Looking for Females for Rape/incest roles
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SmiesOfNoOne
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Same here, PM me
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Just out of curiosity, and note that I am not interested in joining this thread, what is the appeal of rape? I really don't get it, and it's something that I have an issue with. I mean you're free to RP whatever you want and I'd defend your right to do so, but just for discussion I was wondering why people get off at others being raped? =(
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The same reasons real rape might be attractive to some. The feeling of overwhelming power that comes with invading a person's personal space and body violently.
That doesn't stop it from being unacceptable and disgusting, of course. But there are semi-rape threads (S&M) that are successful too. And quite a few.
That doesn't stop it from being unacceptable and disgusting, of course. But there are semi-rape threads (S&M) that are successful too. And quite a few.
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I understand and am sympathetic to why this is a sensitive subject, and it should be. I think roleplaying rape is about a few things. It can be about power and control or the lack thereof. It can be about humiliation. It can be about rough sex. It may not be all or exclusively those things to everyone who is interested in experimenting with rape r/p, but I think those factors are a good starting point in trying to understand why someone would be attracted to it.
As for S&M being semi-rape, I think that's quite a leap. If I get sexual fulfillment out of being hurt or hurting (provided the person I'm hurting likes it and wants me to do it) how can that be related to rape in any fashion?
As for S&M being semi-rape, I think that's quite a leap. If I get sexual fulfillment out of being hurt or hurting (provided the person I'm hurting likes it and wants me to do it) how can that be related to rape in any fashion?
Ok, it would be arrogant in the extreme to say that all Doms are sublimating a desire to rape, or that all subs are sublimating a fantasy of being raped, but I think it's clear that the power exchange aspect of S&M play often contains elements of both or either.MelancholyBaby said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't creating an environment where people can safely explore certain aspects of their sexuality or their psyche, including the darker ones, pretty much the point?
TearsoftheWorld said:
I'm glad that the idea of rape holds no appeal to you, TearsoftheWorld, but, as educated as you are, surely you have read enough sexuality literature to realize that many people admit to fantasies that have an element of force. And like any fantasy, it's possible to enjoy exploring it - and there may even be real psychological value in such exploration - as long as it REMAINS a fantasy.
And just so we're clear, let me state unequivocally that I hope my viewpoint is obvious to those who know me at all well: Fantasies and consensual games are one thing, actual rape is a heinous crime.
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MelancholyBaby said:
Hurting another person in a sexual act is part of rape. But because S&M is, if you will, "consensual rape" (yes, I know that sounds strange), then that's why I call it semi-rape. Because it is not complete rape, yet it explores a few features of it (pain, domination or submission, bondage, etc...).
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Hi Jeff. Sorry for further contribute to the usurping of your thread, but I just wanted to add my rant about "Why Rape Fantasies Are Not Evil".
Hi KR. I think this is a very important question. I understand why you find it disturbing that others are turned on by rape fantasies. I believe that most people who are into rape fantasies are not interested in actually being raped or in raping someone. I have been turned on by violent control fantasies ever since I was a young teenager, but I am horrified when I hear about people being actually sexually abused or assaulted. I get no pleasure at all when I hear news stories about rape; I have had friends who have been sexually abused and I realise the terrible pain that they have been through.
I used to feel extremely guilty for having the fantasies that I did, but I couldn't stop myself from having them. When I was fourteen or fifteen, I had rape fantasies when I was masturbating, and immediately after orgasm I would feel sick to my stomach and full of shame at what I had imagined. Eventually, I came to accept that I was not the only person to have these feelings and that it didn't mean that I was mentally ill.
