Lit Conformity

[sr71plt]

Coming from the person who claims to be an authority on everything here, I find this statement hypocritical.

Pot/kettle.

I don't weigh in as "the only opinion in the house" on half the topics that you do here.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

It is rather smokey and that biker gang over there doesn't look very friendly.

Never met a biker who aint a fuggin SIDEWALK COMMANDO. There are no smart ones, and theyre easy to fuck.

At the shipyard one time we wuz repairing a lifeboat. The biker was above me inside the boat. He was a piece o shit. My job was to drill a rivet hole thru the bottom, and the biker would put the rivet thru the hole. So I figgered out where his foot was and drilled a hole thru his foot. OMG I'M SO SORRY YOU BIKER PUKE. He lost 3 days work.

People cant kick your ass with holes in their feet dumping lotsa blood.

 

[CyranoJ]

So... just to recap. JBJ has worked out that people vote for stuff they like. And they don't recognize his genius because it's, like, in-your-face and stuff and totally tells it like it is and they're not "comfortable."

Wow. That's pretty profound. Somebody get this man a Pulitzer right now, let's not even wait for the next "niggerniggernigger" rant.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

So... just to recap. JBJ has worked out that people vote for stuff they like. And they don't recognize his genius because it's, like, in-your-face and stuff and totally tells it like it is and they're not "comfortable."

Wow. That's pretty profound. Somebody get this man a Pulitzer right now, let's not even wait for the next "niggerniggernigger" rant.

My niggerniggernigger story inspired by you is going in Gay Male or Romance after you kiss my lovely white ass.

 

[CyranoJ]

I mean really, I'm eagerly awaiting the next key discovery.

JAMESBJOHNSON works out where babies come from... and it's not storks!
JAMESBJOHNSON reveals that menfolk masturbate by rubbing their pee-pees up and down!
JAMESBJOHNSON on how to get the most out of your meth pipe (a.k.a. "Suck Don't Blow, My Journey")!
JAMESBJOHNSON on how nigger nigger to nigger your nigger nigger nigger nigger (the next leap forward in race relations)!

You could do a whole series, man, this shit practically writes itself.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I mean really, I'm eagerly awaiting the next key discovery.

JAMESBJOHNSON works out where babies come from... and it's not storks!
JAMESBJOHNSON reveals that menfolk masturbate by rubbing their pee-pees up and down!
JAMESBJOHNSON on how to get the most out of your meth pipe (a.k.a. "Suck Don't Blow, My Journey")!
JAMESBJOHNSON on how nigger nigger to nigger your nigger nigger nigger nigger (the next leap forward in race relations)!

You could do a whole series, man, this shit practically writes itself.

I invented the process for making white men outta niggers. That's my real genius.

I'll have you listening to Barry Manilow within a month.

Youll demand surgery to become Johnny Mathis.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

johnny before I made him barry manilow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd3pDM2f6Y8

after!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9SSyMN75wY

amazing!

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqxkhKf0yaI

was marvin gaye and tammy before my miracle Negro Cure

 

[lovecraft68]

JBJ is living proof of the Pavlov's dog theory.

He rings the bell and you people answer whether you initially want to or not.

Love him or hate him James adds life to this place

 

[CyranoJ]

I assume the OP is asking for more suggestions, so here they are:

JAMESBJOHNSON finally discovers soap, revolutionizes world hygiene!
JAMESBJOHNSON with a health and safety warning: those penis enlargement pills they sell you in the E-mail DON'T WORK.
JAMESBJOHNSON wonders why they don't make the whole plane out of that stuff they use to make the black box? That's what a genius would do!
JAMESBJOHNSON compiles his best imaginary fights!

 

[CyranoJ]

He rings the bell and you people answer whether you initially want to or not.

Meh, he's easy to ignore most of the time. I just finally glimpsed this thread and couldn't believe nobody'd given him at least a little bit of shit about how moronic and banal its premise was.

Love him or hate him James adds life to this place

Life comes in many forms, to be sure.

 

[GoldenCojones]

I used to equate stroke with length....2k story and fucking in the second paragraph. Then I realized strokers can be long stories its just there is little characterization and tons of sex and its just lust and nothing behind it.

I write some that are like that some Milf cougar/cub stories, but even they have a back ground and some motivation.

