Logarithmic Learing of our Human Minds - #2.

[Sparky Kronkite]

[I spent so much time on that last - I cookied out and lost my ID. Sorry. So I fixed and added.]

Logarithmic Learing of our Human Minds.

Our minds - our human minds, as they evolve, from one generation to the next - gather data at ever-increasing rates of speed.

Generationally speaking, we not only learn faster but we store ever-increasing amounts of data.

This accumulated data – a sort of “historic well of information” – fills higher and higher -as more and more information becomes available to learn and retain – this with each new generation of human minds. So with each new, more evolved generation, with each new mind, there comes a new “bench mark of common data” from which to accumulate and store – even more, even faster - data.

And that “more-faster” data is always increasing in both depth and breath. It’s much like nuclear fission – it’s run-away. It can’t be stopped

So – we are smarter than our parents. Not exactly more intelligent - (because their minds have “the capability” to learn and hold all the “newest” information too) - just smarter.

The human mind, our brains – have not really evolved that much over human history, our brains have not gotten all that much “bigger” – and in particular - not at all relative to the growth of information – or data – increasingly available for the human mind to learn and retain.

Your children will be much smarter than you. Their children will be much smarter them. And on, and on it goes.

As we all know – we only utilize a small part of our brain. The human brain is no more than a data sponge, soaking in information, holding it and using it to gather more information.

But as we humans continue to generationally evolve – and raise “the bench mark of common data” – from one new child to another – the working areas of the brain increase.

I wonder when, what generation, what year, what time - the human brain will reach it’s full capacity, it’s plateau of learning and retaining information??????

What will happen then?

Will our brains capacity finally begin to catch up, growth wise - with speed and growth of data?

Will we overload? Short circuit? Explode?

Will our brains melt? Fry?

Will we then “know it all?” I mean – if you can’t “take in” any more new information –then that information does not exist – right? You can’t “see that new information” so it’s not there. You cease to learn. You can’t. Right?

 

[sexy-girl]

intresting .. i read somewhere that the human brain can hold a million thoughts

 

[livin_simple]

I'm not sure I completely agree with you Sparky.

In many ways, everything that is new is really old. Much of our fundamental mathematics and physics was discovered by the ancient greeks. Our modern algebra was invented in the 1700's. Much of our advanced computer algorithms are simply a repackaging of algorithms and mathematical solutions that have been around for decades.

I think we are no smarter than previous generations, we simply have more access to information. Many of the people whom I encounter are 'smart' in the trivial facts sense of knowing lots of things, but they aren't 'smart' in the sense of understanding, seeing interconnections and solving problems based upon observations. If anything, I think the current generation is more shallow, less capable of deep thinking and focused only upon the instant feedback, minimal effort approach to life.

 

[Pokerman]

intresting .. i read somewhere that the human brain can hold a million thoughts

and 999,999 of them are about sex....

 

[Myrrdin]

Our life span increases with each generation. So the time available for education in our lives gets more. Knowledge is readily available at the touch of a button.

I,m sure we're faced with more learning than ever. But for every fact we learn , our brain makes space by forgetting some thing else, that we haven't accessed for awhile.

 

[sexy-girl]

lets face it theres an awful lot the modern human being cant do that ancient humans did ... e.g we're not as good at sword making or castle building ... im sure we were better at hunting then we are now


alot of the engineering feats that were done by ancient humans we simply couldnt do now with the same precision

 

[Sparky Kronkite]

Well, I thought this would happen.....

the definitions and interpretations of the meaning of - smart, smarter, intelligence etc., - or any word that indicates, "the ability to define, research, reason, rationalize and create," blurr and muddy the point.

The difinition of "smart" or "intellect" is not the point.

The point is this - "more."

More data, more information stored - equals - more tools, more amunition, more points of view, more fact, more reality, more truth - with which to - define, research, reason, rationalize and create.

This "moreness" would indicate to me that this "ever increasing" ability is "better" - superoir to the prior - which is of course "less."

The "more" data one has with which to solve problems or seek answers - is better. One makes better, more correct decisions.

 

[sexy-girl]

im not sure if we do have more though ... we dont need alot of the information that ancient humans needed ... thats replaced with more modern memorys/knowledge ... computers and science etc

 

[FlamingoBlue]

Intellect is not where it's at....

