Let me get this right

[Todd]

Capital punishment is wrong for a hardened criminal/murder.

Solitary is wrong for a hardened criminal/murder.

Maximum Security is wrong for a hardened criminal/murder.

Minimum Security is wrong for a hardened criminal/murder.

So what exactly do we do with them? Elect them to government?
Seriously though. All of the above statements have been made by democrats and republicans both on this board in the last 4-6 months.

So what exactly is the politically correct means to punicsh hardened crimnals/murders?

 

[Svedish_Chef]

So what exactly is the politically correct means to punicsh hardened crimnals/murders?

Lock them in a room with a born again christian.

 

[Todd]

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Lock them in a room with a born again christian.

That would be rewarding the Democrats if we did that

 

[ranajja]

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Lock them in a room with a born again christian.

Chef, truer words were never spoken--let me at 'em!

 

[unusuallyconfused]

Thats a great question Todd. I would like to know what the liberals idea of punishment for a murderer would be.

 

[lavender]

 

[Thomas Paine]

Let me get this right

Now there's a novel idea...

 

[Closet Desire]

Hmmmm...

...death or being locked in a room with a BAC?

Mmmmm...shoot me...please.

 

[unusuallyconfused]

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Now there's a novel idea...

What is your response, Thomas. I would be curious as to what to do with repeated evil wicked people who murder and have no conscious about doing it. What is your solution?

 

[Sparky Kronkite]

So what exactly is the politically correct means to punicsh hardened crimnals/murders

We can always eat'em.

 

[Blackbich]

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Damn double post!!

 

[Blackbich]

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Lock them in a room with a born again christian.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha...

Funny, Svedish Chef.

I don't have any solutions for you, Todd. There's NO PC way to deal with the situation. You can't please everyone.

I think we should put the hardened criminals, gangbangers and KKK/skinheads on an island together. We could occassionally fly over and drop food to make sure they aren't starving (don't want to be accused of cruelty) and call it a day! They aren't being put to death, they aren't hurting other people except for other scumbags AND they aren't being kept in a small cell or kept in segregation.

When I'm elected president - that's what I'll put into effect .

 

[Vi]

Togetherness

What if they were put in a room together, given crude weapons and left to figure it out amongst themselves? The reward would be that the last one standing would get first chance at the next "Timmy" to get sentanced.

 

[WriterDom]

Make them earn a living to pay restitution. Transport them to a large public venue like a subway. Design a urinal that would fit around their face somehow and tape their mouth's shut so they couldn't spit or talk and charge people 2$ to piss on them.

 

[Guru]

There are some very cruel punishments listed above. Don't forget that our "Justice" system is not perfect, and imprisons a large number of people who have not committed any crime. The proof is the large number of "criminals" who have been exonerated from a rape conviction after DNA testing either found the real culprit or demonstrated that they could not have committed the crime. Also, don't forget the ridiculous drug war, fought against average Americans, that imprisons people guilty of nothing more than putting a substance into their own bodies.

So, before you sentence every "criminal" to effective death... remember that it could be YOU that is mistakenly convicted of some heinous crime...

 

[Problem Child]

Why don't we just send them to France?

 

[Thomas Paine]

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What is your response, Thomas. I would be curious as to what to do with repeated evil wicked people who murder and have no conscious about doing it. What is your solution?

Life in prison without the possibility of parole.

I am uncomfortable with the legal and moral aspects of the death penalty and much of the other silly stuff being suggested is constitutionally prohibited as cruel and unusual punishment. If you put away unrepentant, vicious criminals for life, then two of three purposes of the American penal system are well-served -- punishment and protection of society.

 

[unusuallyconfused]

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Life in prison without the possibility of parole.

I am uncomfortable with the legal and moral aspects of the death penalty and much of the other silly stuff being suggested is constitutionally prohibited as cruel and unusual punishment. If you put away unrepentant, vicious criminals for life, then two of three purposes of the American penal system are well-served -- punishment and protection of society.

Actually, this not meant to be smart assed whatsoever.....I am curious why it would be societies duty to provide food, clothing, shelter, entertainment, etc...........to some of the most unrepentant criminals. I'm talking the worst of the worst. Definately just evil people. Why should society have to pay for this person who callously with remorse hurt lets say innocent children by the dozens. Why do they deserve this? I would very much like to hear your perspective.

 

[Guest]

Capital punishment is wrong for a hardened criminal/murder.

Solitary is wrong for a hardened criminal/murder.

Maximum Security is wrong for a hardened criminal/murder.

Minimum Security is wrong for a hardened criminal/murder.

