Male Warrior Effect

Rumple Foreskin

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My reaction to this was, "So, what else is new?" I'm curious what other AH'ers think about the good professor's latest research revelation.

Enjoy

Rumple Foreskin :cool:

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Researchers identify "male warrior effect"


NORWICH (Reuters) - Men may have developed a psychology that makes them particularly able to engage in wars, a scientist said on Friday.

New research has shown that men bond together and cooperate well in the face of adversity to protect their interests more than women, which could explain why war is almost exclusively a male business, according to Professor Mark van Vugt of the University of Kent in southern England.

"Men respond more strongly to outward threats, we've labeled that the 'man warrior effect'," he told the British Association for the Advancement of Science meeting.

"Men are more likely to support a country going to war. Men are more likely sign up for the military and men are more likely to lead groups in more autocratic, militaristic ways than women," he added.

Van Vugt said the finding is consistent with results from different behavioral science disciplines.

In experiments with 300 university men and women students, Van Vugt and his team gave the volunteers small sums of money which they could either keep or invest in a common fund that would be doubled and equally divided. None of the students knew what the others were doing.

Both sexes cooperated in investing in the fund. But when the groups were told they were competing against other universities, the males were more eager to invest rather than keep their money while the number of women contributing remained the same.

"We all know males are more aggressive than females," Van Vugt said, adding that co-operation is needed to establish institutions and governments and to wage wars.

"Male co-operation is a double-edged sword," he added.
 
Sounds like another research study confirming the 'bleeding obvious'.

Og
 
oggbashan said:
Sounds like another research study confirming the 'bleeding obvious'.

Og

Yeah, that was my thought, as well. Another well-deserving research project, eh? ;) :D
 
A recent study by 'scientists' shows that cow flatulence...
 
oggbashan said:
Sounds like another research study confirming the 'bleeding obvious'.

Og
bless you, o wise sage.

and thank you for saving me the time to say the same damn thing. :kiss:
 
Ravlicious said:
Yeah, that was my thought, as well. Another well-deserving research project, eh? ;) :D
Ravlicious,
your av has a biphasic p wave...might wanna have that seen to. ;)
 
kendo1 said:
A recent study by 'scientists' shows that cow flatulence...

A couple of years ago there was a government funded study to show how Cows were instrumental in the destruction of the Ozone layer because of the amount of Methane in their Flatulence.

It took them over a year and several hundred K to get the average amount of Methane released by a cow in the course of a day, which was multiplied by the number of Cows in America. Our tax dollars at work.

Cat

Now if they had funded a study to see how much Methane and other toxic gases were given off by the politicians I might have been interested.
 
The first time I heard 'cow flatulence adds to global warming' I knew it was a crock.

There used to be a lot more buffalo around than cows, and they fart too. So global warming should have occurred long ago if flatulence had anything to do with with it.

;)
 
oggbashan said:
Sounds like another research study confirming the 'bleeding obvious'.

Og

Or maybe it's just continuing the long tradition of justifying stereotypes with research studies?

Similar "research" once proved conclusively that blacks were less intelligent and lazier than whites.
 
Weird Harold said:
Or maybe it's just continuing the long tradition of justifying stereotypes with research studies?

Similar "research" once proved conclusively that blacks were less intelligent and lazier than whites.

LOLOL You've read that one huh? Done with all the exacting scientific know how and backed with plenty of both observational data as well as Statistics.

You have to love the ideas behind these studies.

Bovine Flatulence indeed.

I can see the farmer watching the scientific types out in his field holding a meter up to some cows butt and shaking his head.

Cat
 
SeaCat said:
LOLOL You've read that one huh? Done with all the exacting scientific know how and backed with plenty of both observational data as well as Statistics.

One? There were thousans of such "scholarly" studies done from the late eighteenth century all the way through the late twentieth century -- the last I personally know of was done in 1980-something.
 
Jenny_Jackson said:
I wondered why they have "NO SMOKING" signs in Milk Barns :confused:

Because it makes the milk taste funny?

Cat
 
Jenny_Jackson said:
I wondered why they have "NO SMOKING" signs in Milk Barns :confused:

I hang one around my neck after I have chili. ;)

Speaking of 'scientific' studies on racial differences, the way they twist things is hilarious.

When evolution was discovered, many people confused it with 'advancement' and 'improvement'. So studies showed how whites had more 'advanced' and 'improved' features over blacks.

Then it was discovered that human beings retain many features of infants. Presto! new studies showed that whites have more juvenile features than blacks. :rolleyes:

Amazing, isn't it? How we always discover what we set out to find? ;)
 
rgraham666 said:
I hang one around my neck after I have chili. ;)

Speaking of 'scientific' studies on racial differences, the way they twist things is hilarious.

When evolution was discovered, many people confused it with 'advancement' and 'improvement'. So studies showed how whites had more 'advanced' and 'improved' features over blacks.

Then it was discovered that human beings retain many features of infants. Presto! new studies showed that whites have more juvenile features than blacks. :rolleyes:

Amazing, isn't it? How we always discover what we set out to find? ;)

What was even more fun was the moral outrage expressed when it was anounced that science had found that Mankind had evolved from a Black Woman.

If you really want to have fun, dig up and show the historical proof that Jesus was not white. That really drives the Supremecists nuts.

