Let us turn back the clock, one hundred years

[gotsnowgotslush]

Vote for Trump. and vote for a return to the world of 1916.

No birth control for women.

A woman has no right to refuse sacred sperm.

A woman has no right to avoid a pregnancy that might kill her.

A woman has no right to refuse to give birth to her rapist's fetus.

A woman has no right to a avoid sexually transmitted diseases.

A woman has no right to fight a rape committed by her husband.

A woman has no right to avoid a beating at the hands of her husband.

A woman has no right to vote.


Despite the restrictions and burdens that women had placed on them, women still managed to achieve great goals that are recognized.

"When women don’t see themselves represented in culture, their confidence diminishes. Research on young male and female achievers showed that a woman’s intellectual self-esteem diminishes with every year of higher education she undertakes, because she increasingly studies women’s absence from history."

"If you looked at research isolating race, it would probably be the same."

A vote for Trump, is a vote for the very power that continues to crush you.

 

[Blue]

Sorry, I know his rhetoric on women is ghastly, but out of all the crap he's said his statements on women really are barely a blip on the insanity-radar in comparison to other things.

I'm not saying that it should be dismissed because of that, but it's a comparatively weak attack on his morality.

 

[underguy1]

You are a shill for the warmonger and mass murderer Clinton.

You are a monumental hypocrite.

 

[LadyVer]

Sorry, I know his rhetoric on women is ghastly, but out of all the crap he's said his statements on women really are barely a blip on the insanity-radar in comparison to other things.

I'm not saying that it should be dismissed because of that, but it's a comparatively weak attack on his morality.

Since October 7th, I have been trying to cope with huge amounts of rage and grief, after years of putting things behind me. Things like being pussy grabbed by a trusted friend while asleep, sexually assaulted and beaten up because I said no on a date, grabbed by a billionaire CEO in the workplace who thought I would appreciate a stranger grabbing me. And then I was raped by a man I never imagined would do such a thing. My husband.What I have been experiencing since 10/7 is nothing less than PTSD. I can't take andi-depressants, and even if I could, it takes time to work. I am now on an anti-anxiety med for the first time in my life. What you and others don't get is that women are people and no excuse of boys will be boys, locker rooms, or blips on a screen are going to work anymore. Fuck you.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Since October 7th, I have been trying to cope with huge amounts of rage and grief, after years of putting things behind me. Things like being pussy grabbed by a trusted friend while asleep, sexually assaulted and beaten up because I said no on a date, grabbed by a billionaire CEO in the workplace who thought I would appreciate a stranger grabbing me. And then I was raped by a man I never imagined would do such a thing. My husband.What I have been experiencing since 10/7 is nothing less than PTSD. I can't take andi-depressants, and even if I could, it takes time to work. I am now on an anti-anxiety med for the first time in my life. What you and others don't get is that women are people and no excuse of boys will be boys, locker rooms, or blips on a screen are going to work anymore. Fuck you.

Ah, those anti-anxiety meds don't work worth a damn. Here, take some of these, it will help you get to sleep. Works even better if you wash 'em down with whisky, and yeah, whaddaya know, got some here . . .




I am so going to Hell . . .

 

[KingOrfeo]

You are a shill for the warmonger and mass murderer Clinton.

You are a monumental hypocrite.

If I were a woman, and a pacifist, and believed everything you do about Clinton's warmongering, I would still prefer her to Trump by any and all measures.

 

[LadyVer]

Ah, those anti-anxiety meds don't work worth a damn. Here, take some of these, it will help you get to sleep. Works even better if you wash 'em down with whisky, and yeah, whaddaya know, got some here . . .


I am so going to Hell . . .

I've learned to cut the dose in half. I got my first full night of sleep like night, but I still feel like crap. My doctor didn't help. Unfortunately, he thought it was helpful to bring Bill Clinton into the conversation, and this was while I'm sobbing my guts out over the video and Trump's continued behavior. For the first time in my life, I called a doctor an ass, to his face.

