Let's teach our children valgarity!

[Black_Bird]

Let's teach our children vulgarity!

I'm fucking serious! Lets teach them ever cuss word there is in the english langauge, and invent a few new ones just for GPs. Why? Why not? We are so tied up over words; fucking words. Hell, some people still blush at the word "cunt" around here - HERE of all places. They're just words, aren't they? Aren't they?

[edit: Yeah - I'm going to teach spelling. Just after I learn how to spell myself.]

 

[badasschick]

I'll start with grammar and usage.

 

[Black_Bird]

Good. I'll start with spelling.

S.H.I.T.

What does that spell children? Shit! Good!

 

[ksmybuttons]

Usage is very important. If you understand it, you can spell.

Take your valgarity for instance. When I see that I relate it to valgus which is acutally a torqued leg. Now I don't know how I would teach children about twisting someone's leg except through telling them tall tales.

Now, vulgarity reminds me of vulva. I don't think there is a child around who should not be taught about that...the most important part being aware of when it is appropriate.

 

[unclej]

a couple of points blackbird..first, the kids don't need our help learning the bad words. they'll know most of them by the time they are in the 3rd or 4th grade. and because a lot of people don't seem to care any more they'll use them fluently.

second, since they don't need our help teaching them to cuss we might spend a little more time teaching them how to speak properly.

"ya know, like i fucking told him if he was gonna fucking, you know, treat me like a fucking piece of fucking meat he could, like, get another fucking girl friend." an actual conversation that i heard in the club the other night. 22-23 year old girl. beautiful girl. until she opened her mouth.

we had a birthday party for my sister the other night and my neice brought her boyfriend. my sister, my mother and my other neice were there and after i warned the boyfriend three times about his language i finally told him that if he used the word fuck in front of the ladies again he could leave. he shut up but you could tell he didn't think he was doing anything wrong.


don't know if you were kidding or not but i say teach the kids a little respect and how to communicate without all the cussin'.

you may notice that there's a little difference in our ages blackbird so if i just sound like an old fashioned old man then just fuck it.

 

[Saint Peter]

Teach the children to control using the words until the situation calls for it. We have watered down all the good curse words by using them in everyday language and far too often. Fuck.

 

[StondTmplPilot]

Ya know I am guilty of being a habitual cusser, and my parents did everything they could to break me of that when I was young. I dont know why but the words fuck, shit, and many others are an integral part of my vocabulary. But on the other hand, I rarely use words of that sort to insult another person.

 

[ksmybuttons]

My son, in first grade, came home with cocksucker. He had learned the word at school and had no idea of what it meant.

I think it is important to teach children what the words mean and how they can be offensive and when they are appropriate. What they learn from their friends at this age certainly isn't correct.

I don't think my son will use cocksucker again in front of me...

Of course I am the one in the house who calls ham pig butt...

 

[Black_Bird]

Well, let me ask you this; why is it so important to teach our childen *not* to say these words?

 

[unclej]

it's not as important to teach them not to say them as it is to teach them when to say them.

 

[weed]

Imho curse words should be neither taught or hidden. Say what comes naturally but hopefully have enough vocabulary that redundancy of word usage (i.e f this effin thing or effing that f'ed up thing) doesn't leave little meaning in our word choice. A little more creativity should be taught than that. Also language should be appropriate for the situation (i.e. formal vs. casual or intimate), as should the amount of respect a person shows to those they are communicating with.

 

[ksmybuttons]

I think the words need to be taught. So the child knows the correct meaning and then the usage is appropriate.

Like:

"Ah, I need you now. Please fuck me."
or
"Fuck you!"

Two different meanings...

