LOL!! The Ultimate Bush hatred

Wildcard Ky

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This guy is the classic example of someone looking for ANYTHING to hate about Bush. He devotes an entire article to criticizing Bush for exercising too much. Here's the part that I found most amusing though.

It also shows how out of touch he is. It's nice for Bush that he can take an hour or two out of every day to run, bike or pump iron. Unfortunately, most of us have more demanding jobs than he does.

This writer thinks most people have a more demanding job than the President? It's amazing the depths that some people will stoop to in order to justify their hatred.

Here's the link to the whole article. Registration is required.

LA Times
 
Wildcard Ky said:
This guy is the classic example of someone looking for ANYTHING to hate about Bush. He devotes an entire article to criticizing Bush for exercising too much. Here's the part that I found most amusing though.

It also shows how out of touch he is. It's nice for Bush that he can take an hour or two out of every day to run, bike or pump iron. Unfortunately, most of us have more demanding jobs than he does.

The editorial section of the LA Times was never all that sensible to start with, but it went into an especially deep decline when Michael Kinsley took over as editor. Apparently it's declined to the point where writers have been replaced by random sentence generators. The quoted editorial hasn't a single idea that makes any sense. It could be the worst piece of writing I've ever seen in a major (or minor) newspaper.

This paragraph revels in being empty-headed: "Bush can bench press 185 pounds five times, and, before a recent knee injury, he ran three miles at a 6-minute, 45-second pace. That's better than I could manage when I played two sports in high school. And I wasn't holding the most powerful office on Earth. Which is sort of my point: Does the leader of the free world need to attain that level of physical achievement?"

Thanks for providing the link... I think.
 
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Strangely, you missed the main point of Jonathan Chait’s article.

His objection was not that the Chimp in Charge exercises, but that when things happen and we inadvertently get a peek at his schedule, he invariably is off bicycling, or exercising, or has gone for a long run.

Even at that, the exercise wasn’t the brunt of Mr. Chait’ complaint, although he did wonder in passing what normal presidential duties were being shirked (briefing papers not adequately comprehended, that sort of thing) to free up time away from running the country.

When you quoted Mr. Chait’s article: “Unfortunately, most of us have more demanding jobs than he does.” Mr. Chait was not referring to Uncurious George’s obsession with exercise, he was commenting about the 2002 fitness campaign W initiated by leading 400 White House staffers on a three-mile run. These are the people whom Mr. Chait was suggesting might have more demanding jobs than the president.

Still, this was all background, used to illuminate the main thrust of the article, following the presidential exercise obsession from the 2002, when Dubya fired Lawrence Lindsey, his overweight economic advisor (who admitted to Congress that the Iraq war might cost $200 billion) complaining privately about Lindsey's failure to exercise; up to the present [Publishing date: July 22, 2005] when the Troglodyte Texan interviewed Judge J. Harvie Wilkinson III for a potential Supreme Court nomination and he asked Wilkinson how much he exercised.

”The Judge impressively responded that he runs 3 ½ miles a day. Bush urged him to adopt more cross-training. "He warned me of impending doom," Wilkinson told the New York Times.

Which brought Chait to his main point:

The notion of a connection between physical and mental potency is, of course, silly. (Consider all the perfectly toned airheads in Hollywood — or, perhaps, the president himself.) But Bush's apparent belief in it explains why he would demand well-conditioned economic advisors and Supreme Court justices.



This then is not the argument which you suggested that the journalist you so judiciously quoted had published, but is only your rather distorted reading of one more account of the countless eccentricities (to give them the kindest interpretation possible) of your chosen Commander In Chief.

I don’t mind that you think too highly of George the Lesser. That is your prerogative.

What I object to is misrepresenting a report with which you don’t agree into something that it is not, and then criticising the reporter for the abortion that you yourself have perpetrated.
 
I don't hate Bush, but I'm not all that much of a fan, either. I still think it's a totally bizarre editorial. It boils down to this:

"The president likes to exercise. It makes him feel good physically, and he thinks that feeling good physically helps his mental attitude. He's concerned about the health of those around him, but can be hyper-critical of those not as well conditioned as he is. He thinks it would do everybody good to exercise. All this proves yet again that Bush is a rotten cocksucking bastard mofo unfit to run the country."
 
