Lesbian Set story statistics by gender

[8letters]

Lesbian Sex story statistics by gender

I've got some unsurprising and surprising data. Let's start with the unsurprising. Here's the Lesbian Sex stories data broken out by gender (I have no idea why there's a big gap down to the table):
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Published​

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Favorites​

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[tr][td]Female[/td][td]

10061​

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51.5K​

[/td][td]

23.0​

[/td][td]

4.37​

[/td][td]

6.7​

[/td][td]

40%​

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[tr][td]Male[/td][td]

4461​

[/td][td]

48.1K​

[/td][td]

20.3​

[/td][td]

4.27​

[/td][td]

4.4​

[/td][td]

33%​

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[tr][td]No Answer[/td][td]

4019​

[/td][td]

43.6K​

[/td][td]

22.8​

[/td][td]

4.37​

[/td][td]

6.1​

[/td][td]

41%​

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[tr][td]Couple[/td][td]

110​

[/td][td]

50.6K​

[/td][td]

15.0​

[/td][td]

4.29​

[/td][td]

2.8​

[/td][td]

25%​

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[tr][td]Genderqueer[/td][td]

65​

[/td][td]

30.7K​

[/td][td]

44.1​

[/td][td]

4.53​

[/td][td]

16.6​

[/td][td]

61%​

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[tr][td]Different Identity[/td][td]

55​

[/td][td]

30.1K​

[/td][td]

65.6​

[/td][td]

4.77​

[/td][td]

32.9​

[/td][td]

89%​

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[tr][td]Transgender Female[/td][td]

51​

[/td][td]

18.2K​

[/td][td]

17.3​

[/td][td]

4.38​

[/td][td]

4.2​

[/td][td]

41%​

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[tr][td]Transgender[/td][td]

47​

[/td][td]

40.0K​

[/td][td]

12.4​

[/td][td]

4.10​

[/td][td]

4.1​

[/td][td]

22%​

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[tr][td]Genderless[/td][td]

26​

[/td][td]

9.3K​

[/td][td]

9.0​

[/td][td]

4.27​

[/td][td]

2.5​

[/td][td]

32%​

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[tr][td]Transgender Male[/td][td]

11​

[/td][td]

27.8K​

[/td][td]

20.0​

[/td][td]

4.37​

[/td][td]

3.0​

[/td][td]

27%​

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[tr][td]Banned[/td][td]

8​

[/td][td]

60.1K​

[/td][td]

15.1​

[/td][td]

4.30​

[/td][td]

8.7​

[/td][td]

13%​

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[tr][td]Missing[/td][td]

1​

[/td][td]

27.7K​

[/td][td]

59.0​

[/td][td]

4.38​

[/td][td]

31.0​

[/td][td]

0%​

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[tr][td]Intersex[/td][td]

1​

[/td][td]

28.0K​

[/td][td]

14.0​

[/td][td]

4.24​

[/td][td]

14.0​

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0%​

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[8letters]

My takes:
* Female authors do better than Male authors
* No Answer authors have numbers almost identical to Female authors
* Couple authors perform around Male authors
* Different Identity and Genderqueer do far, far better than all the other gender choices. The two main authors who identify as Different Identity are the outstanding Bramblethorn and JCMcNeilly. The two main authors that identify as Genderqueer are the outstanding JodiHutchins and Salandar
* The other groups are so small that I don't think it's fair to make any conclusions

 

[8letters]

Adding Orientation to Gender:
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[tr][td]Female[/td][td]Bi[/td][td]

4121​

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60.5K​

[/td][td]

24.7​

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4.34​

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6.5​

[/td][td]

35%​

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[tr][td]No Answer[/td][td]No Answer[/td][td]

3499​

[/td][td]

43.7K​

[/td][td]

22.9​

[/td][td]

4.37​

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6.3​

[/td][td]

41%​

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[tr][td]Female[/td][td]Gay[/td][td]

3316​

[/td][td]

41.1K​

[/td][td]

22.9​

[/td][td]

4.44​

[/td][td]

7.4​

[/td][td]

50%​

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[tr][td]Male[/td][td]Straight[/td][td]

3311​

[/td][td]

50.8K​

[/td][td]