If it were, we would have concluded long ago that wars are dumb. How much killing and bloodshed do we have to experience before we figure that out?? How much more data do we need??

We live in an age that we can communicate instantly from any place in the world and we still haven't learned how to talk to each other. When's that gonna happen??

blue

 

[Sparky Kronkite]

There is no holding back data/information....

"It" is infinite.

Every new piece of information leads to, at the very least - another single piece of information, even if that single piece of information is merely a question.

Most often a new piece of information leads to an infinite amount of new information. And an infinite amount of new questions too.

For any "normal thinking human mind" this is inescapable.

The problem with "intellect, reason and war" is not "intellect" - it's "emotion." Even with the vast amounts of knowledge and information "we" have accumulated thus far "today," we, humans can't get over the emotional hump.

The hump that let's us "allow emotionally fueled action - to overrule intellectual reason."

 

[Sparky Kronkite]

The human brain forgets nothing......

It has a recycle bin - and every bit of information the brain takes in "is stored," in there somewhere.

Sure - you may not be able to access it - this may be a problem. But it's there.

Even if information "is hidden" in your recycle bin - it is accessible via your subconscious - and thus equates in every decision you make. In every answer you formulate. In every question you ask.

Whether you are "aware" of it or not.

 

[FlamingoBlue]

So, Sparkster....

Are you saying that intellect is overriden by emotion?? That War is emotional and not intellectual?? That intellect, no matter how highly advanced is laid waste by emotion??/ I think not and I wish that I had the time and te patience to search for information to back me up. UNFORTUNATELY, I have to work today.

This is a very good thread, my friend. I
wonder how it would look with a velvet print of 2 smiling kids hanging on the wall, next to a smiling velvet Elvis, of course.

blue

 

[Sparky Kronkite]

"That intellect, no matter how highly advanced is laid waste by emotion??"

Nope never said that Blue - and don't think that's true. I'm a positive person - I believe that "some day" our intellect will overrule the emotionally driven stupidity of war.

But it ain't happenin' any time soon.

There in nothing, "NOTHING!!!!" Intellegent about war at all. Not today. Not yesterday. Not tomorrow. Never.

Anyone who promotes, contributes or participates in any way - to war - does so not out of intellect - they do it for other reasons - all basically fueled by human emotion.

And if you ask them - they'll tell you so. All the great generals (most ofe'm pretty smart dudes) will tell you that was is pure insanity - and insanity is "short circuited intellect."

 

[Ksss]

Personally, I think wars are generated by greed. Who actually benefits from a war? If there were no wars, there wouldn't be a need for armed services, arms dealers, some politicians.

 

[SpectreT]

It's a very sad fact that, barring physical or mental trauma, one never forgets anything. I could really use a "Norton Clean Sweep" for my mind. I've got so much useless crap floating around in there. Television advertisement jingles from when I was a kid, the atomic weight of Lawrencium.. Wait. that one's hiding in the "Recycle Bin" again. Had it a second ago. and hell, there are whole experiences I could quite happily live without knocking around my skull; every humiliation and failure I've ever had in my life. I'd LOVE to not have those anymore. The only thing I ever learned from any of them is never to try, never to work towards anything, because it'll all be taken away, and everyone will laugh at you while it happens. That feeling is probably the only thing holding me back, and as long as those memories are there, I'll continue the same cycles of failure over and over again, re-inforcing the basic message even more. The subconscious mind sucks that way.

 

[Guest]

Ksss?

Greed just doesn't bubble up naturally within oneself, it doesn’t simply occur - it too is basically driven by human emotions.

Greed can be/is the result of many complex human conditions, all originating in some combination of dysfunctional, mutated, human emotions.

Inferiority, lack of a healthy/positive self-esteem – these drive want, need, yearning and the desire for "more." When it becomes so strong as to steer people into deviant, immoral, and even violent behavior, in order to - "get more" – then, this is when greed appears.

But it all stems from some emotional disjunction and resultant lack of self-control.

Greed is a result of lost self-control, driving one toward criminal or near criminal/immoral behavior in order to obtain something that is not rightfully there own – all for the purposes of satiating a poor self-image.

Inadequacy. It’s a feeling. A negative human trait that afflicts most of us. An emotion most of us control by various moral means. When someone loses control and attempts to quell their inadequacy via “obtaining things” by immoral means – we call this greed.