Living Characters?

[SEVERUSMAX]

My slave and I discussed this idea, albeit in different forms.

One scenario (her idea), is that the characters start talking directly to the author or speaking about him or her, complaining about the direction that he or she is trying to take them. For instance, we were thinking of an LW story of the cliche cuckold type where the wife puts her foot down and refuses to cheat on her husband or treat him like a cuckold anymore, no matter what the author tries to make her do. She says, "Hey, there, I don't want to be a cheating, cruel, unkind wife and slut around with my husband's friends or deny him sex! That's just not me!"

Another (my idea) is where the characters step outside of the story and become flesh-and-blood people. It's similar to a Donna Mills movie I saw once with a murderer coming to life, only this would involve a smut story and some randy characters acting out what they choose, eventually causing the writer to describe their acts, not cause them. They might even seduce the writer.

 

[bisexplicit]

The first scenario might make a good humor/satire.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

The first scenario might make a good humor/satire.

Yeah, that's what we thought.

 

[Sean Renaud]

You just have to be very careful with it. I personally think that its done best as a header and footer to the story. I once read a fan fiction for Xiaolin Showdown that did this.

Pretty much at the end of each chapter the main charachter would complain about why the author hated him so much and kept trying to kill him. It can be hilarious if you do it well.

 

[BedtimeStories77]

Reminds me of a book called The Book of the Damned by D. A. Fowler. Though, it wasn't funny or erotic... lol

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Still think it would be funnier to have the characters interact with the author in the story.

And to have them become flesh and blood.

 

[BedtimeStories77]

Still think it would be funnier to have the characters interact with the author in the story.

And to have them become flesh and blood.

Sould it be like Secret Window and manifested in the author's mind, or should they "for really real" come to life?

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Sould it be like Secret Window and manifested in the author's mind, or should they "for really real" come to life?

Could work either way, but I was thinking primarily of the latter. A kind of bizarre magic that causes the characters to leave the person's mind and appear in a physical sense (or simply transfer to the page that he or she is writing on).

 

[BedtimeStories77]

Either way it is an interesting idea. Don't think it's been done here, at least.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Either way it is an interesting idea. Don't think it's been done here, at least.

Cool. And some characters might well voice such opinions, if they were capable of it. Like the husband might say, "Hey, I don't want to be a cuckold. I WANT to get laid now and then, thank you! No, I don't want to wear that chastity belt!" Particularly if the writer has created a husband with any balls at all. Not to say that all such stories are unrealistic, when people are capable of anything and truth is stranger than fiction. Just saying that not all people go for that.

That would be like if I assumed (wrongly) that everyone wants to swing or was bi, and I tried to make a character do that, when they didn't wish to. Now, most of my characters are bi or swingers, but I don't assume that everyone in real life is, and if I feel a character fighting that move on my part, I would be wise to listen to the character. Otherwise, it might feel "forced" or "stilted" and less realistic.

For an example, in the series "Untouchable" (the 2nd chapter of which I need to add to the site soon), I found that the main male character, Gustavo, didn't want to stay married to his wife and keep cheating on her. He wanted to end his unhappy marriage and marry his new girlfriend. Who was I to resist?

 

[BedtimeStories77]

For an example, in the series "Untouchable" (the 2nd chapter of which I need to add to the site soon), I found that the main male character, Gustavo, didn't want to stay married to his wife and keep cheating on her. He wanted to end his unhappy marriage and marry his new girlfriend. Who was I to resist?

lol

Yeah, shame on you for trying to keep your character unhappy.

 

[BedtimeStories77]

Thinking more on this...

How do you see the "mechanics" of this happening? Like, do you start off writing a "normal" story and suddently the character is like "Hey, dude, stop making me fuck my wife! I don't love her anymore!" lol

How does one make it clear to a reader that the "original" tale has stopped and the characters are "talking to the author"? (Without saying, "Suddenly Bob jumped off his wife, turned, and spoke to me". I hate the boring "play by play" descriptions.)

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

lol

Yeah, shame on you for trying to keep your character unhappy.

LMAO. I thought he might be happy just keeping a mistress, but he refused. He preferred to marry his new lover from India. Just a classic case of someone being tired of a toxic marriage, except for the fact that this was erotic fiction.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Thinking more on this...

How do you see the "mechanics" of this happening? Like, do you start off writing a "normal" story and suddently the character is like "Hey, dude, stop making me fuck my wife! I don't love her anymore!" lol

How does one make it clear to a reader that the "original" tale has stopped and the characters are "talking to the author"? (Without saying, "Suddenly Bob jumped off his wife, turned, and spoke to me". I hate the boring "play by play" descriptions.)