21.0​

[/td][td]

4.31​

[/td][td]

4.5​

[/td][td]

34%​

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[tr][td]Female[/td][td]No Answer[/td][td]

1464​

[/td][td]

51.5K​

[/td][td]

24.6​

[/td][td]

4.33​

[/td][td]

7.6​

[/td][td]

36%​

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[tr][td]Female[/td][td]Straight[/td][td]

1049​

[/td][td]

52.3K​

[/td][td]

15.8​

[/td][td]

4.31​

[/td][td]

4.7​

[/td][td]

33%​

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[tr][td]Male[/td][td]Bi[/td][td]

658​

[/td][td]

39.7K​

[/td][td]

16.1​

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4.00​

[/td][td]

3.4​

[/td][td]

26%​

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[tr][td]Male[/td][td]No Answer[/td][td]

449​

[/td][td]

42.2K​

[/td][td]

21.6​

[/td][td]

4.33​

[/td][td]

5.0​

[/td][td]

36%​

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[tr][td]No Answer[/td][td]Straight[/td][td]

302​

[/td][td]

42.0K​

[/td][td]

21.5​

[/td][td]

4.39​

[/td][td]

3.7​

[/td][td]

37%​

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[tr][td]No Answer[/td][td]Bi[/td][td]

183​

[/td][td]

46.8K​

[/td][td]

25.7​

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4.39​

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7.3​

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38%​

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[tr][td]Female[/td][td]Pansexual[/td][td]

99​

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22.8K​

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12.9​

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4.38​

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4.0​

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44%​

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[tr][td]Different Identity[/td][td]No Answer[/td][td]

52​

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31.3K​

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68.9​

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4.79​

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34.6​

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94%​

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[tr][td]Couple[/td][td]Bi[/td][td]

39​

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48.5K​

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11.1​

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4.25​

[/td][td]

2.5​

[/td][td]

23%​

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[tr][td]Couple[/td][td]No Answer[/td][td]

37​

[/td][td]

47.2K​

[/td][td]

20.6​

[/td][td]

4.42​

[/td][td]

2.6​

[/td][td]

42%​

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[tr][td]Couple[/td][td]Straight[/td][td]

33​

[/td][td]

58.3K​

[/td][td]

13.5​

[/td][td]

4.22​

[/td][td]

3.4​

[/td][td]

9%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Transgender Female[/td][td]Gay[/td][td]

27​

[/td][td]

6.8K​

[/td][td]

11.7​

[/td][td]

4.50​

[/td][td]

3.4​

[/td][td]

56%​

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[tr][td]Transgender[/td][td]Bi[/td][td]

26​

[/td][td]

40.4K​

[/td][td]

14.5​

[/td][td]

4.18​

[/td][td]

3.2​

[/td][td]

24%​

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[tr][td]No Answer[/td][td]Gay[/td][td]

25​

[/td][td]

26.5K​

[/td][td]

9.8​

[/td][td]

4.05​

[/td][td]

3.5​

[/td][td]

8%​

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[tr][td]Male[/td][td]Pansexual[/td][td]

24​

[/td][td]

35.5K​

[/td][td]

12.9​

[/td][td]

4.30​

[/td][td]

3.4​

[/td][td]

21%​

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[tr][td]Genderqueer[/td][td]Gay[/td][td]

23​

[/td][td]

28.7K​

[/td][td]

33.0​

[/td][td]

4.53​

[/td][td]

15.1​

[/td][td]

70%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Genderqueer[/td][td]Bi[/td][td]

19​

[/td][td]

26.5K​

[/td][td]

16.1​

[/td][td]

4.36​

[/td][td]

3.1​

[/td][td]

15%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Male[/td][td]Gay[/td][td]

19​

[/td][td]

32.5K​

[/td][td]

5.8​

[/td][td]

3.85​

[/td][td]

2.0​

[/td][td]

0%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Genderqueer[/td][td]Pansexual[/td][td]

16​

[/td][td]

33.4K​

[/td][td]

88.9​

[/td][td]

4.64​

[/td][td]

32.3​

[/td][td]

75%​

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[tr][td]Transgender[/td][td]No Answer[/td][td]

