Literotica need a disapprove button,

[JohnEngelman]

You're a sociopath with rage issues and a suicidal self-loathing that you transfer to imagined oppressors such as the Jewish people who are currently defending themselves from other sociopaths like yourself who live in Gaza.

I have reported Philthy_Phil several times. Let's keep it up, and we can get that thing thrown out of here.

 

[Baztrachian]

I have reported Philthy_Phil several times. Let's keep it up, and we can get that thing thrown out of here.

I have not reported Phil to the Literotica moderation team.

I have reported him to the Anti Defamation League, the Jewish Defense League, and the Southern Poverty Law Center.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

That is something black criminals write on walls to intimidate their victims.

Maybe I'm a black criminal, ya faggot.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

You're a sociopath with rage issues and a suicidal self-loathing that you transfer to imagined oppressors such as the Jewish people who are currently defending themselves from other sociopaths like yourself who live in Gaza.

I know I already said this, but you're an idiot.

Facts.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

I have not reported Phil to the Literotica moderation team.

I have reported him to the Anti Defamation League, the Jewish Defense League, and the Southern Poverty Law Center.

"Philthy Phil doesn't celebrate murdering innocent civilians so I'm going to report him!"

LMAO.

You're an idiot.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

I have reported Philthy_Phil several times. Let's keep it up, and we can get that thing thrown out of here.

All you blood thirsty, genocide loving Jews sure are angry. Please don't kill my family.

 

[DraggonStone]

This gets my vote:

 

[JohnEngelman]

She should stop being a MAGAt for Israel's genocide.

The Israelis have the right to do what they need to do to survive in a hostile neighborhood.

 

[JohnEngelman]

There should be a shut the fuck up faggot button for when blood thirsty Jews defend the genocide they are partaking in.

It is not genocide. It is self defense. The Israelis do not threaten the Arab world. In 1948 and 1967 the Arab world threatened Israel.

 

[JohnEngelman]

All you blood thirsty, genocide loving Jews sure are angry. Please don't kill my family.

I like being mistaken for a Jew. Thank you.

 

[JohnEngelman]

You've been over that with several of us, including me, many times over. We all know the logical acrobatics you put yourself through to convince yourself you're not a racist, and you know no one else buys it.

I do not care if anyone calls me a racist or not, but I want to know what I am being accused of. Calling someone a racist is intended as an insult. It is not intended to advance a discussion. Charles Murray, Jared Taylor, and Professors Arthur Jensen, Richard Herrnstein, and J. Philippe Rushton have been called racists by those who tried to silence them because they could not refute their arguments.

In 1999 President Bill Clinton, who I voted for in 1992 and 1996. called for "a dialogue on race." I want that dialogue, but I want it to be held at the top of this pyramid, not at the bottom. Let's keep name calling and insults out of it.

 

[JohnEngelman]

I have reported Philthy_Phil several times. Let's keep it up, and we can get that thing thrown out of here.

Philthy Phil, I apologize for calling you a "thing."

That was out of character of me.

 

[YDB95]

I do not care if anyone calls me a racist or not, but I want to know what I am being accused of. Calling someone a racist is intended as an insult. It is not intended to advance a discussion.

Correct. I don't see any point in advancing a discussion with someone who buys Charles Murray's horseshit.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Correct. I don't see any point in advancing a discussion with someone who buys Charles Murray's horseshit.

Charles Murray carefully documents his assertions. What has he said that is not true?

 

[JohnEngelman]

Correct. I don't see any point in advancing a discussion with someone who buys Charles Murray's horseshit.

Then why did you mention me at all?

 

[YDB95]

Charles Murray carefully documents his assertions. What has he said that is not true?

We've been over that a hundred times before. There have literally been entire books written that debunk his arguments. You didn't listen then, you won't listen now.

 

[JohnEngelman]

We've been over that a hundred times before. There have literally been entire books written that debunk his arguments. You didn't listen then, you won't listen now.

Charles Murray has often been denounced. He has never been disproved. Explain in your own words one or two assertions he made that are not true.

 

[Rightguide]

so that I can vote down those who criticize Jews, Israel, and BrightShinyGirl.

You need no such button. You frame your opposition effectively enough.

 

[YDB95]

Charles Murray has often been denounced. He has never been disproved.

According to you, that is. Which means nothing beyond your own point of view.

Explain in your own words one or two assertions he made that are not true.

1. He treats genetic determination an heritability as one and the same. They aren't. IQ is heritable but not genetically determined.
2. He argues that IQ predicts poverty better than socioeconomic status does. The numbers he uses to back that up ignore the impact of education and family background, among other things.
That's two, John.

 

[JohnEngelman]

According to you, that is. Which means nothing beyond your own point of view.

1. He treats genetic determination an heritability as one and the same. They aren't. IQ is heritable but not genetically determined.
2. He argues that IQ predicts poverty better than socioeconomic status does. The numbers he uses to back that up ignore the impact of education and family background, among other things.
That's two, John.

