Look, we all know that if Michael Brown had been white . . .

[Kitty]

I'm not going to wade in on this madness, you're all welcome to fight it out on your own, but I have to say just one thing.


This:

is an absolutely stunning example of stupidity.

(per word, that's one of the dumbest things I've ever read, YouTube comments included)

You have officially waded.

 

[rippitydoo]

. . . and were the exact same size, and had done the exact same things, he probably would be alive today; and if he were not alive, Darren Wilson certainly would be facing an indictment today.

The GB is now the BB... The Bs Board!!!

 

[BotanyBoy]

Good gawd.

Is there no lie too bold for Throb?

Now I washed out of boot camp? They beauty of anonymity for the Internet Troll...

Rob just makes shit up.....the guy thinks I'm a god damn Fox watching republican, LOL Tell ol' rob how RW I am....LMFAO god I crack me up.

Please explore your homoerotic fantasies with Rob, it isn't my bag. he's another one who likes to ascribe his proclivities to others.

LOL says the king of man cyber on the GB...how's Ken doing?

Rob and WeedWonk have finally found somebody dumb enough to let them fuck him in the ass while bumping to the their lying serenade of cowardly lies.

Says the bitch boy who called me a pussy then hid behind iggy and a .45 when I challenged him to a 1v1 ring match at any US military installation you want as long as it's big enough to have a gym with a ring in it and a weeks notice. You got at least 3 in your local area.....maybe if you weren't so busy running your dick sucker so much you might grow a pair and back some of that good shit you're talking up.


LOL jesus titty fucking christ...you haven't a single shred of honor or integrity do you? I'm betting you continue cowering behind your computer screen and .45...stay scared mother fucker....stay scared.

 

[Que Va]

Just because you drool over some boring dumbass with tits

Laughs at the irony of that statement. Where did you say you met the little Missus again?

 

[ElleryQueen]

. . . and were the exact same size, and had done the exact same things, he probably would be alive today; and if he were not alive, Darren Wilson certainly would be facing an indictment today.

This issue has officially lost its integrity. Forensic investigations prove Brown did not put his hands up and likely reached for Wilson's firearm, so the argument is the race card.

Now listen, when the details were being withheld, I was upset at the rage of the Brown supporters - obviously a withhold of details for such a long time means serious consideration of criminal charges - but I could understand it. When those same supporters insisted that Wilson deliberately discharged his weapon in the car and that he fired even after Brown put his hands up, I was appalled at the presumption of guilt when the autopsy details were being withheld - a point they personally acknowledged - but I at least saw a valid possibility. This...This is moronic.

Dorian Johnson, the star witness of the Brown supporters, testified that he and Brown were in the street and supported Wilson's claim that he stopped to get them on the sidewalk; the only difference at this point being the level of hostility. Where do you see a racially motivated stop? Are you insisting he wouldn't have asked two white boys to get out of the street? Do you believe a racist is capable of ignoring the safety of "one of his own"? And where do you see prior racism? Between the release of information and all these people who were stealing information, you really think a prior act suggesting racial bias would have eluded everyone for so long?

The only people receiving my sympathy is Wilson and his family, but predominantly the man himself. They've all been put through hell because people made him into a monster for doing his job correctly, and his own colleagues, who he must ask to watch his back when he's on the streets, didn't believe in him. I really hope his family stood by him.

 

[possum123]

This issue has officially lost its integrity. Forensic investigations prove Brown did not put his hands up and likely reached for Wilson's firearm, so the argument is the race card.

Now listen, when the details were being withheld, I was upset at the rage of the Brown supporters - obviously a withhold of details for such a long time means serious consideration of criminal charges - but I could understand it. When those same supporters insisted that Wilson deliberately discharged his weapon in the car and that he fired even after Brown put his hands up, I was appalled at the presumption of guilt when the autopsy details were being withheld - a point they personally acknowledged - but I at least saw a valid possibility. This...This is moronic.

Dorian Johnson, the star witness of the Brown supporters, testified that he and Brown were in the street and supported Wilson's claim that he stopped to get them on the sidewalk; the only difference at this point being the level of hostility. Where do you see a racially motivated stop? Are you insisting he wouldn't have asked two white boys to get out of the street? Do you believe a racist is capable of ignoring the safety of "one of his own"? And where do you see prior racism? Between the release of information and all these people who were stealing information, you really think a prior act suggesting racial bias would have eluded everyone for so long?