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There are hundreds of reasons to hate W. that have nothing to do with his exercise regimen. Personally, I have yet to find one single redeeming quality in the man.
 
Boota said:
There are hundreds of reasons to hate W. that have nothing to do with his exercise regimen. Personally, I have yet to find one single redeeming quality in the man.


He's not banging Monica Lewinski.
He seems fairly devoted to his wife & kids.
He seems to hold deep convictions, and where you can dislike those convictions, he isn't afraid to say he holds them nor to stand up for them.

He is, I believe a reformed alcoholic. It's very hard not to respect someone who can admit an addiction, get help, and beat that addiction.

There are few people running around this world who have no redeeming qualitites. They are out there, but they are a very very tiny fraction of the population. To lump the president in with that small fraction would seem to be more ilustrative ov Wildcards point then the article.
 
I found the article particularly amusing when read side-by-side with one of the various "never done a day's hard physical work in his life" complaints.

I think Colly is right. When one insists that every single action a specific human being has ever taken is wrong and that he has no redeeming qualities of any kind, one really says more about oneself than about the person in question. Even Ezra Pound has, amid the ruin of his morals and ethics, a few quite good verses.

Shanglan
 
Personally, I think he seems like a pretty nice guy to go hunting or golfing with.

On the other hand, he seems to be intentionally incurious, stubbornly anti-intellectual, dangerously naive, and irritatingly smug and arrogant. I think it's his smugness and arrogance that sets people off. As Molly Ivins said about him, "He was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple."

I doubt I'll ever forgive him for going into Iraq without a clue as to what to do once we got there. What's happening there now is a direct result of his policies and decisions.
 
Colleen Thomas said:
He's not banging Monica Lewinski.
He seems fairly devoted to his wife & kids.
He seems to hold deep convictions, and where you can dislike those convictions, he isn't afraid to say he holds them nor to stand up for them.

He is, I believe a reformed alcoholic. It's very hard not to respect someone who can admit an addiction, get help, and beat that addiction.

There are few people running around this world who have no redeeming qualitites. They are out there, but they are a very very tiny fraction of the population. To lump the president in with that small fraction would seem to be more ilustrative ov Wildcards point then the article.

Your point is taken, Colly. But I find these qualities irrelevant in the face of his other deficiencies, the ones which effect the country on a daily basis.

I didn't care that Clinton was banging Monica Lewinsky, I wouldn't care if Bush was. (I'd find it amusing, though.) I'll agree that he does seem devoted to his family and his convictions, but I can't vouch that he really is. For all I know about him it's all part of the political act. To me he seems like someone who is devoted to the image of being a man of conviction. He admits he is a reformed alcoholic, yet he still looks down on people who are currently addicted to substances, alcohol or otherwise.

I'll concede that he may have some redeeming qualities, however, none of them have anything to do with his ability, or lack thereof, to be a President. He's a Silver Spoon brat who has never earned a single thing in his life on his own merit. Because of his family he has been afforded the ability to fail upwards. If he were Joe W. Blow he would most likely be laid off and living in a squalid trailer park right now, drunk and abusing the stripper he would live with, instead of resting on his father's laurels in the White House. He is the only President in our history that I can put zero respect in. I honestly believe that he is has done nothing right and done nothing for the right reasons in his entire Presidency.
 
It isn't a man's morals or beliefs I judge, it's their actions.

George's actions don't please me. He's widening the political split in America, draining the nation's treasury, expending lives and wealth in Iraq for no purpose.

He has put industry lobbyists in control of the federal agencies responsible for monitoring those industries.

He is destroying the separation of church and state as well as undermining the independence of the judiciary.

He has weakened the SEC and the IRS. The majority of his tax cuts have gone to people who don't need any more money.

Certainly, he may be a good family man, a religious man and one who has overcome a great problem.

But history will judge him on the ruin he made of a once great nation.
 
Let the man exercise. Hell, I hope he plays for eight hours a day. That's 8 less hours he isn't fucking me over or starting some sort of war.
 
Boota said:
Your point is taken, Colly. But I find these qualities irrelevant in the face of his other deficiencies, the ones which effect the country on a daily basis.

I didn't care that Clinton was banging Monica Lewinsky, I wouldn't care if Bush was. (I'd find it amusing, though.) I'll agree that he does seem devoted to his family and his convictions, but I can't vouch that he really is. For all I know about him it's all part of the political act. To me he seems like someone who is devoted to the image of being a man of conviction. He admits he is a reformed alcoholic, yet he still looks down on people who are currently addicted to substances, alcohol or otherwise.