 

[LadyVer]

Ah, those anti-anxiety meds don't work worth a damn. Here, take some of these, it will help you get to sleep. Works even better if you wash 'em down with whisky, and yeah, whaddaya know, got some here . . .


I am so going to Hell . . .

I've learned to cut the dose in half. I got my first full night of sleep like night, but I still feel like crap. My doctor didn't help. Unfortunately, he thought it was helpful to bring Bill Clinton into the conversation, and this was while I'm sobbing my guts out over the video and Trump's continued behavior. For the first time in my life, I called a doctor an ass, to his face.

 

[LadyVer]

Fucked up tablet, and Lit. WTF.

 

[Hypoxia]

A century back, women and n!ggers and sp!cks didn't count, Asians were excluded, raciest dickhead prez Wilson promised neutrality but engineered USA into war, booze was cheap and abundant, and cannabis was legal but only consumed by n!ggers and sp!cks. Many Germans (the largest USA subculture) Anglicized their names because hate propaganda. Those were not the Good Old Days. There are no Good Old Days. The past sucked, big-time.

 

[LadyVer]

A century back, women and n!ggers and sp!cks didn't count, Asians were excluded, raciest dickhead prez Wilson promised neutrality but engineered USA into war, booze was cheap and abundant, and cannabis was legal but only consumed by n!ggers and sp!cks. Many Germans (the largest USA subculture) Anglicized their names because hate propaganda. Those were not the Good Old Days. There are no Good Old Days. The past sucked, big-time.

According to the GOP, women, blacks, Hispanics, and the disabled still don't count. I probably left some groups out, though not intentionally. I'm still trying to figure out exactly what Trump wants to go back to. No 14th or 19th Amendment?

 

[underguy1]

If I were a woman, and a pacifist, and believed everything you do about Clinton's warmongering, I would still prefer her to Trump by any and all measures.

You couldn't possibly know that because you've no idea of what those people living under US bombs and aggression are going through.

To you, they are barely human anyway.

To you, you are the exceptional nation. Like Hitler's Germany you are trained to believe you are the bringers of light to a dark world of savages.

'Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.'

- Voltaire

And you do.

 

[1sickbastard]

.....

 

[1sickbastard]

According to the GOP, women, blacks, Hispanics, and the disabled still don't count. I probably left some groups out, though not intentionally. I'm still trying to figure out exactly what Trump wants to go back to. No 14th or 19th Amendment?

19th. Repealing the 14th would be removing the basis of legal "personhood" for corporations. Besides, repealing the 1964 Civil Rights Act will allow for exclusion of non-whites from the franchise and would be easier than a full-on amendment.

 

[Blue]

Since October 7th, I have been trying to cope with huge amounts of rage and grief, after years of putting things behind me. Things like being pussy grabbed by a trusted friend while asleep, sexually assaulted and beaten up because I said no on a date, grabbed by a billionaire CEO in the workplace who thought I would appreciate a stranger grabbing me. And then I was raped by a man I never imagined would do such a thing. My husband.What I have been experiencing since 10/7 is nothing less than PTSD. I can't take andi-depressants, and even if I could, it takes time to work. I am now on an anti-anxiety med for the first time in my life. What you and others don't get is that women are people and no excuse of boys will be boys, locker rooms, or blips on a screen are going to work anymore. Fuck you.

You've misunderstood. I'm absolutely not in support of Trump, I'm not trying to defend him assaulting women, the "locker room talk" thing is literal rape apologetics and, shockingly, I don't think women should have to experience such things as a tenant of earning a living.

All I'm saying is that if you collectively measure the deplorability of everything he says he'll do (torturing, quote; "Even if it doesn't work". Not abide by the Geneva convention as it's "the problem". Preemptively nuke 'enemy' nations. The punishing women for abortions. Etc) then just picking out a couple of comments about women, which by the way have nothing to do with his own actions (which is why I'm not defending them), don't in my mind do proper justice to just how terrible he is.