The only people receiving my sympathy is Wilson and his family, but predominantly the man himself. They've all been put through hell because people made him into a monster for doing his job correctly, and his own colleagues, who he must ask to watch his back when he's on the streets, didn't believe in him. I really hope his family stood by him.

No use trying to explain anything to people who cannot read and get their info from the street. If they could read we would not have to go through all of this bullshit. Ignorance cost .

 

[Ramone45]

I don't want this to come off wrong. What is so special about Michael Brown? Young Black males are slaughtered by the dozens in the "community" every day. "The Community" often accepts it. "Snitches get stitches". If Michael Brown was an innocent victim of a drive-by, and the police reached out for witnesses, there would be silence. Why won't the "community" do anything about the murders committed all the time by people who live among them?

 

[possum123]

I don't want this to come off wrong. What is so special about Michael Brown? Young Black males are slaughtered by the dozens in the "community" every day. "The Community" often accepts it. "Snitches get stitches". If Michael Brown was an innocent victim of a drive-by, and the police reached out for witnesses, there would be silence. Why won't the "community" do anything about the murders committed all the time by people who live among them?

If the person who shot him was his fellow thief who was with him there wouldn't be anything said about it.

The colored race is like that.
They worry about the wheels on their cars looking good when the motor is blown.

 

[Skiddles2014]

Laughs at the irony of that statement. Where did you say you met the little Missus again?

Yeah, that sure is irony. Comparing my wife of 15 yrs to defending some n00b with a big titted avatar on the internet, way to go potato master, you are sharp like tater tot!

Man it's cold out today, I guess global warming is over.

 

[Ramone45]

If the person who shot him was his fellow thief who was with him there wouldn't be anything said about it.

The colored race is like that.
They worry about the wheels on their cars looking good when the motor is blown.

Not to change the subject, but I just saw that. Black people living in a decrepit trailer with fancy shiny wheels on a rusted out 15 yr old car.smh

 

[Kitty]

Yeah, that sure is irony. Comparing my wife of 15 yrs to defending some n00b with a big titted avatar on the internet, way to go potato master, you are sharp like tater tot!

Man it's cold out today, I guess global warming is over.

So what if I'm a "n00b?" And your wife must be an ugly, desperate, foolish piece of shit to be with you.

 

[Skiddles2014]

So what if I'm a "n00b?" And your wife must be an ugly, desperate, foolish piece of shit to be with you.

We can't all be wanna gang bangers, toots.

Ugly...yeah...lol.

#daddyissues

 

[Skiddles2014]

If the person who shot him was his fellow thief who was with him there wouldn't be anything said about it.

The colored race is like that.
They worry about the wheels on their cars looking good when the motor is blown.

The fellow thief isn't being payed by the community and trained by the community to serve and protect.

Why do you hold thieves and cops in the same regard?

 

[possum123]

The fellow thief isn't being payed by the community and trained by the community to serve and protect.

Why do you hold thieves and cops in the same regard?

Every person should be judged the same. It doesn't matter what they are or who they are. It is the actions that matter.

The cop did just what he should have done. Didn't you read the verdict?

 

[PayDay]

The GB is now the BB... The Bs Board!!!

You obviously do not know what you are looking at.

There is no A or B.

 

[rippitydoo]

This issue has officially lost its integrity.

Yeah, but not this time or any recently... Around the first time it happened, with Trayvon & George.

This...This is moronic.

We agree here... If by "this", you mean the decision (or lack thereof) by Twelve Idiotic Humans.

Dorian Johnson, the star witness of the Brown supporters, testified that he and Brown were in the street and supported Wilson's claim that he stopped to get them on the sidewalk; the only difference at this point being the level of hostility. Where do you see a racially motivated stop?

In what you quoted.

Are you insisting he wouldn't have asked two white boys to get out of the street?

Yes. You believe he would have? Fine. In this country (where Brown & Martin happened), you have a right to that opinion. However, all it is is an opinion. Also, as I was watching Obama's speech on TV about it last night, I was thinking that someone in that town has the same ability to grab their gun (as long as they're licensed to own/carry it) & murder Wilson. If I were to read on the 'Net, on TV, or in the paper that this happened, I would make that one of the things I gave thanks for tomorrow.

I would then not be surprised if someone arrested & tried him, but the jury had better come back with the same choice (or lack thereof) the Wilson jury did.

Do you believe a racist is capable of ignoring the safety of "one of his own"?