 

[just pet]

Vulgarity is already rampart
Perhaps teaching finesse and style would be more in order




Reserve "fuck" for very special occasions only

 

[YourSweetOne]

First of all....I thought we were talking about kids....as in children....why are us 20 somethings wrapped up in here? Lol

Second of all...dont know what im getting at but I will point out I grew up in a home where there was no swearing of any kind allowed or used. I dont think I suffered because of that. I never came home asking what a word meant. Or trying out bad words I heard in the school yard. I just didnt use them. You can tell when a kid says a word they shouldnt that its bad by the look on thier face. I didnt start to swear with my friends till years after they did. I remember the first time i swore in front of my mom in grade 11. I said my brother was a fucking asshole and since it was meant in anger and passionate feelings of hate I didnt get in trouble. Since then I swear much more around my family and they also swear a lot more now that the baby is allowed to lol. I dont think my family has benefitted any from this bad language.

I think a more important thing to teach is sexuality...since so many swear words are used in refernece to sex. I had a very open home so I didnt need to ask about such raunchey words since I knew the real ones.

But thats all just my opnion. And one im serious about since I already know my home when im married with kids will be as free of curses as possible.

 

[lickerish]

I've got a seriously bad potty mouth.. I really have to work at not using 'shit' or 'fuck' in every other sentence. To me, they're not so much bad words.. so much as sentence fillers, sometimes.

'Course, there's a time and place for anything.

When I cuss.. or someone else cusses, my kids cover their mouths and giggle.. or say "UMMMMM ___ said a bad word!" They know better than to repeat it.. and I didn't teach them that, they just know.

I grew up with 1/2 brothers twice my age.. I've been cussing probably since I started talking. My parents HATED it.. but there was nothing they could do. I touted free speech even as a 6 year old

 

[Black_Bird]

No one has answered my question; Why is it important to teach our children *not* to say these words?

 

[freakygirl]

No one has answered my question; Why is it important to teach our children *not* to say these words?

I taught my kids not to say them because they are kids.. those words are for adult usage. (this is only my opinion). My kids know that if I hear any curse words come out of their mouths.. a bar of soap will be inserted.

*shrugs* I know my 15 year old son cusses.. but I don't want to hear it.

 

[Black_Bird]

I taught my kids not to say them because they are kids.. those words are for adult usage. (this is only my opinion). My kids know that if I hear any curse words come out of their mouths.. a bar of soap will be inserted.

*shrugs* I know my 15 year old son cusses.. but I don't want to hear it.

So, you believe there are something that children just shouldn't say, just because you don't want to hear them say it?

 

[Sillyman]

Ahhh, sweet memories.

First, when I was driving with my baby brother one day, he told me in all seriousness that he thought "Country music is the F word." Why can't Timmy swear? I laughed my ass off.

Secondly, there was his father calling up my mother and demanding to know, "Why did you teach Timmy to say MF?". This was a grown man, on his own phone, talking to another adult, who had to use code speech to talk about the word motherfucker. I believe my mother's response was "Fuck you motherfucker" and then she hung up.

Finally there is my earliest memories of the word gay. I thought it meant retarded, because that was what I picked up from it's use. This is an example of why you need to teach kids what words mean.

 

[freakygirl]

So, you believe there are something that children just shouldn't say, just because you don't want to hear them say it?

ok, i walked into that one. I have no real idea why I don't want to hear them say curse words. I guess it's because how I was raised.

I know my son looks at porn too.. but I don't want to watch him looking at it.. LOL

Does that make any sense? Maybe I don't want to see that my kids are growing up. Maybe it's because society looks down on the curse word usage by children.

I also think kids now adays over use the word fuck. It's not like when I was a kid..

I'm rambling.. and it's because I have no real answer for your question.

 

[Black_Bird]

Heh. I'm trying to get you people to think.

 

[Sillyman]

Little kids swearing sounds ugly. It just does. I don't know why.

 

[lisalove]

Vulgarity has it's place. Especially if you're usually vocabularily- gifted.

I think it's damaging to swear around children or to give them a message it's acceptable because that is desensitizing them to a harshness they should be protected from.

I try to swear in french as much as possible...it's basically against the church (which is always fun), and it sounds more eloquent.

sacre bleu, mon dit colliss, sacrement

 

[freakygirl]

Heh. I'm trying to get you people to think.

You are just fucking with my head.. and to be honest.. my pussy is far more enjoyable for fucking

 

[Black_Bird]

Little kids swearing sounds ugly. It just does. I don't know why.

Sure you do.