 

[Porkwarrior]

Th'd title should be renamed "ELECTION HYPERBOLE OMFG!"

Trump has never sexually assaulted anybody, he's never condoned it. One candidate has defended child predators using her vagina, slut shamed anybody that dared let her husband stick his dick in her, and did her best to the crush the lives of any woman that her husband had state troopers march into his room.

One has an argument against based only misquotes, hyperbole & supposition, the other has a quantifiable track record against specific women and ACTUAL rapes. If you are against RAPE, you need to have your head stuffed really far up your ass to pull a handle for Hillary.

 

[Porkwarrior]

Running to be the first woman president, Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton has taken a stern stand on combating sexual harassment and assault — and has insisted that every accuser who comes forward has “the right to be believed.”

But Mrs. Clinton took a very different approach herself 25 years ago as the wife of then-Gov. Bill Clinton, leading the effort to discredit women who came forward with their own stories of harassment or assault by her husband.

Campaign narratives written by reporters detailed how she honchoed the campaign team that handled “bimbo eruptions,” digging up personal papers and official records that could be used to undercut the stories told by a series of women. One top aide later recounted Mrs. Clinton’s intent to “destroy” the story of one accuser, while former adviser Dick Morris said Mrs. Clinton engaged in “blackmail” to try to force women to recant their stories.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jan/14/hillary-clinton-haunted-by-efforts-to-destroy-bill/

https://youtu.be/PvR62T1gO0w
(I do admire her chameleon-like accent morphing, 05:00 damn!)

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

I was stunned, when I was made to understand what the sculptures represented.

Four gleaming globes.

Reducing a female human being to the status of a collection of inanimate objects.

Trump has gone one further.

Reducing a woman to the status of a bowling ball.

It brings to mind the people that request permission to put their hands on a woman's pregnancy "bump."

You would not expect a stranger to place their hands on a woman's pregnancy bump, out of nowhere.

People are curious and inquisitive, and they want to explore. They respect that it is her body and her pregnancy.

Trump once said, "You have to treat (women) them like shit."

Trump boasted about pouring a bottle of wine down a woman's back.

Trump tales always hide more than they reveal.

Trump lacked balls, and did not want to take responsibility for his act.

Trump avoided confrontation and blame by sneaking up and pouring a glass of wine on her back.

Trump did this because she was a journalist that wrote about Trump.

Trump did not like the story, and its was his revenge.

Trump would consider it an assault if someone tried to touch him, without his permission.

Why is Trump allowed to sexually abuse a woman that he does not know ?

Trump claims privilege as a "star."

Every woman needs a body guard, to protect her from white male privilege ?

A woman is not granted equal protection, under the law ?

If a woman slaps Trump in the face, for his sexual assault, she will be in trouble with the law.

A slap is physical assault.

He escapes the penalty for committing theft.

Male sexual violence takes away more than the loss of protection of private space and personal boundaries.

It is the tactic of cowardly bully.

She would never accept him as her equal.

He reduces her down to the status of a victim.

She would never grant him permission.

He robs her of something of higher value.

His sexual violence is his mission of revenge. He is full of rage, that even after his sexual assault, that she will remain a person that will always have higher status, and higher standing, and receive higher regard.

He will able to sneer and jeer, that she is less than he is.
This is the attitude of the rapist.
Robbing, and smirking about a victory, that is no victory.
It as not won honorably, fairly, or in a respectable way.

He will always be a low creature, that people avoid.

He is willing to besmirch, unfairly.

 

[KingOrfeo]

To you, you are the exceptional nation.

I flatly reject American exceptionalism. We're a great nation, but we ain't all that special, not different-in-kind from other nations, we have merely had a lot of historical good luck. And like every great nation we have great crimes and sins and blunders to our collective account as well as great achievements. Is it not so?