I prefer not to swear sometimes, so let me just say, "H---, yes." Want my proof? Easy. This officer (regardless of reasons, if in fact he had any) shot a man to the point that man will not be sharing holiday meals with anyone tomorrow. Which one of them were black, white, multi-ethnic, gay or straight? I don't care. I've lived multiple decades learning we're all different. To the best of my knowledge (& I don't expect it to change), the 2 were not related in any way, so how is another white person (like me, also related to neither of these men, Zimmerman, or Martin) one of Wilson's own? In that they were the same because they were human beings.

And where do you see prior racism? Between the release of information and all these people who were stealing information, you really think a prior act suggesting racial bias would have eluded everyone for so long?

Answer to that second question: No. But answer to the first, where do I see prior? Nowhere in their history. But another thing I've read & heard a lot growing up is "There's a first time for everything".

The only people receiving my sympathy is Wilson and his family, but predominantly the man himself. They've all been put through hell because people made him into a monster for doing his job correctly, and his own colleagues, who he must ask to watch his back when he's on the streets, didn't believe in him. I really hope his family stood by him.

I'm betting his family stood by him, & some of the same ones (& maybe more/others) will be by him tomorrow. Brown's family may do the same. but instead of a chair, will be looking at a spot on the ground somewhere.

Also, I do not send my sympathy to Wilson's family or Brown's, but perhaps a little to Craig... Why?! He's had to be a nationally-known figure all this time, hearing & reading people complain about "Ferguson", knowing it had nothing to do with him (within 6 months of leaving his national job, too). Also, some sympathy to anyone named "Craig" or anything else in the Ferguson area of they get hurt in any way by mistake due to anyone understandably acting violently or in any other way to express their understandable, justified anger at this miscarriage of justice.

 

[snugglestruggle]

I think it doesn't matter what color you are, you assault a cop and your physically bigger than him your giving him license to shoot you. Life is not a video game, you get 1 life.

 

[rippitydoo]

I think it doesn't matter what color you are, you assault a cop and your physically bigger than him your giving him license to shot you. Life is not a video game, you get 1 life.

You assault anyone, & I think anything they do in return (right then, not weeks later) is legally defined as defense...

...However, the cop kills you when you did nothing to him or his family, & that's defined as murder. Even so, he's a cop; Any & all other officers will defend him if & when they testify, & no jurist will vote to convict in case he learns your name, & will arrest you claiming a similar attack the next time he sees your car parked at McDonald's.

 

[ElleryQueen]

So then, let's dissect the posts of rippitydoo, and see how much logic resides on Brown's side these days.

In what you quoted.

Provides no explanation for how a seemingly legitimate stop is actually racially motivated.

I prefer not to swear sometimes, so let me just say, "H---, yes." Want my proof? Easy. This officer (regardless of reasons, if in fact he had any) shot a man to the point that man will not be sharing holiday meals with anyone tomorrow. Which one of them were black, white, multi-ethnic, gay or straight? I don't care. I've lived multiple decades learning we're all different. To the best of my knowledge (& I don't expect it to change), the 2 were not related in any way, so how is another white person (like me, also related to neither of these men, Zimmerman, or Martin) one of Wilson's own? In that they were the same because they were human beings.

Preaches of racism and its evils, yet isn't familiar with the long standing racist phrase "one of his own", causing him to miss the point that racists stick by those of the same race.

Answer to that second question: No. But answer to the first, where do I see prior? Nowhere in their history. But another thing I've read & heard a lot growing up is "There's a first time for everything".

Bootstrapping.

Also, I do not send my sympathy to Wilson's family or Brown's, but perhaps a little to Craig... Why?! He's had to be a nationally-known figure all this time, hearing & reading people complain about "Ferguson", knowing it had nothing to do with him (within 6 months of leaving his national job, too). Also, some sympathy to anyone named "Craig" or anything else in the Ferguson area of they get hurt in any way by mistake due to anyone understandably acting violently or in any other way to express their understandable, justified anger at this miscarriage of justice.

Immaterial and immature pop culture reference.

Yes. You believe he would have? Fine. In this country (where Brown & Martin happened), you have a right to that opinion. However, all it is is an opinion. Also, as I was watching Obama's speech on TV about it last night, I was thinking that someone in that town has the same ability to grab their gun (as long as they're licensed to own/carry it) & murder Wilson. If I were to read on the 'Net, on TV, or in the paper that this happened, I would make that one of the things I gave thanks for tomorrow.

I would then not be surprised if someone arrested & tried him, but the jury had better come back with the same choice (or lack thereof) the Wilson jury did.

