looking for vampire help

[noye]

So in one of my parts the protagonist runs into a male vampire and after awhile he finds out male vampires are impotent/perpetually flacid because without a pulse they can't exactly get junior up and running. This doesn't mean they can't have sex, with special enchantments they can but there's not a lot of people willing to cast vampire viagra so its few and far between.

This got me thinking that the main character may want to know about female vampires, I mean there are downfalls for them as well because with decreased bloodflow to the clitoris it would mean reduced lubrication but since sexual arousal starts the leaking of plasma would a female vampire have to rely on lube? Isn't plasma dependent on blood flow?

Anyone have some ideas >.<

 

[3113]

would a female vampire have to rely on lube? Isn't plasma dependent on blood flow?

Blood is pretty good lube. All she'd have to do is open someone's vein (either her lover's, a non-vampire minion's, or an innocent bystander's) with her fangs and—after a fortifying gulp—use that person's blood to make things nice a slippery down below

 

[StrangeLife]

Casting...

VAMPIRE LUBE!!!!!

http://dreamworlds.ru/uploads/posts/2009-09/1252589896_abdula.jpg



In most vampire fiction - Anita Blake and Southern Vampire for instance - male vamps are able to have sex after feeding, because the blood makes their peni erectable. I assume something similar is the case for girl-pires.

 

[sr71plt]

Ideas? Vampires are myths. You aren't forced into scientific reality with them. Write with an emphasis on the erotic and leave the science (and the "rules" about vampires) to the anal retentive (just my opinion, of course). The few vampires I've written about are super sexual.

 

[StrangeLife]

Ideas? Vampires are myths...

You obviously haven't met my first wife's divorce lawyer...

 

[noye]

Blood is pretty good lube. All she'd have to do is open someone's vein (either her lover's, a non-vampire minion's, or an innocent bystander's) with her fangs and—after a fortifying gulp—use that person's blood to make things nice a slippery down below

Vampire women are creepy as hell if that was the solution o.o could be interesting though!

Casting...

VAMPIRE LUBE!!!!!

http://dreamworlds.ru/uploads/posts/2009-09/1252589896_abdula.jpg



In most vampire fiction - Anita Blake and Southern Vampire for instance - male vamps are able to have sex after feeding, because the blood makes their peni erectable. I assume something similar is the case for girl-pires.

LOL!

Very possible, though I don't want it too simple for them. Vampires are so overdone that I don't want their curse to be light. Though vampires are immensely attracted to the protagonist I really am trying to limit their focus but still make them interesting in the world they belong.

Ideas? Vampires are myths. You aren't forced into scientific reality with them. Write with an emphasis on the erotic and leave the science (and the "rules" about vampires) to the anal retentive (just my opinion, of course). The few vampires I've written about are super sexual.

Yes they are myths, but they're so overdone with minor changes. The vampires in my story are mostly non-sexual but since they are drawn to the MC there are things that would be nice to fill in the audience to engage them more. I'm not usually this anal retentive I just don't want to hype the over-hyped haha

 

[Handley_Page]

You obviously haven't met my first wife's divorce lawyer...

or my Ex's.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

noye, sr is right. Vampires, male or female, are myths. They are not human so you are free to invenent your scenario.

Try this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_Vampire

 

[Handley_Page]

noye, sr is right. Vampires, male or female, are myths. They are not human so you are free to invent your scenario.

Try this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_Vampire

but which version ?

 

[loquere]

Ideas? Vampires are myths. You aren't forced into scientific reality with them. Write with an emphasis on the erotic and leave the science (and the "rules" about vampires) to the anal retentive (just my opinion, of course). The few vampires I've written about are super sexual.

I agree I wrote a Vamp story once & except for a little aesthetic research I didn't go into the science all that.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

It all done with smoke and mirrors...er...smoke anyway.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

My vampire research revealed a world of variety when it comes to vampires, some work the day shift, some drain you of energy, some influence you to commit heinous acts, some help you get revenge on family, friends, and partners. Pretty nearly whatever you can imagine.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

but which version ?

The OP is looking at female vampires. They are not bound by contraception, periods, lubrication - just daggers through the heart.

I thought the Wiki piece gave some advice.

 

[desertslave]

You might want to read a novel or two by Chelsea Quinn Yarbro. I think one of the best would be Blood Games, which explains both male and female "situations" very well, in her vampire-verse. She's an excellent author, IMO, and in addition to her vampire characterizations she researches and writes actual history well. And, unlike LKH, she stays with her plot without drowning the reader in gratuitous sex scenes. (I used to like LKH, but she lost me at about book 12).

There's some excellent info on her take on vampires here:
http://www.chelseaquinnyarbro.net/saint-germain.html

 

[49greg]

Seems like I remember, as a teen in the sixties, watching old Hammer Horror films, they were quite sexy in their own way, but no real sex happened on screen of course.

