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I'm not going to disagree that the filters have really fallen off what people say.
Still, it isn't a new argument is it?
I always loved Treat Her Like a Lady (Cornelius Brothers & Sister Rose) but the entire song is about how to get over on your girl so she'll give it up. You have to love these lines:
I have to laugh when I think of the things I was singing along with before I had any idea what I was singing. Oh, some of the explanations my mom gave me to avoid telling me what those songs really were about!
Maybe that's the thing that's different--we were sort of blissfully ignorant singing along to Like a Virgin and Super Freak and Little Red Corvette. I saw someone mention Afternoon Delight in another thread a couple of days ago along that same line. When I got to the part in 1999 about having a "lion in my pocket and baby he's ready to roar" I didn't miss a beat but I didn't think twice about it either. (Lord help me I didn't have to look that lyric up.)
These days I wonder if there are kids singing along who DON'T get it? Since I don't have kids it's one thing I don't have to worry about at least. Most of the youth at my mom's church seem to know perfectly well what those Miley and Robin and the rest are singing about. I don't think it's because the songs have changed so much though.
Still, it isn't a new argument is it?
I always loved Treat Her Like a Lady (Cornelius Brothers & Sister Rose) but the entire song is about how to get over on your girl so she'll give it up. You have to love these lines:
Strange as it seems
You know you can't treat a woman mean
You know you can't treat a woman mean
I have to laugh when I think of the things I was singing along with before I had any idea what I was singing. Oh, some of the explanations my mom gave me to avoid telling me what those songs really were about!
Maybe that's the thing that's different--we were sort of blissfully ignorant singing along to Like a Virgin and Super Freak and Little Red Corvette. I saw someone mention Afternoon Delight in another thread a couple of days ago along that same line. When I got to the part in 1999 about having a "lion in my pocket and baby he's ready to roar" I didn't miss a beat but I didn't think twice about it either. (Lord help me I didn't have to look that lyric up.)
These days I wonder if there are kids singing along who DON'T get it? Since I don't have kids it's one thing I don't have to worry about at least. Most of the youth at my mom's church seem to know perfectly well what those Miley and Robin and the rest are singing about. I don't think it's because the songs have changed so much though.
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Listen to this:
m.youtube.com/watch?v=bcqJDDhoUlc
He talks about it so brilliantly. I absolutely LOVE this bit. It's quite fitting, given the conversation.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=bcqJDDhoUlc
He talks about it so brilliantly. I absolutely LOVE this bit. It's quite fitting, given the conversation.
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When I was a kid, my parents let me watch whatever I wanted. My favourite movie at 4 years old was Lost Boys. I am with Rainshine and I agree with her on the fact that it really doesn't influence everyone like people like to pretend.
I don't like rap songs. But the one rap song I think is absolutely hysterical is "Smell Yo' Dick". That's undoubtedly the worst thing ever recorded in the history of anything (as long as we don't consider Hugh Hackman's performance in I'm Miserables). That song is awful. Filthy. Misogynistic. Whatever is the opposite of misogynistic, it's that. But it's not gonna make me do shit I wouldn't otherwise do.
I think it's funny about what Rainshine said about the parent freaking out about Blurred Lines. I find that kind of thinking to be hysterical. Does sheltering children and plugging their ears and covering their eyes prepare them to make good choices? Doubt it.
But I've rambled, which is never like me. I say, if you like the song, listen. Music is meant to be enjoyed. If you like it, listen!
I don't like rap songs. But the one rap song I think is absolutely hysterical is "Smell Yo' Dick". That's undoubtedly the worst thing ever recorded in the history of anything (as long as we don't consider Hugh Hackman's performance in I'm Miserables). That song is awful. Filthy. Misogynistic. Whatever is the opposite of misogynistic, it's that. But it's not gonna make me do shit I wouldn't otherwise do.
I think it's funny about what Rainshine said about the parent freaking out about Blurred Lines. I find that kind of thinking to be hysterical. Does sheltering children and plugging their ears and covering their eyes prepare them to make good choices? Doubt it.
But I've rambled, which is never like me. I say, if you like the song, listen. Music is meant to be enjoyed. If you like it, listen!
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You just reminded me of something from when I was in high school...