I have read quite a few articles on sexual fantasies, and there are several theories as to why people get turned on by the idea of rape. Here are some of the many reasons that I believe these sorts of thoughts appeal to people:
1) Fetishization of the victim
I get turned on by the idea that the victim's body in the scenario is a fetishized object. In my fantasies, the perpetrator (usually a man) is so powerfully captivated and aroused by the body of his prey (usually a woman) that he finds himself conflicted. His only way of regaining some sense of control over himself is to obliterate the identity of his intended victim through the act of forced sex. I am especially turned on by the idea of conflict. Often in my fantasies, the rapist feels a turmoil of guilt and desire. He feels incapable of controlling himself, he wants it so badly he thinks he just "can't help himself".
2) Desire to control/desire to be controlled
The desire for control is understandable to most people, so I won't go into that. The desire for relinquishing control is less widely understood. I have read theories stating that many women feel guilty for having sexual feelings because "nice girls don't do that sort of thing". Apparently, for some women (although I don't really think this applies to me), when they are forced into a sexual situation, the feeling of guilt is removed because they are not responsible for it. I think these are actually the most common rape fantasies: the ones in which, in the end, the woman victim ends up loving it.
3) Tension and conflict
Personally, I am not interested in reading erotica in which everyone is happy, and everyone lives happily ever after. I know that most people like that sort of thing, but I just find it boring. I find that tension increases desire. I don't know why I am like this. Perhaps because when I first started being sexually active when I was a teenager, I had to masturbate on the sly, always afraid that someone was about to walk in on me. I felt constant fear of getting caught and constant guilt because I thought what I was doing was bad and wrong. Of course, I no longer feel guilt over masturbating, but somehow guilt and fear are still inextricably linked in my mind to arousal.
I hope some of that made sense. If there is anyone on here that wants to refute what I've said, I'd love to hear your take on this. It's something I have for many years found really fascinating.
Katamari Roller said:
Hi KR. I think this is a very important question. I understand why you find it disturbing that others are turned on by rape fantasies. I believe that most people who are into rape fantasies are not interested in actually being raped or in raping someone. I have been turned on by violent control fantasies ever since I was a young teenager, but I am horrified when I hear about people being actually sexually abused or assaulted. I get no pleasure at all when I hear news stories about rape; I have had friends who have been sexually abused and I realise the terrible pain that they have been through.
I used to feel extremely guilty for having the fantasies that I did, but I couldn't stop myself from having them. When I was fourteen or fifteen, I had rape fantasies when I was masturbating, and immediately after orgasm I would feel sick to my stomach and full of shame at what I had imagined. Eventually, I came to accept that I was not the only person to have these feelings and that it didn't mean that I was mentally ill.
I have read quite a few articles on sexual fantasies, and there are several theories as to why people get turned on by the idea of rape. Here are some of the many reasons that I believe these sorts of thoughts appeal to people:
1) Fetishization of the victim
I get turned on by the idea that the victim's body in the scenario is a fetishized object. In my fantasies, the perpetrator (usually a man) is so powerfully captivated and aroused by the body of his prey (usually a woman) that he finds himself conflicted. His only way of regaining some sense of control over himself is to obliterate the identity of his intended victim through the act of forced sex. I am especially turned on by the idea of conflict. Often in my fantasies, the rapist feels a turmoil of guilt and desire. He feels incapable of controlling himself, he wants it so badly he thinks he just "can't help himself".
2) Desire to control/desire to be controlled
The desire for control is understandable to most people, so I won't go into that. The desire for relinquishing control is less widely understood. I have read theories stating that many women feel guilty for having sexual feelings because "nice girls don't do that sort of thing". Apparently, for some women (although I don't really think this applies to me), when they are forced into a sexual situation, the feeling of guilt is removed because they are not responsible for it. I think these are actually the most common rape fantasies: the ones in which, in the end, the woman victim ends up loving it.
3) Tension and conflict
Personally, I am not interested in reading erotica in which everyone is happy, and everyone lives happily ever after. I know that most people like that sort of thing, but I just find it boring. I find that tension increases desire. I don't know why I am like this. Perhaps because when I first started being sexually active when I was a teenager, I had to masturbate on the sly, always afraid that someone was about to walk in on me. I felt constant fear of getting caught and constant guilt because I thought what I was doing was bad and wrong. Of course, I no longer feel guilt over masturbating, but somehow guilt and fear are still inextricably linked in my mind to arousal.