You assault anyone, & I think anything they do in return (right then, not weeks later) is legally defined as defense...

...However, the cop kills you when you did nothing to him or his family, & that's defined as murder. Even so, he's a cop; Any & all other officers will defend him if & when they testify, & no jurist will vote to convict in case he learns your name, & will arrest you claiming a similar attack the next time he sees your car parked at McDonald's.

And double standards along side a complete ignorance of the issue and the law.

rippitydoo, stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[rippitydoo]

So then, let's... see how much logic resides on Brown's side these days.

More than the side of that LIVING, free man.

Provides no explanation for how a seemingly legitimate stop is actually racially motivated.

Nor does it disprove it. Wilson still gets to live, so call it a tie when he gets to live the rest of that life behind bars.

Preaches of racism and its evils, yet isn't familiar with the long standing racist phrase "one of his own", causing him to miss the point that racists stick by those of the same race.

Very familiar with the phrase, but also familiar that it has no place in this situation/case. Two weeks before this happened, doubt any friends of Wilson could've expected/said he was the type of guy to kill anyone in this situation, regardless of their race. The only thing we can do now is not be surprised when he does it a second time; He should lose that chance by being limited to inside some building, be it a jail, his house, etc.

Bootstrapping.

Shoe-tying. Seriously, gun-holstering: How you keep this mistake (Wilson's) from happening in the first place.

Pop culture reference.

Current, & related.

Then, you quote a lot of what I said, followed by more of what I said outside the quote-box, but no response... Perhaps your way of admitting you agree with it.

And double standards along side a complete ignorance of the issue and the law.

Actually, no double-standard. That was a statement of my understanding of the law (stated that way, beginning with the admittance it was not certainly the law, but what "I think" it to be). As for ignorance of the law, that may be true, but the same was shown by the jury's failure to indict, as well as the fact that Obama's reacting speech (which I watched every second of) didn't include what I believe to be his right to use his legal power to overrule them & indict, among (perhaps) other things.

rippitydoo, stop embarrassing yourself.

I did... Same way I stopped drinking and smoking: Never started.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Actually, no double-standard. That was a statement of my understanding of the law (stated that way, beginning with the admittance it was not certainly the law, but what "I think" it to be). As for ignorance of the law, that may be true, but the same was shown by the jury's failure to indict, as well as the fact that Obama's reacting speech (which I watched every second of) didn't include what I believe to be his right to use his legal power to overrule them & indict, among (perhaps) other things.

The Big O has absolutely no authority to override the no bill voted by the grand jury. He is a federal official and a charge of murder would have been a state charge. It might be possible for him to get his lap dog AG to charge Wilson with a civil rights violation but it would be hard to see any point to it. I strongly doubt, given the evidence that came to light, that there would be a chance at a conviction.

The grand jury showed knowledge of the law. They surveyed all the evidence and voted the only way they reasonably could have. I'm absolutely certain they know more about the case than you or I do.

 

[rippitydoo]

The Big O has absolutely no authority to override the no bill voted by the grand jury. He is a federal official and a charge of murder would have been a state charge. It might be possible for him to get his lap dog AG to charge Wilson with a civil rights violation but it would be hard to see any point to it.

So you're telling me if a US soldier overseas kills a few terrorists... Then, while he's there, he gets a bit trigger-happy (maybe due to the stress, etc.) & kills an innocent person too, they can try him for murder there (where civil rights might be less, & he get killed as punishment) instead of Obama having him tried in a US court, where he'd still be convicted, but might live to see his family again?! Don't buy it.

The grand jury showed knowledge of the law. They surveyed all the evidence and voted the only way they reasonably could have. I'm absolutely certain they know more about the case than you or I do.

I'm just as certain of the truth of the statement you made in that last sentence... Which is why I'm just as sure that the statement you made in the one previous ("voted the only way they reasonably could have) is a guess/opinion, & not the fact you're stating it as.

 

[Boxlicker101]

So you're telling me if a US soldier overseas kills a few terrorists... Then, while he's there, he gets a bit trigger-happy (maybe due to the stress, etc.) & kills an innocent person too, they can try him for murder there (where civil rights might be less, & he get killed as punishment) instead of Obama having him tried in a US court, where he'd still be convicted, but might live to see his family again?! Don't buy it.

Generally speaking, the US has status of forces agreements in places where Americans are stationed. They are intended to eliminate the possibilities you mentioned. One reason US forces left Iraq prematurely was the lack of such an agreement. In a situation such as you describe, the shooter would be tried in a military court martial, either in the host country or back in the US. If convicted, he or she would serve time in a federal prison in the US.

