Man admits meeting teen online and keeping her as sex slave

[Richard49]

Man admits meeting teen online and keeping her as sex slave


May 16, 2006, 4:58 PM EDT

girl's age in 3rd graf; CORRECTS punctuation 5th graf; EDITS 6th graf to tighten.

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) _ A 71-year-old man admitted on Tuesday that he met a 15-year-old girl online and transported her across state lines to serve as his sex slave.

Anthony Praias, of Kingston, pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court in Albany to a one-count federal indictment charging him with taking a minor across state lines with the intent to engage in sex, said U.S. Attorney Glenn Suddaby.

In his plea, Praias admitted that in May 2005 he met the girl online using the Yahoo Web site. During conversations with her, he said they discussed engaging in a master-slave relationship.

Praias said he drove to Edmonton, Ky., on May 11, 2005, and brought the girl back to his apartment where they spent several days engaging in various sexual acts.

The girl's family reported her missing to local police, who tracked down Praias through the girl's computer and phone records, said Assistant U.S. Attorney Thomas Spina. The girl was climbing out the window when police arrived at Praias' apartment, he said.

Praias remains in federal custody awaiting a September 12 sentencing hearing. Praias faces a minimum of five years in prison, up to a 30 year maximum, and a fine of $250,000.

The girl is back with her family.


Copyright 2006 Newsday Inc.

 

[Xelebes]

Perv!

 

[Chicklet]

even in my most disgusting fantasies, a 56 yr age difference bothers me.

 

[O'Mac]

I suppose we'll eventually get the crowd in here saying that a girl at 15 years is sexually mature enough to choose her partner - but I say BULLSHIT.

I don't care what sort of justification people might like to put on it, but a 15-year old is far too young to even consider playing an active part in the realm of BDSM, let alone hooking up with a man she's hardly known after a few days/weeks of contact on the internet. Never mind what the 71 year-old was thinking, what the hell was SHE thinking?

I swear, I'm beginning to think we should consider sterilising certain individuals as to prevent further contamination of the genepool.

 

[FurryFury]

I suppose we'll eventually get the crowd in here saying that a girl at 15 years is sexually mature enough to choose her partner - but I say BULLSHIT.

I don't care what sort of justification people might like to put on it, but a 15-year old is far too young to even consider playing an active part in the realm of BDSM, let alone hooking up with a man she's hardly known after a few days/weeks of contact on the internet. Never mind what the 71 year-old was thinking, what the hell was SHE thinking?

I swear, I'm beginning to think we should consider sterilising certain individuals as to prevent further contamination of the genepool.

If only we could.

Yes, what was she thinking?

We have a pretty good idea what he was thinking, the ass wipe.

Fury

 

[chris9]

I think I mentioned it before, but I might have just thought about it. A lawyer who was teaching a class I have been taking told us about a case where a man (don't know his age but I'm thinking in his 40's or 50's) had made a slave contract with a 15 year old girl. Her mom knew about it and had actually had a sexual relation with him herself. My teacher was the lawyer of that girl in a case against him concerning him setting up such a contract with an 11yo.

 

[Blushing Bottom]

I'm all for chemical castration in certain cases or perhaps wood chipper therapy?

d

I swear, I'm beginning to think we should consider sterilising certain individuals as to prevent further contamination of the genepool.

 

[Ever_Curious]

I'm all for chemical castration in certain cases or perhaps wood chipper therapy?

d

Castration doesn`t work, It may make us (as a society) feel better, but in reality, it does not work. Most offenders offend not just for the gratification, but the power and control and this would still be present after castration!

 

[sphynx's dragon]

I'm all for chemical castration in certain cases or perhaps wood chipper therapy?

d

I like the wood chipper therapy idea!

 

[Vixandra]

I'm all for castration and hard labor.

Or putting them all in old Army surplus tents that they have to maintain, giving them only the weather channel and the disney channel to watch and feeding them meat from a can and bread plus whatever they grow themselves.
But then I'm cruel that way.