I'll concede that he may have some redeeming qualities, however, none of them have anything to do with his ability, or lack thereof, to be a President. He's a Silver Spoon brat who has never earned a single thing in his life on his own merit. Because of his family he has been afforded the ability to fail upwards. If he were Joe W. Blow he would most likely be laid off and living in a squalid trailer park right now, drunk and abusing the stripper he would live with, instead of resting on his father's laurels in the White House. He is the only President in our history that I can put zero respect in. I honestly believe that he is has done nothing right and done nothing for the right reasons in his entire Presidency.


I absolutely had no inent to say he was a good president, a good statesman or even a good fellow. Nor did I expect to put his redeeming qualities besides his faults and hope to present an argument he's a good person.

I think Wildcard's point, and my own, is that you can dislike someone without demonizing them. when you decide to demonize your opponent, you loose any credibility with those who don't already share your point of view that he's evil as A Hitler or Stalin. Obviously he isn't and just as obviously he has some redeeming qualities.

The writer of the article takes what 90% of the population sees as a virtue, maintaining a physical fitness regimen and turns it into a vice. I know many professionals who jog an hour a day or go to the health club after work. I used to do it religiously. It never cut into my time at work. It's a really weak excuse to decry the man and I dobt it finds much resonance with any but rabid bush haters to begin with is all..
 
rgraham666 said:
It isn't a man's morals or beliefs I judge, it's their actions.

George's actions don't please me. He's widening the political split in America, draining the nation's treasury, expending lives and wealth in Iraq for no purpose.

He has put industry lobbyists in control of the federal agencies responsible for monitoring those industries.

He is destroying the separation of church and state as well as undermining the independence of the judiciary.

He has weakened the SEC and the IRS. The majority of his tax cuts have gone to people who don't need any more money.

Certainly, he may be a good family man, a religious man and one who has overcome a great problem.

But history will judge him on the ruin he made of a once great nation.


I suspect history will judge him in much the same light as bill Clinton, James buchanon, Millard filmore and a host of others. A caretaker president.

He's accomplished nothing that would raise him to the august company of Jefferson, Lincoln, Washington, Either of the roosevelts or even Harry S. Tuman. At the same time his screw ups don't place him in the company of Grant, Harding, Hoover or Carter.

Partisan politics aside, he has been neither exceptionally good nor exceptionally bad. In the judgement of history I suspect he will just be kind of there, holding a place between the last really good president and the next. And holding a place between the last really bad one and the next.
 
My two cents:

Bush is an idiot.

We don't ever have to have him for President ever again after 2008.

That makes the world a better place. Sorry for the inconvienence (fuck me, I can't spell today) in the meanwhile, dwellers of the world, but take comfort in the same fact that I do: you didn't vote for him.
 
Wildcard Ky said:
This guy is the classic example of someone looking for ANYTHING to hate about Bush. He devotes an entire article to criticizing Bush for exercising too much. Here's the part that I found most amusing though.

It also shows how out of touch he is. It's nice for Bush that he can take an hour or two out of every day to run, bike or pump iron. Unfortunately, most of us have more demanding jobs than he does.

This writer thinks most people have a more demanding job than the President? It's amazing the depths that some people will stoop to in order to justify their hatred.

Here's the link to the whole article. Registration is required.

LA Times
The joy of free speach. People made an awful fuss over a cigar and a dress once too and Clinton only fucked one person, bush is fucking over the whole country.
 
Colleen Thomas said:
Partisan politics aside, he has been neither exceptionally good nor exceptionally bad. In the judgement of history I suspect he will just be kind of there, holding a place between the last really good president and the next. And holding a place between the last really bad one and the next.

I think the point is, partisan politics aside, he has been exceptionally bad.

Worst job-creation record since Hoover, and continuing awful workforce-participation rate.
Declining real income for all but the wealthy.
Lied to the electorate and Congress to start a war of choice that has no foreseeable end.
The first president in history to cut taxes during wartime.
His closest advisors place party politics over national security.
Places energy industry concerns over national security and environmental science.
Gets blowjobs in oval office from Karl Rove. [Okay, we don't know that one for sure...]
 
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