But that's got nothing to do with this. Whatever America is, Clinton is better for America -- and for the world -- than Trump, because she might be a hawk, but not in a crazy-stupid-unpredictable way like Trump. Bernie would be better still, but it is what it is.

 

[LadyVer]

19th. Repealing the 14th would be removing the basis of legal "personhood" for corporations. Besides, repealing the 1964 Civil Rights Act will allow for exclusion of non-whites from the franchise and would be easier than a full-on amendment.

"The 14th Amendment to the Constitution was ratified on July 9, 1868, and granted citizenship to “all persons born or naturalized in the United States,” which included former slaves recently freed. In addition, it forbids states from denying any person "life, liberty or property, without due process of law" or to "deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” By directly mentioning the role of the states, the 14th Amendment greatly expanded the protection of civil rights to all Americans and is cited in more litigation than any other amendment." (Library of Congress).

I'm confused over your statement about the 14th Amendment.

 

[LadyVer]

You've misunderstood. I'm absolutely not in support of Trump, I'm not trying to defend him assaulting women, the "locker room talk" thing is literal rape apologetics and, shockingly, I don't think women should have to experience such things as a tenant of earning a living.

All I'm saying is that if you collectively measure the deplorability of everything he says he'll do (torturing, quote; "Even if it doesn't work". Not abide by the Geneva convention as it's "the problem". Preemptively nuke 'enemy' nations. The punishing women for abortions. Etc) then just picking out a couple of comments about women, which by the way have nothing to do with his own actions (which is why I'm not defending them), don't in my mind do proper justice to just how terrible he is.

I agree with most of what you said. The thing is, apparently how Trump's statements and behavior for over the last week could not be an important issue because it's about one group, when it's that group that has been dealing with the aftermath, is naive and shows a lack of understanding. Up until October 7, Trump's obnoxious and inflammatory behavior was acceptable to most conservatives and evangelicals, because he was going to save them from the godless progressives (Franklin Graham's favorite term). Some of them still think Trump is going to. I've talked to some of these people who are still voting for Trump. What's even weirder is how they justify it. Yeah, he isn't someone they would live next door to, but he's going to make America great again.

And it comes down to who is Trump going to make America great again for? Because it isn't the disabled, women, African Americans, Gold Star parents, the GOP, the LGBT folks. He has his base believing he will get rid of Roe vs. Wade,get rid of NATO, the UN, the EPA (among other international and domestic agencies), and this is a guy who preaches law and order, while promising his base he will get Hillary locked up because she's the Devil, she's evil, and she should be locked up for her crimes.

The rule of law which afforded Hillary the right to defend herself for Benghazi, and all the other cases she's been investigated for, proved there was jack shit to lock her up for. This reminds me of the French Revolution. When Trump loses, which he will, we are left with his delusional base who believed his lies and who will still want Hillary's blood. And the GOP will still be going along with it to appease their base, because they've proven to be spineless and balless. They have proven their family values platform is one gigantic crock of shit. And after this hell of an election cycle, we're still going to keep hearing about how godless liberals are, which is the pot calling the kettle. This is not going to end well.

 

[Tigersman]

You are a shill for the warmonger and mass murderer Clinton.

You are a monumental hypocrite.

And you would rather have Putin's buddy in the White House, chasing all the female workers as Russian missiles rain down on us.

 

[Hard_Rom]

And you would rather have Putin's buddy in the White House, chasing all the female workers as Russian missiles rain down on us.

It claims to be in New Zealand so what does it care.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

"...just moments after FiveThirtyEight's Nate Silver released a map that projected a Trump landslide if only men voted — and a Clinton landslide if only women voted — #repealthe19th was trending on Twitter."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifes...amendment-balancing-1013-20161013-column.html


https://www.buzzfeed.com/stephaniemcneal/repeal-the-19th?utm_term=.dc7gkkN3V#.amLgooM40


http://www.latimes.com/nation/polit...tweet-repealthe19th-1476299001-htmlstory.html

gsgs comment-

Hostile towards women, much ?