 

[Richard49]

So lets see if I have the tone right
a) my kink is OK but yours is not
2) an internet discussion
(that we have no details of)
lead to a meeting

and he is not only a bad person
but the only bad person?

 

[Vixandra]

Girl's got issues too, never said she didn't.

Jailbait should know its jailbait and behave as such.

 

[FurryFury]

Underage is one of the very few areas that it's not a, I'm okay, you're okay thing in my book.

He is the "adult." That means all the responsibilities tends to fall on him and rightly so. That's the whole point of the underage being illegal thing.

Is she at fault too? Sure. Who is at greater fault? The one who is legally an adult.

Fury

 

[greenmands]

I suppose we'll eventually get the crowd in here saying that a girl at 15 years is sexually mature enough to choose her partner - but I say BULLSHIT.

I think a girl 15 years old is fair game, IF the partner is no older than 16, ....maybe 17

 

[brioche]

So lets see if I have the tone right
a) my kink is OK but yours is not
2) an internet discussion
(that we have no details of)
lead to a meeting

and he is not only a bad person
but the only bad person?

In my book, kink involving people under the legal age of consent isn't SSC, when it involves others who are.

Especially a dynamic in which the one who is in power is so much older and has so much more actual, physical power over ther other.

What if she disagreed with something? Was she properly educated?

I don't think these things matter - see my first comment. All they do for me is affect HOW sick this arrangement was.

 

[caela]

So lets see if I have the tone right
a) my kink is OK but yours is not
2) an internet discussion
(that we have no details of)
lead to a meeting

and he is not only a bad person
but the only bad person?

I don't really think it's a matter of our kink being o.k. and the man's not being o.k. as much as it's a matter of his being molestation and abuse of a minor. Personally I have no problem with him wanting a younger woman so long as said woman is over the age of consent. Heck if he can find an 18 year old that wants a 71 year old guy more power to him.

The girl is culpable in the situation as well. She's old enough to know that it was illegal for him to engage in sex with her and that it risked him being tossed in jail for statutory rape at the very least.

 

[Kajira Callista]

So lets see if I have the tone right
a) my kink is OK but yours is not
2) an internet discussion
(that we have no details of)
lead to a meeting

and he is not only a bad person
but the only bad person?

what kink exactly does this subject fit under?

 

[FurryFury]

Castration doesn`t work, It may make us (as a society) feel better, but in reality, it does not work. Most offenders offend not just for the gratification, but the power and control and this would still be present after castration!

I've said this a lot and totally agree.

Fury

 

[Xelebes]

what kink exactly does this subject fit under?

hebophilia

 

[A Desert Rose]

what kink exactly does this subject fit under?

Who's copying you? And keep in mind when someone does, it's the sincerest form of flattery, doll.

As far as this topic is concerned, I'd ask the same question.

 

[catalina_francisco]

I always get very edgy when people start shouting about how people should be sterilised to protect the gene pool etc., as it has happened to many individuals in this world who were judged as unsuitable or undesireable simply because of skin or hair colour, hereditary diseases, and mental conditions to name a few....some there really was no reason except some jerk or jerks felt they could play God in this manner because they felt themselves so superior and beyond questioning. Who gets to decide these things...I certainly would not be comfortable with those declaring it to be highly desireable, and in relation to actions that are not necessarily heriditary anyway, to be the ones deciding who gets it and who doesn't.


That being said and to play a little of Devil's advocate, I can see Richard's point and thought it myself before reading his post. How many here admit to having such fantasies themselves long before reaching 15 yo? I've seen plenty telling us about them in various threads and not feeling they were wrong to have them, or to act on them for those who did. I for one know there was a time when I dreamt about having a sexual relationship with someone I knew who was many decades older than myself when I was that age, and it never left me...the desire was not based on sexual attraction but simply the dominance/submission factor and recognition that this person would have fulfilled my fantasies in every way possible because it was how he was wired his whole life to the day he died...of course, he was labeled a pervert and undesireable even though he never had a sexual relationship with anyone underage or outside his own age range, or with anyone who did not consent to it themselves. And where was her family, her parents, all the time she was communicating with him and planning her trip on the internet and phone?...obviously not making sure such a thing was not accessible to her...so they too are blameless in this?

