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[CharleyH]

I was thinking what do straight chicks and dudes like about LESBIAN PORN?

I think - and this is me - lesbians prefer staight porn to lesbian conservative porn and guys get off because they see themselves in the middle of two chicks with big tits waiting for a dick? What do you love or hate about traditional lesbian porn?

 

[impressive]

I don't know the difference between straight & conservative lesbian porn. *shrug*

 

[kendo1]

I was thinking what do straight chicks and dudes like about LESBIAN PORN?

I think - and this is me - lesbians prefer staight porn to lesbian conservative porn and guys get off because they see themselves in the middle of two chicks with big tits waiting for a dick? What do you love or hate about traditional lesbian porn?

No, they don't have to have big tits, and I don't want to be in between them.
I just find it very erotic.

 

[CharleyH]

I appreciate your takes, thank you.

 

[kendo1]

Deleted.

 

[neonlyte]

I was thinking what do straight chicks and dudes like about LESBIAN PORN?

I think - and this is me - lesbians prefer staight porn to lesbian conservative porn and guys get off because they see themselves in the middle of two chicks with big tits waiting for a dick? What do you love or hate about traditional lesbian porn?

Boy did you get this WRONG.

I take it we are talking about writing? Well I fairly sure most guys cannot seperate the words from the visuals. The very image (I mean the image inescapably transferred by the words) involves seeing both sides of the same coin, a pert bottom displayed with tits and a fanny on the other end. The bottom looks so vulnerable, so exposed, so waiting - guess where Dick's going.

 

[CharleyH]

So, what about your tastes?

Porm lesbos are made for men, real lesbian porn? There is a question. My taste is, reality. Thank you for asking. What about you?

 

[HappyLlama]

He's with me.
Who needs reality?
Lesbo porn is produced for a market that exists.
Personally, I am not into anal sex which seems to rear its head in lesbo flicks.
Each to their own, I guess.

Thinking about it, I like to see my wife climaxing/satisfied. If I don't, well, another time will come...
The same for lesbian sex I suppose: I like it when a woman climaxes.

 

[TxRad]

No, they don't have to have big tits, and I don't want to be in between them.
I just find it very erotic.

<<<< Agrees whole heartedly with you on this one....

Even the mental image is very erotic ....

 

[CharleyH]

Boy did you get this WRONG.

I take it we are talking about writing? Well I fairly sure most guys cannot seperate the words from the visuals. The very image (I mean the image inescapably transferred by the words) involves seeing both sides of the same coin, a pert bottom displayed with tits and a fanny on the other end. The bottom looks so vulnerable, so exposed, so waiting - guess where Dick's going.

Actually talking porn sites - not writing, yet excellent add! Let me ask for one moment since you are a guy? What does a lesbian look like to YOU? What physical traits? And ... (open ended)

 

[kendo1]

Personally, I am not into anal sex which seems to rear its head in lesbo flicks.

Very witty.

 

[HappyLlama]

Very witty.

I thought so.



What do lesbians look like?
Women.

Though I prefer younger (From an old timer I mean under 30 !) and attractive.
Though everyone's taste on beauty is different. I know what I like.
A pretty face, a good figure and a willingness to perform!

The older you get, the more forgiving you become.

 

[Guest]

Where is Vana when I need her We had this kinda discussion goin at the GLBT. I think the thoughts at the time was that it's about the emotion involved. Even if its porn there are feelings that can be identified and seen when two women are together.

 

[kendo1]

Even if its porn there are feelings that can be identified and seen when two women are together.

It seems to me, even more so than with male/female porn.

 

[Guest]

It seems to me, even more so than with male/female porn.

Heya Fellow Edinburgher

 

[Luna_Wolf72]

droppin by to wave at fem

*waves*

 

[neonlyte]

Actually talking porn sites - not writing, yet excellent add! Let me ask for one moment since you are a guy? What does a lesbian look like to YOU? What physical traits? And ... (open ended)

One word? Intimacy.




Ok more words - not about porn shoots. The only lesbian relationships I know are extremely strong, supportive and loving. The lesbian women I know are generally caring and considerate, of others as well as their partners - but I may have been mixing with the wrong crowd. I can tell you that when I'm writing women characters and their interraction with women friends, I always write them from a lesbian viewpoint because I cannot find any other way to convey the general intimacy that women share compared with the intimacy men friends share. It is very different. It might be a lazy way to write characters but it works for me.

As for physical traits - I'm the wrong writer to ask I rarely ever give physical attributes to my characters, unless it is the point of the story.

 

[kendo1]

Hi fem!

And Luna!