My dad is driving me somewhere, and we're listening to the radio and the song 'I touch myself' comes on the radio. There I am, singing along, and at a stop light my father looks at me and says "WHAT just came out of your mouth?"
It was the first time I'm really really listened to the lyrics. Oops.
Fast forward a generation, and I'm driving my kids someplace, and a remake of 'Smooth criminal' comes on. The oldest promptly starts monologing about how "this is what's wrong with the youth of America today..." (I blame his father for the attitude), ranting on about violence in the media.
Dude... that song came out the first time when I was in elementary school.
Oh. Seriously? Forget what I said, I guess.
They listen to what they listen to; we talk about song lyrics and society, just like we talk about movies, books, social trends, etc.
My dad is driving me somewhere, and we're listening to the radio and the song 'I touch myself' comes on the radio. There I am, singing along, and at a stop light my father looks at me and says "WHAT just came out of your mouth?"
It was the first time I'm really really listened to the lyrics. Oops.
Fast forward a generation, and I'm driving my kids someplace, and a remake of 'Smooth criminal' comes on. The oldest promptly starts monologing about how "this is what's wrong with the youth of America today..." (I blame his father for the attitude), ranting on about violence in the media.
Dude... that song came out the first time when I was in elementary school.
Oh. Seriously? Forget what I said, I guess.
They listen to what they listen to; we talk about song lyrics and society, just like we talk about movies, books, social trends, etc.
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The country was going to collapse and we were all going to burn in HELL because of the bulge in Elvis Presley's pants. Jerry Lee married his cousin and it was the harbinger or the end of days (if you don't believe me ask his other cousin Jimmy Swaggart.)
When I was in high school we all "wanted our MTV" and our brains were going to rot because of the video games. Meanwhile I loved Stephen King and the my 'safe' reading was folklore--anything vampire, werewolf, or witch. Gore splashed movies and my aunt letting me watch Showtime when my mom wasn't around.
I was maybe 13 when she let me watch some insane movie about hookers. Not a week later my mom is talking to one of her friends about something one of them has read and the next thing you know I'M explaining that what her friend read about is called a GOLDEN SHOWER.
Good times.
Like I said, I don't have any kids. I'm not around any on any sort of regular basis so I can't really say for sure but it looks to me like they just aren't having as much FUN as we did. When we ran across something dirty (or sorted out that some song we all liked had that alternate meaning) it was a sort of thrill. I remember school trips and listening to Eddie Murphy tapes in the back of the bus too but it was a secret.
Now that it's right out front, on the radio and TV and internet it just seems like they have lost the fun of discovering stuff so they get jaded so much younger.
Seeing somebody naked in a movie was a big deal to me until I was out of high school. Now seeing someone naked on TV isn't ever a big deal to anyone.
I don't know if it's damaged anyone but I think it's sad.
When I was in high school we all "wanted our MTV" and our brains were going to rot because of the video games. Meanwhile I loved Stephen King and the my 'safe' reading was folklore--anything vampire, werewolf, or witch. Gore splashed movies and my aunt letting me watch Showtime when my mom wasn't around.
I was maybe 13 when she let me watch some insane movie about hookers. Not a week later my mom is talking to one of her friends about something one of them has read and the next thing you know I'M explaining that what her friend read about is called a GOLDEN SHOWER.
Good times.
Like I said, I don't have any kids. I'm not around any on any sort of regular basis so I can't really say for sure but it looks to me like they just aren't having as much FUN as we did. When we ran across something dirty (or sorted out that some song we all liked had that alternate meaning) it was a sort of thrill. I remember school trips and listening to Eddie Murphy tapes in the back of the bus too but it was a secret.
Now that it's right out front, on the radio and TV and internet it just seems like they have lost the fun of discovering stuff so they get jaded so much younger.
Seeing somebody naked in a movie was a big deal to me until I was out of high school. Now seeing someone naked on TV isn't ever a big deal to anyone.
I don't know if it's damaged anyone but I think it's sad.
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that is freaking hilarious!!
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Smell Yo Dick... Look it up by Riskay. Oh shit it's brilliant.
"He ain't talkin' 'bout me"
God I love Chris Rock.
"He ain't talkin' 'bout me"
God I love Chris Rock.