However the scenes where a vampire was actually sucking blood were full of moans and gasps of a sexual nature. My teen-aged and hormone charged mind assumed that both vampire and victim got sexual satisfaction from the act of blood sucking.

 

[StrangeLife]

noye, sr is right. Vampires, male or female, are myths...

I wish it was so, but trust me - they are very real. You can find them here...

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/130128063325-irs-sign-building-jc-620xa.jpg

 

[sr71plt]

I don't think you can find the sexy ones there.

I'm in tune with the moans and groans of the act of sucking as traditionally depicted as being erotic. And to me, erotica can extend that to showing they are having superhuman sex during the domination and merging of juices that the sucking of blood symbolizes. Vampires are in the land of myth and are open to interpretation and literary license. Those readers who demand some sort of anatomically "correct" rendering either on science or the "history" of vampires can just go suck an egg and miss out on the arousal and fun. Erotica is about emotions and arousal, not science or some dress-up club's rules.

 

[noye]

Hmm so the consensus seems to be do whatever. I guess then the poor vampire gals are going to be as dry down there as a desert in a drought and I'll make up some mumbo jumbo. They are not sexual creatures in the story and besides the male vampire my protagonist runs into they are rare in the story. He interacts with normal people and casters a lot more but that's all really standard stuff.

 

[PennLady]

Hmm so the consensus seems to be do whatever. I guess then the poor vampire gals are going to be as dry down there as a desert in a drought and I'll make up some mumbo jumbo. They are not sexual creatures in the story and besides the male vampire my protagonist runs into they are rare in the story. He interacts with normal people and casters a lot more but that's all really standard stuff.

If the vampires are not sexual creatures, why do you need to spend a lot of time on adjusting their sexual responses, or lack thereof?

You could also make something up like: when they feed, the blood pumps and some normal physical processes resume. Hence the male vampires can get erections, and the females can get wet when excited. There you go.

Also, how/why are your vampires vampires? Virus? Curse? Work with that.

You should try googling "vampire science." Seriously. I was goofing off with my beta reader, and I googled "zombie science" -- because I watch "Walking Dead," he was asking me, half-joking, how/why zombies move, eat, do they digest, excrete, etc. So I googled "zombie science" and got answers to those questions just in the first page, with the Zombie Research Society page and other stuff. I can't help but think there must be an equivalent for vampires (or werewolves or whatever).

 

[noye]

If the vampires are not sexual creatures, why do you need to spend a lot of time on adjusting their sexual responses, or lack thereof?

You could also make something up like: when they feed, the blood pumps and some normal physical processes resume. Hence the male vampires can get erections, and the females can get wet when excited. There you go.

Also, how/why are your vampires vampires? Virus? Curse? Work with that.

You should try googling "vampire science." Seriously. I was goofing off with my beta reader, and I googled "zombie science" -- because I watch "Walking Dead," he was asking me, half-joking, how/why zombies move, eat, do they digest, excrete, etc. So I googled "zombie science" and got answers to those questions just in the first page, with the Zombie Research Society page and other stuff. I can't help but think there must be an equivalent for vampires (or werewolves or whatever).

Holy vampires were you right. Vampire science is a heavily debated thing apparently o.0.

To answer the first item, because the character (Stanley) is thrown into the world of magic and his first contact is with a vampire. He asks a lot of questions and at one point they begin discussing vampire myths such as vampires being these hot sexual fantasies magnets. Stan wonders to himself what sleeping with a vampiress would be like and I may visit it later in the series because vampires are heavily addicted to his presence.

Since it's a self inflicted curse to extend their life I did a few things to make it a curse such as a very limited access to magic, lack of pulse, and hunger for magic and life. I figured adding the unintended consequence of impotency and difficulty of sexual arousal would just be more of a reason to not want to be a vampire. A few other darker story elements tie in later to their curse.

 

[Handley_Page]

Seems like I remember, as a teen in the sixties, watching old Hammer Horror films, they were quite sexy in their own way, but no real sex happened on screen of course.

However the scenes where a vampire was actually sucking blood were full of moans and gasps of a sexual nature. My teen-aged and hormone charged mind assumed that both vampire and victim got sexual satisfaction from the act of blood sucking.

You too, huh ?

 

[elfin_odalisque]

but which version ?

Handley, Any version, as the Wiki piece shows. It is fantasy, anybody's fantasy, so the writer sits on Mount Olympus with virtually no constraints.

You can even have gay vampires - I don't mean sr.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

I wish it was so, but trust me - they are very real. You can find them here...

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/130128063325-irs-sign-building-jc-620xa.jpg

Touché!

 

[sr71plt]

You can even have gay vampires - I don't mean sr.

I certainly can have gay vampires, and do, with more gay vampire stories posted to Lit. than stories you've posted to Lit. in total, and they are doing quite well, thank you very much.

 

[wws_wws]

Made me think of Ann Rice

Her take on vampire sexuality was both erotic and seemed half-way plausible.