16​

[/td][td]

30.7K​

[/td][td]

4.7​

[/td][td]

3.93​

[/td][td]

1.9​

[/td][td]

13%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Transgender Female[/td][td]No Answer[/td][td]

15​

[/td][td]

33.2K​

[/td][td]

26.5​

[/td][td]

4.21​

[/td][td]

5.5​

[/td][td]

27%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Genderless[/td][td]Gay[/td][td]

15​

[/td][td]

9.3K​

[/td][td]

8.9​

[/td][td]

4.20​

[/td][td]

1.9​

[/td][td]

14%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Female[/td][td]Asexual[/td][td]

12​

[/td][td]

13.0K​

[/td][td]

8.4​

[/td][td]

4.33​

[/td][td]

3.4​

[/td][td]

42%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Transgender Male[/td][td]Straight[/td][td]

10​

[/td][td]

30.2K​

[/td][td]

21.7​

[/td][td]

4.39​

[/td][td]

3.3​

[/td][td]

30%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Banned[/td][td]Banned[/td][td]

8​

[/td][td]

60.1K​

[/td][td]

15.1​

[/td][td]

4.30​

[/td][td]

8.7​

[/td][td]

13%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]No Answer[/td][td]Asexual[/td][td]

7​

[/td][td]

23.0K​

[/td][td]

18.6​

[/td][td]

4.30​

[/td][td]

5.0​

[/td][td]

29%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Genderqueer[/td][td]Asexual[/td][td]

7​

[/td][td]

42.9K​

[/td][td]

54.4​

[/td][td]

4.61​

[/td][td]

9.3​

[/td][td]

86%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Transgender Female[/td][td]Bi[/td][td]

4​

[/td][td]

48.0K​

[/td][td]

31.8​

[/td][td]

4.21​

[/td][td]

5.3​

[/td][td]

0%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Genderless[/td][td]Bi[/td][td]

4​

[/td][td]

8.9K​

[/td][td]

6.3​

[/td][td]

4.34​

[/td][td]

2.0​

[/td][td]

50%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Genderless[/td][td]No Answer[/td][td]

4​

[/td][td]

6.7K​

[/td][td]

15.3​

[/td][td]

4.67​

[/td][td]

4.8​

[/td][td]

100%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Transgender Female[/td][td]Pansexual[/td][td]

4​

[/td][td]

6.7K​

[/td][td]

6.3​

[/td][td]

4.36​

[/td][td]

3.0​

[/td][td]

50%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]No Answer[/td][td]Pansexual[/td][td]

3​

[/td][td]

51.1K​

[/td][td]

13.7​

[/td][td]

4.16​

[/td][td]

1.3​

[/td][td]

0%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Transgender[/td][td]Gay[/td][td]

3​

[/td][td]

15.5K​

[/td][td]

14.3​

[/td][td]

4.27​

[/td][td]

7.3​

[/td][td]

67%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Transgender[/td][td]Straight[/td][td]

2​

[/td][td]

145.6K​

[/td][td]

44.0​

[/td][td]

4.27​

[/td][td]

26.5​

[/td][td]

0%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Genderless[/td][td]Pansexual[/td][td]

2​

[/td][td]

4.4K​

[/td][td]

2.5​

[/td][td]

4.16​

[/td][td]

0.5​

[/td][td]

0%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Different Identity[/td][td]Pansexual[/td][td]

2​

[/td][td]

3.8K​

[/td][td]

6.5​

[/td][td]

4.34​

[/td][td]

4.0​

[/td][td]

0%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Intersex[/td][td]Bi[/td][td]

1​

[/td][td]

28.0K​

[/td][td]

14.0​

[/td][td]

4.24​

[/td][td]

14.0​

[/td][td]

0%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Transgender Female[/td][td]Straight[/td][td]

1​

[/td][td]

29.2K​

[/td][td]

19.0​

[/td][td]

4.37​

[/td][td]

6.0​

[/td][td]

0%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Different Identity[/td][td]Straight[/td][td]

1​

[/td][td]

17.4K​

[/td][td]

14.0​

[/td][td]

4.48​

[/td][td]

2.0​

[/td][td]

0%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Transgender Male[/td][td]Bi[/td][td]