AI Overview

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQSKCXgYB-nIx_mzIm1mtJF0Qmv1RPwM2sqDuAA0wW9ZWAxlB3fuW8ssyKy&s
Genetics account for a significant portion of IQ differences, with estimates ranging from 40% to 80%, and this influence increases with age. Studies show heritability is around 20% in infancy and can rise to approximately 80% in adulthood.

https://www.google.com/search?q="IQ...a4B8oDwgcHMC4xLjUuMcgHKg&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

 

[YDB95]

AI Overview

https://encrypted-tbn0.***********/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQSKCXgYB-nIx_mzIm1mtJF0Qmv1RPwM2sqDuAA0wW9ZWAxlB3fuW8ssyKy&s
Genetics account for a significant portion of IQ differences, with estimates ranging from 40% to 80%, and this influence increases with age. Studies show heritability is around 20% in infancy and can rise to approximately 80% in adulthood.

https://www.google.com/search?q="IQ+genes"+++BBC&sca_esv=12883a89ad8c56c9&ei=6oEzae_uLLWtw8cPkqOgmAg&ved=0ahUKEwjvi4CJ46eRAxW11vACHZIRCIMQ4dUDCBE&uact=5&oq="IQ+genes"+++BBC&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiECJJUSBnZW5lcyIgKyBCQkMyBRAhGKABMgUQIRigATIFECEYoAEyBRAhGKABMgUQIRigAUj1LFCKCFi2HnABeAGQAQCYAUigAZIDqgEBNrgBA8gBAPgBAZgCB6AC0gPCAgoQABhHGNYEGLADwgIFEAAYgATCAgYQABgWGB7CAgsQABiABBiKBRiGA8ICCBAAGIAEGKIEwgIFEAAY7wWYAwCIBgGQBgiSBwE3oAfHG7IHATa4B8oDwgcHMC4xLjUuMcgHKg&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Lest anyone missed it, note that he asked me to post my objections in my own words, and when I did, he responded with an AI overview. Just sayin'.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Lest anyone missed it, note that he asked me to post my objections in my own words, and when I did, he responded with an AI overview. Just sayin'.

Studies of identical twins raised apart lent further credence to the importance of genes, rather than environment to shape intelligence.

The failure of Head Start and No Child Left Behind contribute even more evidence.

 

[YDB95]

Studies of identical twins raised apart lent further credence to the importance of genes, rather than environment to shape intelligence.

The failure of Head Start and No Child Left Behind contribute even more evidence.

First of all, this is all beside the point. You asked me to explain in my own words what Murray got wrong, and then you broke your own rule in your response.
Secondly, the identical twins example is essentially anecdotal.
Third, who says Head Start failed? To the extent that it hasn't been as successful as it could have been, that can be at least partially - perhaps entirely - chalked up to decades of austere economic policy where the cruelty is the point.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Brookings

Does Head Start work? The debate over the Head Start Impact Study, explained​

Lauren Bauer​

June 14, 2019

In 2005, the first report about the Head Start Impact Study found that one year of Head Start improved cognitive skills, but the size of the effects was small. While this first report affirmed Head Start’s impact on school readiness, the final HHS report published in 2010 showed that by the end of first grade, the effects mostly faded out. According to the 2012 HHS report on third grade follow-up, by the end of primary school there was no longer a discernible impact of Head Start.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/...e-over-the-head-start-impact-study-explained/

People approach Head Start with the will to believe in it. I quote the Brookings Institute because it is a liberal think tank and advocacy organization.

 

[JohnEngelman]

National Library of Medicine

More than fifty years later, Head Start is one of the most popular of the War on Poverty’s programs, serving more than 1 million children at a cost of $10 billion in 2019.1 Unlike more expensive, small-scale “model” programs such as Perry Preschool and Abecedarian, Head Start’s architects prioritized widespread access, calculating that a massive preschool expansion would maximize its poverty-fighting (and political) benefits. Skepticism about the quality of this large-scale preschool program coupled with difficulties in evaluation have generated controversy over its short-term benefits for decades (Currie 2001, Duncan and Magnuson 2013, Westinghouse Learning Corporation 1969). Convincing evidence regarding Head Start’s long-term effects has remained even more elusive, thanks to the lack of program randomization in its early years, small sample sizes of longitudinal surveys, and the difficulty of measuring adults’ access to Head Start decades ago. Consequently, the best estimates of Head Start’s long-term effects are limited by lingering concerns about endogeneity (sibling comparison designs, Currie and Thomas 1995; Garces, Thomas, and Currie 2002; Deming 2009) and imprecision (due to measurement error in funding and access, Ludwig and Miller 2007, and small sample sizes, Carneiro and Ginja 2014). Whether Head Start achieved its goal of increasing life opportunities for children remains an open question.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9005064/