For me pure stroke is as I said pure male fantasy. A guy surrounded by women who lose their dignity and their minds and drop to their knees at the thought of cock.
Its idiotic, its demeaning and its misogynistic and it doesn't take a whole lot of skill to write it as long as you can write a sex scene you're good. Love, depth conflict, character development, check them at the door.

But a lot of people enjoy them, they are one handed quick get offs and this is a porn site. I don;t claim to write masterpieces or anything ground breaking, but I make the effort to have a reason for the sex and do a lot of slow burns because to me-and another faction of readers-that makes a story hotter. Its more fun to get the girl you have chased for months years than it is the one every guy gets.

Well, I write porn. I read porn. I like porn. But even porn can have a story behind it. I don't think I agree with your definition of a stroke story. IMHO A stroke story is one you read while, well, stroking I hope I write stroke stories. It kinda turns me on thinking that people are turned on by reading what I write.

If I bring a little pleasure, even if it is self-inflicted, into the life of one pimplefaced socially awkward geek then I have made the world a better place. That thought makes me smile.

 

[lovecraft68]

Well, I write porn. I read porn. I like porn. But even porn can have a story behind it. I don't think I agree with your definition of a stroke story. IMHO A stroke story is one you read while, well, stroking I hope I write stroke stories. It kinda turns me on thinking that people are turned on by reading what I write.

If I bring a little pleasure, even if it is self-inflicted, into the life of one pimplefaced socially awkward geek then I have made the world a better place. That thought makes me smile.

The stories I refer to and think of as stroke have no story, in fact I really equate them with scenes.

For example. Story opens "Mary" is on the couch in a little robe playing with herself(because that's all women do you know) and the bell rings...its the UPS driver, she asks him to bring the package in because its so big (get it, big package nyuk, nyuk, nyuk)

Next thing you know Mary is on her knees his cock in her mouth then they are both naked they go around the world, she take a big load down her throat(and cums while doing it just from doing it)

he says thanks ma'am and leaves.

That's stroke and to me its a scene there's no story there.

Now throw in just a little bit of why Mary is horny, is she divorced and its been awhile, is hubby neglecting her?

Why would she just screw a delivery guy? Again divorced and pent up to the point she figures screw it? Hubby cheated and she is getting even? Maybe she was always kind of vanilla and decides WTF, why not?

Doesn't have to be great detail, but some type of motivation, some reason other than "I'm horny" a little bit about her...something.

There are stories here that are damn close to my little example, and for my personal taste that is stroke and its not even really a story.

I know...if it has a start a middle and an end its story, but when start is "I'm horny, middle is "let's fuck" and end is "Thanks for the money shot!" Its not one to me.

 

[DesEsseintes]

Voila! and Eureka!

I found the answer.

Your story scores at LIT are populist election results unrelated to anything but what readers prefer to read. The highest scores write the same comforting stuff all the time.

Peggy Noonan spoke of this recently. Of how perfessers and students suppress masterpieces they don't like. Comfort level is the new standard. She says masterpieces are supposed to rock the boat.

Yep - the anaesthetic of familiarity.

'I think we ought to read only the kind of books that wound and stab us. If the book we are reading doesn't wake us up with a blow on the head, what are we reading it for? ...we need the books that affect us like a disaster, that grieve us deeply, like the death of someone we loved more than ourselves, like being banished into forests far from everyone, like a suicide. A book must be the axe for the frozen sea inside us.'

Franz Kafka.

 

[CyranoJ]

'I think we ought to read only the kind of books that wound and stab us. If the book we are reading doesn't wake us up with a blow on the head, what are we reading it for? ...we need the books that affect us like a disaster, that grieve us deeply, like the death of someone we loved more than ourselves, like being banished into forests far from everyone, like a suicide. A book must be the axe for the frozen sea inside us.'

Franz Kafka.

Which puts me in mind of what Freud says to Nietzsche in the Germans play Monopoly.

Of course it's unrealistic to expect that "we" only read the kind of books that "wound" and "stab" and "grieve" us. Those things have their time and place, to be sure; but OTOH we're not obligated to humour every crank who comes along to tell us the herd doesn't appreciate his writing because of its daring unfamiliarity.

 

[lovecraft68]

Yep - the anaesthetic of familiarity.