I don't see what this has to do with the case in point, because the latter happened in MO and involved persons not in the military service.

I'm just as certain of the truth of the statement you made in that last sentence... Which is why I'm just as sure that the statement you made in the one previous ("voted the only way they reasonably could have) is a guess/opinion, & not the fact you're stating it as.

The Grand Jury considered more evidence than you and I know about. We have all heard bogus claims, such as "shot in the back when he was surrendering" and similar claims, some of them strictly hearsay and many of them untrue. Because of the forensic evidence (three autopsies, bullet trajectories, gunpowder residue) and testimony from disinterested eyewitnesses (as opposed to Brown's homeys) that corroborated Wilson's story, the grand jury was satisfied there was no probable cause.

 

[mark_j]

More than the side of that LIVING, free man.



Nor does it disprove it. Wilson still gets to live, so call it a tie when he gets to live the rest of that life behind bars.



Very familiar with the phrase, but also familiar that it has no place in this situation/case. Two weeks before this happened, doubt any friends of Wilson could've expected/said he was the type of guy to kill anyone in this situation, regardless of their race. The only thing we can do now is not be surprised when he does it a second time; He should lose that chance by being limited to inside some building, be it a jail, his house, etc.



Shoe-tying. Seriously, gun-holstering: How you keep this mistake (Wilson's) from happening in the first place.



Current, & related.

Then, you quote a lot of what I said, followed by more of what I said outside the quote-box, but no response... Perhaps your way of admitting you agree with it.



Actually, no double-standard. That was a statement of my understanding of the law (stated that way, beginning with the admittance it was not certainly the law, but what "I think" it to be). As for ignorance of the law, that may be true, but the same was shown by the jury's failure to indict, as well as the fact that Obama's reacting speech (which I watched every second of) didn't include what I believe to be his right to use his legal power to overrule them & indict, among (perhaps) other things.



I did... Same way I stopped drinking and smoking: Never started.

So let me get this straight. After hundreds of hours of testimony, written statements and forensics that seem to back up the Officers testimony about what happened you still want to see an indictment?

What are you going to charge him with?

Do you honestly think a prosecutor is going to take a case that is pretty much impossible to get a conviction on?

Seems to me that what you and all the other protestors really want is a public lynching.

To hell with the law, let's just string the bastard up right?

And if you can't have that, you are going to run around like a bunch of mindless goons pillaging, looting and burning your own community. Have any of you really thought this out or have you just been whipped up by the race baiters and media hacks who haven't bothered to take the time to actually examine the case.

 

[rippitydoo]

I don't see what this has to do with the case in point, because the latter happened in MO and involved persons not in the military service.

Exactly what I was saying... But last I knew, MO was a state (relatives lived there decades ago), & all involved were citizens. That means in the US States, they have to follow federal laws, & (I believe) that Congress, Presidents, etc. can choose to punish them for breaking laws at any level (federal, state. etc.). You said Obama has/had no power, & I refute(d) that.

The Grand Jury considered more evidence than you and I know about. We have all heard bogus claims, such as "shot in the back when he was surrendering" and similar claims, some of them strictly hearsay and many of them untrue. Because of the forensic evidence (three autopsies, bullet trajectories, gunpowder residue) and testimony from disinterested eyewitnesses (as opposed to Brown's homeys) that corroborated Wilson's story, the grand jury was satisfied there was no probable cause.

Not only did they consider more, but different. (As you said, plenty of bogus claims.).. Which means we don't know the amount or content of what they considered. Yet there you go again, listing things like you're sure they considered those things (& perhaps only those), not to mention "eyewitnesses" (who were almost-surely not "disinterested")... Anyway, the jury finally announced their opinion was there was no probable cause. (I likewise refuse to believe all of them actually felt that way, or that such would be the case to even any dozen who saw & heard the exact same evidence they did.)

Oh, & since you replied to my comments, too, "mark", let me respond to yours...

Yes, I wanted an indictment. Last I checked, Brown died as a result, so murder seems like an easy (& easily-proven) charge. I know people who never went to college who could've gotten a conviction on that (myself included).

I don't want a lynching; Too public & might take too long. I say, "Eye for an eye," let him die the same way the man he killed did... Also, I see nothing wrong with a little damage to community property; Heck, some cities do that when teams win a sports Title, not to mention the city's already worse by losing MB & letting this officer continue to "roam free" (& probably keep his job).