I'm not sure. I might use bold or italics for when the characters speak.

And, from my experience, the characters simply pull a sit-down strike: that is, they impose writer's block on me until I comply. If I try to proceed, anyway, it sounds like an inferior, cliche tale. I have learned that the hard way. Some of my older stories were still good, but they could have been much better.

 

[BedtimeStories77]

I'd love to see this tale come to life. It's very creative and original IMO.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

I'd love to see this tale come to life. It's very creative and original IMO.

Thanks.

 

[Sean Renaud]

If you don't get to work on it soon I might just steal it from you. I really like the idea, especially if you start the story off like that. I think that I would begin and end each chapter with the char and the author conversing.

Like the charachter reading the chapter heading and summary and saying. "This is going to suck. You're going to make me do what?! What did I ever do to you?"

Then ending the chapter with. "I hate you. I'm sore in places I didn't even know I had. That one guy who gave me a facial, it got in my EYE! Have you ever had cum in your eye before? It fucking burns." a disembodied penis appears before her and shoots a load directly in her eye

"See that's what happens when you get lippy with me. Now say you're sorry or I'll write you into my Godzilla fanfic as somebody who gets stepped on."

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

If you don't get to work on it soon I might just steal it from you. I really like the idea, especially if you start the story off like that. I think that I would begin and end each chapter with the char and the author conversing.

Like the charachter reading the chapter heading and summary and saying. "This is going to suck. You're going to make me do what?! What did I ever do to you?"

Then ending the chapter with. "I hate you. I'm sore in places I didn't even know I had. That one guy who gave me a facial, it got in my EYE! Have you ever had cum in your eye before? It fucking burns." a disembodied penis appears before her and shoots a load directly in her eye

"See that's what happens when you get lippy with me. Now say you're sorry or I'll write you into my Godzilla fanfic as somebody who gets stepped on."

It might well be a good chain story. I might do it that way, with my slave doing it too.
I can just picture your contribution now. LMAO.

 

[Sean Renaud]

A chain story sounds like a great idea. Then I won't feel like I straight robbed somebody. Yeah my chapter would be hilarious if I could get it to flow properly. I might even have a little midpoint commentary.

"You've got to be kidding? One guy in my ass and another in my cunt. Look up here at this line here. I was an anal virgin ten minutes ago and now you are going to put me in a DP! Right. I hope all you male readers out there get off on this, and remember I'm acting. It hurts. A lot. I'm only moaning so you guys can get off." Takes a deep breath lets her head hang.

"Quit your bitchin and go get gang banged. Or else." Chuck Norris appears beside her crouched and ready to attack "I'll do it, you know I will."

Her eyes widen in fear. "Ok ok I'll be good!" Takes a deep breath and dives back into the story where she belongs.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

A chain story sounds like a great idea. Then I won't feel like I straight robbed somebody. Yeah my chapter would be hilarious if I could get it to flow properly. I might even have a little midpoint commentary.

"You've got to be kidding? One guy in my ass and another in my cunt. Look up here at this line here. I was an anal virgin ten minutes ago and now you are going to put me in a DP! Right. I hope all you male readers out there get off on this, and remember I'm acting. It hurts. A lot. I'm only moaning so you guys can get off." Takes a deep breath lets her head hang.

"Quit your bitchin and go get gang banged. Or else." Chuck Norris appears beside her crouched and ready to attack "I'll do it, you know I will."

Her eyes widen in fear. "Ok ok I'll be good!" Takes a deep breath and dives back into the story where she belongs.

THAT line is a classic! Yeah, make sure to include that somewhere!

 

[Sean Renaud]

What part? And thank you I respond abnormaly well to flattery.

 

[BedtimeStories77]

Thanks.

Sure thing.

 

[BedtimeStories77]

"You've got to be kidding? One guy in my ass and another in my cunt. Look up here at this line here. I was an anal virgin ten minutes ago and now you are going to put me in a DP! Right. I hope all you male readers out there get off on this, and remember I'm acting. It hurts. A lot. I'm only moaning so you guys can get off." Takes a deep breath lets her head hang.

ROFL

 

[Sean Renaud]

I got Hallowed to respond. I must have done something right. Now all I need is Bi and Sir to acknowledge my existance and I'll be elite. So I must go and work on this idea a little more.

 

[BedtimeStories77]

I got Hallowed to respond. I must have done something right. Now all I need is Bi and Sir to acknowledge my existance and I'll be elite. So I must go and work on this idea a little more.

Awww... *giggles*