Another thing to remember is that 15 is not under the age of consent everywhere in the world and as such must mean that some places recognise that individuals of that age can make such choices themselves, and perhaps she was one of them... it (the feelings and ability) isn't magically confined to and defined by the laws of the land you happen to live in except in terms of legality. Perhaps she just wanted to have a little fun...who here has never been in and acted on that response? Perhaps her own family life was a big bag of unhealthy and unhappy shit...maybe she saw this as an escape. Maybe she is just a stupid little girl playing grown up games to make herself feel important...but how does that translate into blaming and condemning the other person with such vigour? Obviously she found him attractive for one reason or another, even consenting to sex with him more than once...so she is innocent and a model of perfect victim and he is guilty and heniously evil for having the same, though symbiotic desire, not to mention fulfilling most men's fantasies?

I'm afraid I get far more upset by the religious sects within the US who raise children, especially girls, to be one of several wives to men of this age within the group before they are even sexually and physically mature, and often against their will...and of which the authorities are aware but stand by and do nothing even though it is breaking several laws. These same groups hold people against their will if they decide thay want to leave....and still the law covers their arses and allows it to continue. IMHO, these cases are where the money would be better spent trying to help those who are non-consenting to escape a life of hell against their will, not people who may or may not make bad decisions, but still have the right to consent.

Catalina

 

[MechaBlade]

15 is young, but not "Let's castrate him!" young. Really, the worst thing that he did is make the family think that she was missing.

 

[Netzach]

I don't believe in castration, but I do believe in locking people who can't play in society up for good. Whatever kinds of fantasies someone's head is filled with at 15 (and mine was certainly filled with fantasies that involved men significantly my senior) I was still jailbait. I was still no way *ready* to handle the reality of those fantasies, even if I thought I was. I'm sure someone is, somewhere, but that's not in this society as we've built it. I've taught girls who come from a culture where a girl is considered quite adult at 12 or 13 - they assimilate.

Most girls who have assimilated and married in their later teens are glad they did - maybe a 12 or 13 year old raised in that culture *does* have all the adult tools she needs to be married, but in the context of this culture that's a huge liability just for the contrast - it's not Laos.

It also doesn't explain what the FUCK a 71 year old in this culture could possibly be thinking, beyond his own predatory and fucked up urges. There's more going on there than just a normal hard on to think you can break that many laws and be fine. It's not good enough to find an adult who can consent actively to his desires, he has to find a young teen who hasn't formulated a clear view of herself?

 

[FurryFury]

I don't believe in castration, but I do believe in locking people who can't play in society up for good. Whatever kinds of fantasies someone's head is filled with at 15 (and mine was certainly filled with fantasies that involved men significantly my senior) I was still jailbait. I was still no way *ready* to handle the reality of those fantasies, even if I thought I was. I'm sure someone is, somewhere, but that's not in this society as we've built it. I've taught girls who come from a culture where a girl is considered quite adult at 12 or 13 - they assimilate.

Most girls who have assimilated and married in their later teens are glad they did - maybe a 12 or 13 year old raised in that culture *does* have all the adult tools she needs to be married, but in the context of this culture that's a huge liability just for the contrast - it's not Laos.

It also doesn't explain what the FUCK a 71 year old in this culture could possibly be thinking, beyond his own predatory and fucked up urges. There's more going on there than just a normal hard on to think you can break that many laws and be fine. It's not good enough to find an adult who can consent actively to his desires, he has to find a young teen who hasn't formulated a clear view of herself?

*stands and applauds*

Fury

 

[Pure]

question

N: what the FUCK a 71 year old in this culture could possibly be thinking

Will someone explain why 71 is relevant? does it make this a worse crime than, say, 41 or 51?

Would 81 be even worse?

I'd rather have a young relative captured by an old codger--since he probably wouldn't fuck her so often and is less likely to be a serial killer.

Also when he's chased by the cops, he wouldn't be able to run so fast.