Susan Faludi On The Misogyny Of The Presidential Election

October 14, 2016


This is the culmination of a gender drama that goes back at least 20 years in which so-called angry white men... were manipulated by the Right into believing that their problems could be put at the doorstep of minorities and women, and in particular, women as embodied by Hillary Clinton,” said Faludi.

She went on to predict that Trump’s brand of misogyny will persist past the election, regardless of the outcome. According to Faludi, the negative emotion stirred in Trump supporters will be redirected after November 8.

“None of this going away,” said Faludi. “Presuming Hillary is elected... all of this rage will be turned on her. The whole attack machine is not exactly going to fold up its tent.”

http://news.wgbh.org/2016/10/14/local-news/susan-faludi-misogyny-presidential-election

gsgs comment-

A woman asks why Republicans are suddenly expressing outrage over Trump's remarks.

Republicans expressed shock, when they heard Trump boasting about sexual assaults.

She points to the fact that getting unwanted sexual contacts was not taken seriously by the law, in the recent past.

What I would like to point out, is rape is still not taken seriously by the law.
In cases of proven rape with no doubt and a "perfect victim," the victim must stand by and watch the law fail her. They take the rapist's future seriously. The victim's future is not a concern.

"Copping a feel, could mean many actions. Grab a stranger and squeeze her buttocks. Grab her breast. Grab between her legs. Go against her wishes, when kissing a girl.

It has escalated to drugging women and raping them.

"What Pence and Ryan and McConnell, so self-righteously appalled by this image of Trump feeling empowered to grab a woman in her most private part, don’t seem to realize is that they do so in legislatures every day."

They effectively advocate forced childbirth by impeding women’s access to birth control, morning-after pills, and safe, legal abortion. They comprise the health and lives of young low-income women by banning funding to Planned Parenthood and laboring to close down clinics, depriving these young women of all reproductive health and preventive cancer care. They vote against equal pay for equal work, paid maternity leave and paid sick leave. While they criticize Trump for his sense of entitlement to the bodies of women, they have the same sense of entitlement. They refuse to respect women’s moral authority, spiritual beliefs or choices—to work or not work, to combine motherhood and career, to choose or reject motherhood, to carry a pregnancy to term, or not.

They may not grab “pussy” the way Trump says he can, but make no mistake: they grab it, without apology. That, too, is criminal. When will lawmakers taking these liberties with women’s bodies shock us, too?

gsgs comment-

The point of attacks on fertility control is to destroy woman's autonomy.
What is a more direct attack on autonomy, than removing her legal right to be heard through a vote ?


http://msmagazine.com/blog/2016/10/11/sudden-outrage-gop/

Shut the fuck up, men are talking!

*sigh*

Men are exited by strong, intelligent women.
Boys rape virgins.

 

[1sickbastard]

"The 14th Amendment to the Constitution was ratified on July 9, 1868, and granted citizenship to “all persons born or naturalized in the United States,” which included former slaves recently freed. In addition, it forbids states from denying any person "life, liberty or property, without due process of law" or to "deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” By directly mentioning the role of the states, the 14th Amendment greatly expanded the protection of civil rights to all Americans and is cited in more litigation than any other amendment." (Library of Congress).

I'm confused over your statement about the 14th Amendment.

It was something I read in Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States" which claimed that the 14th Amendment has been used more often to defend the rights and privileges of Corporations than is has the rights and liberties of individual citizens, particularly minorities.

On reflection I'm not sure that claim can be substantiated unless one is either a Constitutional lawyer or a lay-person who is extraordinarily familiar with the case law. Frankly, I'm not that motivated to read through several hundreds of pages of decisions pertaining to the 14th amendment to support that claim, so I'll take the easy way out and retract.