Who says all liberals believe the above to be true? Hmmm? I may be NO democrat, but I am certainly liberal AND I am 100% FOR An eye for an eye! I believe that all convicted murderers should fry. Simple as that.

 

[Thomas Paine]

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Actually, this not meant to be smart assed whatsoever.....I am curious why it would be societies duty to provide food, clothing, shelter, entertainment, etc...........to some of the most unrepentant criminals. I'm talking the worst of the worst. Definately just evil people. Why should society have to pay for this person who callously with remorse hurt lets say innocent children by the dozens. Why do they deserve this? I would very much like to hear your perspective.

Not taken to be smart-assed at all. It IS possible to have reasonable disagreements...

In regard to your question, what else are you going to do with them? It's just part of the cost of maintaining a civilized society. The cost issue is somewhat of a red herring because in most cases, it ends up costing more to put someone to death, what with the usual string of appeals, public defenders, etc., than it does to keep them in prison. Unless we're willing to adopt the Afghanistan justice model, life imprisonment seems like the only reasonable option.

Regardless of the opinions of people who throw out rash generalizations without regard for facts (mentioning no names, of course) prison is not exactly a lush life, nor should it be. We shouldn't confuse the Federal pens for white-collar crime with your typical joint. I don't think anybody who commits the kind of crimes you describe deserves anything other than basic sustenance in confinement and I don't think they get much more than that.

Maybe if we stopped filling up prisons with minor drug offenders, we could get penal costs in line and not worry about keeping prisoners locked up instead of playing God with them. Think about whether you could be the one who pulls the switch or pushes the button. I couldn't...

 

[Guest]

Spark...

We can always eat'em.

You don't want to do that! They'll give you bad gas!











Oh, wait. You'd prolly like that. Nevermind. Carry on.

 

[unusuallyconfused]

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Maybe if we stopped filling up prisons with minor drug offenders, we could get penal costs in line and not worry about keeping prisoners locked up instead of playing God with them. Think about whether you could be the one who pulls the switch or pushes the button. I couldn't...

I will agree with you on minor drug offenses. I am very LIBERAL on that point!!!!!!!!!! As far as pulling the switch, I just sometimes believe that the punishment is befitting the crime.

 

[Barb Dwyer]

Why don't we just send them to France?

That would be considered cruel and unusual punishment and you would have the ACLU on your backside for that! LOL

Todd asked what would be considered "politically correct" - by which I inferred that he truly meant proper or appropriate punishment.

Here's a good example of jurisprudence in the news. We shall have to wait to see what sentence he will receive and if it befits the crime as UC suggests, but I believe justice was served by his conviction.

Man Found Guilty in California Road Rage Dog Death

SAN JOSE, Calif. (Reuters) - A jury on Tuesday returned a guilty verdict against a former telephone repair man accused of throwing a lap dog to its death in traffic in a bizarre explosion of road rage.

Andrew Burnett, 27, faces a maximum of three years in prison for his conviction on a charge of felony animal cruelty.

The Santa Clara Superior Court jury deliberated for just 40 minutes before finding Burnett guilty in a case that incensed animal lovers around the world and spurred more than $120,000 in donations to a reward fund for information on the dog's killer. Burnett's lawyer began his defense by admitting his client had grabbed the fluffy white bichon frise named Leo from its owner's car after a minor fender-bender outside San Jose International Airport in February 2000.

But he said his client tossed the dog into traffic in a reflex action after the small dog bit his hand.

 

[Laurel]

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In regard to your question, what else are you going to do with them? It's just part of the cost of maintaining a civilized society. The cost issue is somewhat of a red herring because in most cases, it ends up costing more to put someone to death, what with the usual string of appeals, public defenders, etc., than it does to keep them in prison. Unless we're willing to adopt the Afghanistan justice model, life imprisonment seems like the only reasonable option.

Regardless of the opinions of people who throw out rash generalizations without regard for facts (mentioning no names, of course) prison is not exactly a lush life, nor should it be. We shouldn't confuse the Federal pens for white-collar crime with your typical joint. I don't think anybody who commits the kind of crimes you describe deserves anything other than basic sustenance in confinement and I don't think they get much more than that.

Maybe if we stopped filling up prisons with minor drug offenders, we could get penal costs in line and not worry about keeping prisoners locked up instead of playing God with them. Think about whether you could be the one who pulls the switch or pushes the button. I couldn't...

*applause* Perfect! Brilliant! Encore! Encore!

 

[LordMagicMan]

Eye for and Eye, Tooth for a tooth. ROAST THE BIOTCH