intervention is possible. But not when they are 18, 19, or 20 — too late."

And it is already too late for the 20 people killed this year at American campuses, to say nothing of the wounded, and the traumatised.

The mental health argument is important.

But it is becoming a cop-out, a way of avoiding the impossible challenge of getting high powered, military grade, murder weapons out of American society.

So instead, it is left to teachers and administrators, like Mr Miller, to protect the nation's children.

"You are going to have a bad day," he said.

"You have to be prepared for it, and practise it.

"During the Cold War, even after World War II, it was 'Stop, drop and roll', and practising nuclear fallout.

"Obviously we are not there anymore, but we have unfortunately evolved to, in some ways, a more dangerous place."
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Read what I didn't write again douchebag!
 
about_average said:
"[Merced County Sheriff Vern] Warnke stressed Wednesday’s stabbings were not terrorism, just a grudge by an angry teenager,"​
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here you go, below average

HE SAYS ITS A BOMB, BUT HE DOESNTKNOW ITS TERRORISM! CAUSE BOMBS AND PLANES ALWAYS GO TOGETHER

No, he, like YOU protect MUSLIMS


WHY?

Obama On Terrorism As Cause Of Russian Jet Downing: ‘I Don’t Think We Know Yet’

Russian jet terror bomb

Obama always has a reflexive problem calling anything terrorism.
 
DSpeeGal said:
of course THEY would say that
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And of course you know more about it than the sheriff who's actually, like, right there on the scene. :rolleyes:

here you go, below average

HE SAYS ITS A BOMB, BUT HE DOESNTKNOW ITS TERRORISM! CAUSE BOMBS AND PLANES ALWAYS GO TOGETHER

No, he, like YOU protect MUSLIMS


WHY?

Obama On Terrorism As Cause Of Russian Jet Downing: ‘I Don’t Think We Know Yet’

Russian jet terror bomb

Obama always has a reflexive problem calling anything terrorism.
Click to expand...
Wow, I'm impressed. Faisal Mohammad planted a bomb on a Russian airliner then go to the US in time to get kicked out of study group and plan to attack some kids and the teacher and get himself shot on Wed.
 
about_average said:
And of course you know more about it than the sheriff who's actually, like, right there on the scene. :rolleyes:

Wow, I'm impressed. Faisal Mohammad planted a bomb on a Russian airliner then go to the US in time to get kicked out of study group and plan to attack some kids and the teacher and get himself shot on Wed.
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LOL..in the OP's tiny brain this scenario is entirely possible.

I would love to see a compilation of the OPs conspiracy theories. Thread idea??
 
DSpeeGal said:
here you go, below average

HE SAYS ITS A BOMB, BUT HE DOESNTKNOW ITS TERRORISM! CAUSE BOMBS AND PLANES ALWAYS GO TOGETHER

No, he, like YOU protect MUSLIMS


WHY?

Obama On Terrorism As Cause Of Russian Jet Downing: ‘I Don’t Think We Know Yet’

Russian jet terror bomb

Obama always has a reflexive problem calling anything terrorism.
Click to expand...

The Traitor jumps through burning hoops to avoid blaming Islamonazis for anything.
 
about_average said:
And of course you know more about it than the sheriff who's actually, like, right there on the scene. :rolleyes:

Wow, I'm impressed. Faisal Mohammad planted a bomb on a Russian airliner then go to the US in time to get kicked out of study group and plan to attack some kids and the teacher and get himself shot on Wed.
Click to expand...

You are mentally ill
 
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