I hope some of that made sense. If there is anyone on here that wants to refute what I've said, I'd love to hear your take on this. It's something I have for many years found really fascinating.
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Darla, I didn't mean to say I thought people were crazy for liking rape fantasies. In fact, I have had them too, and "done the deal" imagining them. I like them because of the same reasons you do, although I am a bit more physical about it. The violence and sensations play as much a role as the feelings in them.
But that still doesn't mean I don't find rape disgusting. The act is disgusting, the fantasizying on the other hand is not as bad. And I did feel guilty after the deal, knowing this was a real problem somewhere else in the world, and maybe not even that far.
But still, the fantasy is quite appealing. And I read somewhere that it is one of the most recurrent fantasies, actually...
But that still doesn't mean I don't find rape disgusting. The act is disgusting, the fantasizying on the other hand is not as bad. And I did feel guilty after the deal, knowing this was a real problem somewhere else in the world, and maybe not even that far.
But still, the fantasy is quite appealing. And I read somewhere that it is one of the most recurrent fantasies, actually...
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Katamari Roller said:
Well, then, carry on my dear! Carry on.
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Rape fantasies turn me on. I'm not going to go into the reasons why here, because 1, it's personal and 2, SRP isn't the forum for such a discussion. But incest doesn't do anything for me, sorry. Just goes to show we all have our kinks. PM me if you'd like me to provide a character for such a thread.
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If we're being sensitive, why are people querying the rape aspect and not the incest?!?
Personally I can understand control and forced fantasy but not incest based ones.
I know I've added to this discussion, but seems strange that this particular thread has been jumped on when there are so many more forced and incest threads already on Lit ... along with other disturbing themes.
On here we have freedom of speech and fantasy.
If we take issue with one thread / topic then surely we have to take issue with all??
Apologies for adding to this debate jeff and good luck with your call for a co-writer.
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Personally I can understand control and forced fantasy but not incest based ones.
I know I've added to this discussion, but seems strange that this particular thread has been jumped on when there are so many more forced and incest threads already on Lit ... along with other disturbing themes.
On here we have freedom of speech and fantasy.
If we take issue with one thread / topic then surely we have to take issue with all??
Apologies for adding to this debate jeff and good luck with your call for a co-writer.
DM
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Actually, I don't see what is so bad about incest. I just see it as a different sort of affection. One that is not normal, but hey, as long as you don't have children who will suffer from the... thing that happens when two siblings have children together...
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I think everyone scared the good man Jeff off, lol
Sorry, butting out again,
but long as I'm here, rape does nothing for me... incest might, but usually depends on my mood.
Lol
I'd never commit incest, but I won't say I haven't had those thoughts
ok, I'm really butting out now
Sorry, butting out again,
but long as I'm here, rape does nothing for me... incest might, but usually depends on my mood.
Lol
I'd never commit incest, but I won't say I haven't had those thoughts
ok, I'm really butting out now
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MelancholyBaby said:
So in an S&M scenario there is NO aspect of a loss of control for someone in the scenario? There is no apsect of being helpless and humiliated? These are the points along with the physical "abuse" that I would say make S&M a semi rape. But it is only a SEMI rape. It has those common points with real rape and is IMHO a much better Psychological aid than an outright rape fantasy.
Knew a girl in therapy that tried the rape fantasy as a psychological aid to get over the actual rape she'd gone through. She ended up going out dressed for fucking actually looking to get raped. Bad stuff.
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To each his own...I would have been interested in the nonconsensual scenario and I do not understand the need for censure by some. This is about exploring fantasies, not acting them out in real life on unwilling victims.
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emily123 said:
Now if only we had a man brave enough to play....sigh...