1​

[/td][td]

4.2K​

[/td][td]

3.0​

[/td][td]

4.15​

[/td][td]

0.0​

[/td][td]

0%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Genderless[/td][td]Straight[/td][td]

1​

[/td][td]

32.2K​

[/td][td]

9.0​

[/td][td]

3.78​

[/td][td]

8.0​

[/td][td]

0%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Couple[/td][td]Pansexual[/td][td]

1​

[/td][td]

7.5K​

[/td][td]

10.0​

[/td][td]

4.05​

[/td][td]

0.0​

[/td][td]

0%​

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Missing[/td][td]Missing[/td][td]

1​

[/td][td]

27.7K​

[/td][td]

59.0​

[/td][td]

4.38​

[/td][td]

31.0​

[/td][td]

0%​

[/td][/tr]

 

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My takes:
* Bi Females have written the most stories and have the highest averages of the big groups for views and favorites
* No Answer - No Answer has written the second most stories. 28% less views than Bi Females, a little better average rating and a little down for average favorites and comments
* Gay Females have written the third most stories and have the highest average rating and the highest average comments of the big groups. Compared to Bi Females, Gay Females have 32% less averages views and 8% fewer average favorites
* Straight Males are the last of the biggest writers of stories. They surprisingly average more views than No Answer - No Answer and Gay Females. Their average number of comments is way down compared to the other biggest writers, but their other averages are surprisingly close and very compareable to Straight Female
* No Answer Females have far fewer stories than that top four groups and average the most comments of the big groups. Their other numbers fall in between Bi Females, No Answer - No Answer and Gay Females
* Straight Females have a third the stories of Straight Males, have the lowest average for favorites of the big groups but otherwise has averages similar to Straight Male
* Bi Males' stories have the worst averages among the big groups
* No Answer Males average less views Straight Males, but otherwise their averages look like Straight Males
* The other groups have so few stories that I'm not going to comment on them

 

[HeyAll]

Thanks so much for the stats, I often wonder about the gender of readers and writers.

One thing I notice is that long, acclaimed stories written by women tend to get a lot of comments from women. I notice this just by looking at the story and who the commenters are.

Meanwhile, stories like mine (I'm a man, who writes a lot of lesbian) tend to get lots of favorites/comments from men. Most of my lesbian stats are from men.

Any plans to analyze other genres, such as Mature or Group or anything?

 

[8letters]

Any plans to analyze other genres, such as Mature or Group or anything?

I've got several more threads planned for Lesbian Sex stories using the data I have. I was thinking of then generating data by looking at the stories themselves. That will take a while to do. But I can easily pull the data for other categories if people are interested in seeing the data for them while I'm mining the Lesbian Sex stories for data. So if a lot of people ask that I do something similar for Mature or Group or any other category, I'll do it. The fewer number of stories in the category the better (which rules out I/T and EC).

 

[Bramblethorn]

Interesting - I'm not surprised by the existence of the female/male scoring gap, but I'd have guessed it to be larger than it is.

 

[GinnyPPC]

Interesting - I'm not surprised by the existence of the female/male scoring gap, but I'd have guessed it to be larger than it is.

My takes:
* Different Identity and Genderqueer do far, far better than all the other gender choices. The two main authors who identify as Different Identity are the outstanding Bramblethorn and JCMcNeilly. The two main authors that identify as Genderqueer are the outstanding JodiHutchins and Salandar

I'm with you Bramble, I would have thought the scoring difference to be greater between male and female than it is.

And in the most non-shocking news of the day, Bramblethorn's and JCMcNeilly's works are outstanding.

 

[Trionyx]

What a huge amount of work to pull this all together. Over fifteen thousand titles reviewed! Excellent work with interesting data.

I’m not a statistician but I would urge caution before interpreting this data too finely. I do believe one can safely say that female writers have higher scores than male writers and there are perhaps several explanations for this.

It seems that a lot of the lesbian female writers are very supportive of each other and that may drive some of the scores. I would also suggest that this category has more female writers and readers than some of the other categories. It is well known that women and men have different styles of writing so much so that computer algorithms can predict with a fair degree of certainty whether a writer was female or male. Maybe female writers subconsciously enjoy things written by females better than by males. Maybe females vote more often. Who knows?