 

[Guest]

droppin by to wave at fem

*waves*

thread jacking but i cant help it when luna puts her arse in my face

*lick*

 

[Typo Fu Master]

I was thinking what do straight chicks and dudes like about LESBIAN PORN?

I think - and this is me - lesbians prefer staight porn to lesbian conservative porn and guys get off because they see themselves in the middle of two chicks with big tits waiting for a dick? What do you love or hate about traditional lesbian porn?

I think I'm in the straight guy minority that doesn't like watching lesbian porn. Women licking and fingering and dildo-ing each other does nothing for me. Well, maybe not nothing ... how about very little?

I don't get into watching the guys in porn, but watching as he thrusts in and out of whatever hole he happens to be in does more for me than watching all girls go at it.

 

[rgraham666]

What does a lesbian look like? A woman, last time I checked.

Generally I find most lesbian porn, written, photos or other, as dull as straight porn.

No emotion, no initimacy, no passion, and the people involved are too perfect to be likable.

Yawn.

 

[CharleyH]

He's with me.
Who needs reality?
Lesbo porn is produced for a market that exists.
Personally, I am not into anal sex which seems to rear its head in lesbo flicks.
Each to their own, I guess.

Thinking about it, I like to see my wife climaxing/satisfied. If I don't, well, another time will come...
The same for lesbian sex I suppose: I like it when a woman climaxes.

So, you are saying there is NO market for dykes or girls? It's just all male vanity?

 

[TxRad]

So, you are saying there is NO market for dykes or girls? It's just all male vanity?

No, that's not what he said.... He said Lesbo porn flicks weren't his bag and he was into female climaxes, whether it was his wifes or a lesbian couples.....

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

It's the soft feminine flesh and skin, variety, and quantity for me. Especially if I have a reason to believe that the girls are at least bi and not just acting.

I'll second a couple of things that Rob said, though. If they are flawless, physically or otherwise, then it does little for me. It's like fantasizing about a statue. Aesthetically pleasing, but too two-dimensional and contrived to be enjoyable or thrilling. Flawed, flesh-and-blood human beings with lusts, needs, issues, fetishes, either liking, hating, loving, or just really hungering for each other is much better. I have long since abandoned any attempt to make my characters moral paragons by anyone's standard of ethics and values. Or physically "superior", as if there is such a thing.

Give me an eccentric Goth chick topping a somewhat plump and neurotic divorcee and soccer mom frustrated and unsure of herself since the end of her marriage, any day. Oooh, that would be great for the Story Ideas Board.

Just using a literary analogy, because all the porn that I produce and create is literary. So it's what I am most familiar with. Not that I am opposed to lesbo porn flicks for a simple session with my right hand. But it's a less intense turn-on that way. People I create and read about are the most satisfying, since they seem more intense and imaginative, while also more disturbed. Also more dangerous and less predictable. And there is nothing like the God-like power of creating people that never were but for you. A total power trip.

Don't forget what Nietzsche said about men, "A real man craves both danger and play, therefore he desires woman as the most dangerous plaything."

There is a lot more danger in written than cinematic porn. A lot more actual play too.

So, yes, we men do like straight-up girl-on-girl. But there is something to a medium that's less safe and predictable.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

So, you are saying there is NO market for dykes or girls? It's just all male vanity?

There is a market for dykes. And a market for women. the thing is, neither market is as strong as the market for males and both are selective.

You have to look at it from a standpoint of economics. It will cost you about the same to produce something geared to dykes as it will something geared to guys. The number of guys who watch/buy porn is fairly high, and, in a feature movie, with a good mix, you can probably have at least one to two scenes that appeal to most any generic consumer.

If you gear it to dkyes, the action is of neccissity all girl, and depending on the dyke in question, you may still miss her particular turn on.

Basically, for the same outlay, you can shoot for guys, which only really takes a splattergun aproach as the target is solarge.

Women, whih requires a very refined idea of the demor graphic to achieve success.

Or dykes, a subset of women, with an even more refined demographic to try and hit.

You are, with each refinement, culling the size of you potential audience, while having to invest more in knowing that niche audiences preferences. At some point, it becomes uneconomical, unless you already know the niche audience and it's preeferences and can tailor something to that preference with a substantial chance of being on target.

Or you can produce a generic, geared to guys porno, and hoipe you pick up some of the niche audience too.

To my mind, the obligatory lesbian scene in each film isn't geared to picking up lesbians at all, it's gared to making sure you cover as many angles as possible to get the male audience who, in general, is going to be your bread and butter due simply to size. Films geared towards women or dykes, will enjoy a much narrower crossover to generic male interests.

Short of a few outfits and producers, with a record of hitting the right vibe for women or lesbians, most of the big outfits won't take a chance on something that may miss everyone and flop.