Cat
 
Le Article said:
Researchers identify "male warrior effect"


NORWICH (Reuters) - Men may have developed a psychology that makes them particularly able to engage in wars, a scientist said on Friday.

New research has shown that men bond together and cooperate well in the face of adversity to protect their interests more than women, which could explain why war is almost exclusively a male business, according to Professor Mark van Vugt of the University of Kent in southern England.
Interrstingly, if they had labeled this "Men are better team players", somebody would have yelled "SEXISM!!!" by now. :rolleyes:
 
SeaCat said:
What was even more fun was the moral outrage expressed when it was anounced that science had found that Mankind had evolved from a Black Woman.

If you really want to have fun, dig up and show the historical proof that Jesus was not white. That really drives the Supremecists nuts.

Cat

Actually, that should be pretty obvious. First, assuming that Jesus existed, had he been white, nobody would have followed him. They would have thought he looked too weird, and would have wanted nothing to do with him. He would have looked much the same as the people around him. Otherwise, he would have been easy to spot and Judas would not have gotten his thirty pieces of silver.
 
NORWICH (Reuters) - Men may have developed a psychology that makes them particularly able to engage in wars, a scientist said on Friday.

New research has shown that men bond together and cooperate well in the face of adversity to protect their interests more than women, which could explain why war is almost exclusively a male business, according to Professor Mark van Vugt of the University of Kent in southern England.

Liar said:
Interrstingly, if they had labeled this "Men are better team players", somebody would have yelled "SEXISM!!!" by now. :rolleyes:

This is probably true although, basically, this is what they are saying. Like others have said, this seems to be like proving that water runs downhill.
 
vella_ms said:
Ravlicious,
your av has a biphasic p wave...might wanna have that seen to. ;)

I would call it a sharply AR-enveloped linear wave-burst.
 
[I said:
Rumple Foreskin]My reaction to this was, "So, what else is new?" I'm curious what other AH'ers think about the good professor's latest research revelation.

Enjoy

Rumple Foreskin :cool:

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Researchers identify "male warrior effect"


NORWICH (Reuters) - Men may have developed a psychology that makes them particularly able to engage in wars, a scientist said on Friday.

New research has shown that men bond together and cooperate well in the face of adversity to protect their interests more than women, which could explain why war is almost exclusively a male business, according to Professor Mark van Vugt of the University of Kent in southern England.

"Men respond more strongly to outward threats, we've labeled that the 'man warrior effect'," he told the British Association for the Advancement of Science meeting.

"Men are more likely to support a country going to war. Men are more likely sign up for the military and men are more likely to lead groups in more autocratic, militaristic ways than women," he added.

Van Vugt said the finding is consistent with results from different behavioral science disciplines.

In experiments with 300 university men and women students, Van Vugt and his team gave the volunteers small sums of money which they could either keep or invest in a common fund that would be doubled and equally divided. None of the students knew what the others were doing.

Both sexes cooperated in investing in the fund. But when the groups were told they were competing against other universities, the males were more eager to invest rather than keep their money while the number of women contributing remained the same.

"We all know males are more aggressive than females," Van Vugt said, adding that co-operation is needed to establish institutions and governments and to wage wars.

"Male co-operation is a double-edged sword," he added.
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Rumples post has been piffled...and I know why....

It should come as no surprise to anyone, that the political division between left and right, liberal and conservative is basically gender based.

The Pussies, the liberals, the left, the social democrats, the appeasers, the negotiators, the ameliorators, are always populated by women and effeminate men and those who don't know any better.

The masculine, the male, the aggressive, the protector, the dominator, the instigator, the intervenor, the uni-lateralist, the rational and the independent, the conservative, has always been the 'right'.

And...it is not 'conditioning' it is not oppression of the weaker sex, it is not tradition nor custom or law or social more's that dictate behavior.

Nope, 'tis the nature of the beast...a division of labor from the earliest times in human history. Males are by nature taller, heavier and stronger with greater upper body strength and naturally accrue to a particular specialty.

Simple as that, men became warriors because they were best suited to defend the campfire and the weaker females and children.

Ya don't even gotta be a rocket scientist to figure that...


egads...


amicus...
 
From my favourite book.

BLOOD (2) The most probable explanation for the fundamental practicality of women versus the endemic romanticism of men is that women, from twelve years old to their mid-fifties, must handle their own blood as it pours from their bodies one week out of every four.

The signs of male mortality are much more abstract. Only war guarantees them a regular confrontation with blood, which may explain the romance of organized violence.

Men have always presented themselves as clear-headed and practical versus the female who is enveloped in a romantic mist. This is an early and persistent example of the dictatorship of vocabulary.

;)
 
Yes, we men prefer organized to disorganized violence. We do it when it is practical (as in when our lives and family and freedom are at stake) and when it is impractical (well, at least from the survival angle). Both sexes can be level-headed and romantic about it. It's not "romantic" to defend your home. It IS romantic to rush off to a war that isn't any of your business.
 
vella_ms said:
Ravlicious,
your av has a biphasic p wave...might wanna have that seen to. ;)

So I take it it's not a healthy picture? hehe. If anyone knows Type O Negative, I'm sure they were very conscious of it when choosing that for their album cover then. :D
 
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