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It's not like sexual objectification and steamy lyrics haven't been around for awhile. "Party records" date from at least 1930s, along with pop songs with deep-innuendo lyrics. "Ribald songs" (including obscene student verses from the 1300s) have existed for many centuries at least, but more likely millennia. Neandertals were probably chanting fuck-me songs.
In my childhood, we had to gather in distant corners of the schoolyard to sing dirty songs to each other. Now we go online, or just phone for entertainment. Technology is our friend.
In my childhood, we had to gather in distant corners of the schoolyard to sing dirty songs to each other. Now we go online, or just phone for entertainment. Technology is our friend.
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Oh sweet mercy I did it, I watched it Smell Yo Dick
He's right, this is even worse than "What the Fox Say"
Somebody got PAID for this? (OMG did they get paid for me playing it??)
This has seriously messed me up, I can never look at another Snicker's bar again (did THEY pay to be in that??)
Being someone that never connotates with children (I was the youngest in my family and really had no younger cousins either. None of my sibs have gotten married nor had children, and I have none myself), I have been blissfully ignorant until I saw a female child singing:
"Oh, ah, just a little bit" Gina G.
Gives me the screaming willies just remembering it.
"Oh, ah, just a little bit" Gina G.
Gives me the screaming willies just remembering it.
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They quit making good music after the 80's, didn't they?
To be honest, I really couldn't sing a lyric of anything, ever, I really don't care about the "message" of the song, I enjoy the beat and lilt of the lyrics in unison to the music. It is the whole that I find captivating, not any single part, with exception to this little ditty that I wish I had on CD that I could put the windows down and play at high volume EVERY single time I leave the house! I really find people in general, whether they're driving or pushing a shopping cart, who don't know where they're going, what they're doing, or how to get there, to be really fucking annoying!
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When we're on a car journey, we take turns to choose a song to listen to. Me, hubs, son (16) and daughter (13) - it's easier to retain your sanity when you know you're only three songs away from a decent tune. Anyhow...
The kids know that some of the songs they choose have the F word in (I wouldn't have a clue) but they spare my blushes and prevent any possibility of parental corruption by coughing VERY LOUDLY over the offending lyric.
So I suppose my point is that I feel that my kids see videos or listen to music with a set of values already in place, rather than taking ideas from them. Neither of them would ever swear in front of me because they know what words are considered offensive.
The kids know that some of the songs they choose have the F word in (I wouldn't have a clue) but they spare my blushes and prevent any possibility of parental corruption by coughing VERY LOUDLY over the offending lyric.
So I suppose my point is that I feel that my kids see videos or listen to music with a set of values already in place, rather than taking ideas from them. Neither of them would ever swear in front of me because they know what words are considered offensive.
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You could substitute this version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTYr3JuueF4&feature=kp
I'm dying to know what the answer was.
Ah, I miss Chrissy Amphlett. She died too young :-/
My dive instructor used to sing that song while his teenage children looked horribly embarrassed. He knew what it was about, he just didn't care.
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Brilliant!
It's amazing how much I got into songs ("oh, ah, just a little bit" was one of them) then felt a total reversal about enjoying the songs after seeing a kid singing them.
I never felt that bad about "pour some sugar on me" and don't want to even imagine a kid singing to it. The cold splash of reality is jarring.
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The best/most absurd part about Smell Yo Dick? The girl singing is 17 years old.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=lgWgEoaAYDY
Here she is on Tosh.0. This is awesome, especially with the kids singing. Go parents.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=cE5YOVCahcQ
This is worth a watch. And parents, sit down with your daughters and explain why you may need to smell the dick of your boyfriend. Otherwise, they'll be out there smelling the dicks of every random guy they know and they will not know how to practice safe sniffing.
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I was at an Ed Sheeran concert last year (he was the opening act for someone, I can't remember who). But, that is not important. There were a lot of younger girls in the audience. I remember listening to some girls behind me, no older than 5 or 6, sing every lyric to The A Team, which is about a meth addicted prostitute. It's an amazing song, but I was just stunned. Obviously they have no idea what it means.
Sorry, I realize this isn't exactly on subject. But my point is, lyrics can be powerful, but often times they are just overlooked and overshadowed by a catchy beat or cool melody.
Sorry, I realize this isn't exactly on subject. But my point is, lyrics can be powerful, but often times they are just overlooked and overshadowed by a catchy beat or cool melody.