'I think we ought to read only the kind of books that wound and stab us. If the book we are reading doesn't wake us up with a blow on the head, what are we reading it for? ...we need the books that affect us like a disaster, that grieve us deeply, like the death of someone we loved more than ourselves, like being banished into forests far from everyone, like a suicide. A book must be the axe for the frozen sea inside us.'

Franz Kafka.

Unfortunately these days so many people have so many issues in their lives(and the endless prescription meds our society lives on does not help) that they don't want that blow to the head, they want comfort, they don't want spicy food, they want vanilla ice cream.

And erotica, to me, relies a lot more on 'happy' we want our porn fun and happy, we want sex and lust and sometimes love, its what people come here for. So stab them here and many tend to react badly "If I wanted that I'd watch the damn news"

I've written fun stuff here and dark stuff, the numbers on the fun are far better than the others. The stories where I use a comfortable trope do very well, stories I try to put a new spin on get a lot of mixed results, like they're confused by something different

I truly think of all genres erotica is the one that thrives on same more than any other

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Unfortunately these days so many people have so many issues in their lives(and the endless prescription meds our society lives on does not help) that they don't want that blow to the head, they want comfort, they don't want spicy food, they want vanilla ice cream.

And erotica, to me, relies a lot more on 'happy' we want our porn fun and happy, we want sex and lust and sometimes love, its what people come here for. So stab them here and many tend to react badly "If I wanted that I'd watch the damn news"

I've written fun stuff here and dark stuff, the numbers on the fun are far better than the others. The stories where I use a comfortable trope do very well, stories I try to put a new spin on get a lot of mixed results, like they're confused by something different

I truly think of all genres erotica is the one that thrives on same more than any other

Gladiators and whores are all that matter.

 

[lovecraft68]

Gladiators and whores are all that matter.

and the whore was Glad he ate her....

 

[JKendallDane]

Well, I write porn. I read porn. I like porn. But even porn can have a story behind it. I don't think I agree with your definition of a stroke story. IMHO A stroke story is one you read while, well, stroking I hope I write stroke stories. It kinda turns me on thinking that people are turned on by reading what I write.

If I bring a little pleasure, even if it is self-inflicted, into the life of one pimplefaced socially awkward geek then I have made the world a better place. That thought makes me smile.

I write strokomance, strokodrama, strokoventure, and strokocomedy even. Whether it is a one-off, pure stroker story, or a chapter from one of my series, I can assure you there are two main goals:

(1) That there *IS* a story involved

and

(2) That my readers look like this at some point while enjoying the story...

https://bananasardientes.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/a6e24-4fec998574d8a_original.jpg?w=400&h=300

 

[Katiecat]

That my readers look like this at some point while enjoying the story...

I hope I don't ever look like that if I read your stories -- my husband would be quite shocked and dismayed at the unexpected....um...appendage.

 

[GoldenCojones]

The stories I refer to and think of as stroke have no story, in fact I really equate them with scenes.

For example. Story opens "Mary" is on the couch in a little robe playing with herself(because that's all women do you know) and the bell rings...its the UPS driver, she asks him to bring the package in because its so big (get it, big package nyuk, nyuk, nyuk)

Next thing you know Mary is on her knees his cock in her mouth then they are both naked they go around the world, she take a big load down her throat(and cums while doing it just from doing it)

he says thanks ma'am and leaves.

That's stroke and to me its a scene there's no story there.

Now throw in just a little bit of why Mary is horny, is she divorced and its been awhile, is hubby neglecting her?

Why would she just screw a delivery guy? Again divorced and pent up to the point she figures screw it? Hubby cheated and she is getting even? Maybe she was always kind of vanilla and decides WTF, why not?

Doesn't have to be great detail, but some type of motivation, some reason other than "I'm horny" a little bit about her...something.

There are stories here that are damn close to my little example, and for my personal taste that is stroke and its not even really a story.

I know...if it has a start a middle and an end its story, but when start is "I'm horny, middle is "let's fuck" and end is "Thanks for the money shot!" Its not one to me.

Well you are free to have your definition, but my problem with it is that I could never get more than one or two strokes in before I gave up on the "scene" you describe. The mind is the biggest aphrodisiac there is and the mind needs a story. The story doesn't have to be long, but it does have to have the basic elements of "story." A scene like you describe would never be a "Stroke" story for me because I would never stroke to it