Finally, I think it is fair to generalize women and men enjoy different types of literature. Look at the tons of romance novels almost all geared to the female reader. It is my belief that many of the serial lesbian stories found on this site are particularly romantic and many of those writers identify as lesbian. I would also suggest straight women tend to be more accepting of homosexuality than straight men. Putting it all together, women are more likely to read and enjoy lesbian stories with a romantic undertone, even if they don’t identify themselves as lesbian.

Thoughts?

 

[lovecraft68]

Of course all of this is based on what the author claims to be, odds are there's many who are claiming to be something they're not.

 

[lovecraft68]

Not trying to diminish the work the Op puts into these things, but what exactly is the point? Do people here now base what they write and how they write it on these graphs? Does it deter or encourage people to try/not try whatever genre he's reporting on at the moment?

or is it just "look, stats, cool?"

 

[Bramblethorn]

Not trying to diminish the work the Op puts into these things, but what exactly is the point? Do people here now base what they write and how they write it on these graphs? Does it deter or encourage people to try/not try whatever genre he's reporting on at the moment?

or is it just "look, stats, cool?"

Doesn't affect how I write, but I find this sort of thing interesting. I like to know how stuff works.

so, yeah, "look, stats, cool".

 

[8letters]

Not trying to diminish the work the Op puts into these things, but what exactly is the point? Do people here now base what they write and how they write it on these graphs? Does it deter or encourage people to try/not try whatever genre he's reporting on at the moment?

or is it just "look, stats, cool?"

The last straw that got me to do this project was some jerk emphatically posting in the forums that authors got so much of a better response several years ago than they get now. I thought that was bullshit, but I couldn't prove that it was bullshit. So I trained some gerbils to pull the LS data, and it turns out it was bullshit.

But once I got all that data, I couldn't resist slicing and dicing it different ways to see what would come out. I'm a heterosexual male and don't read LS, so I knew very little about the category. I had always thought than male writers would be significantly worse than female writers at writing LS stories. To my surprise, that's not true. LS stories from Straight Male writers appeal more to the Male LS audience than other writers. I had no idea that there was a significant Male LS audience. Another thing that surprised me was that Bi Females produced the most stories. I've always assumed that Gay Females wrote the majority of LS stories. As a heterosexual male, I'm ignorant of the non-heterosexual world, and I'm glad to be less ignorant now.

Since I did my first statistical analysis, I've been hunkering to take a deeper dive into stories so as to come up with more prescriptive advice. To do that, I need a lot of stories. Now, I have them. Soon, I'll start doing a deeper dive into stories. But first, I've got some more posts to do with my existing data

 

[SimonDoom]

The last straw that got me to do this project was some jerk emphatically posting in the forums that authors got so much of a better response several years ago than they get now. I thought that was bullshit, but I couldn't prove that it was bullshit. So I trained some gerbils to pull the LS data, and it turns out it was bullshit.

But once I got all that data, I couldn't resist slicing and dicing it different ways to see what would come out. I'm a heterosexual male and don't read LS, so I knew very little about the category. I had always thought than male writers would be significantly worse than female writers at writing LS stories. To my surprise, that's not true. LS stories from Straight Male writers appeal more to the Male LS audience than other writers. I had no idea that there was a significant Male LS audience. Another thing that surprised me was that Bi Females produced the most stories. I've always assumed that Gay Females wrote the majority of LS stories. As a heterosexual male, I'm ignorant of the non-heterosexual world, and I'm glad to be less ignorant now.

Since I did my first statistical analysis, I've been hunkering to take a deeper dive into stories so as to come up with more prescriptive advice. To do that, I need a lot of stories. Now, I have them. Soon, I'll start doing a deeper dive into stories. But first, I've got some more posts to do with my existing data

Data trump logic. We all think we know what reality is, and we're often wrong. You actually have to do the hard work to find out what the facts are, and once you do you often find out what you believed was wrong.

That's why I think things like this are interesting and valuable.

This must have been a lot of work. Unless you hired really capable gerbils.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Lesbianism is very popular in my crowd. My wife and I read it, live it, and love it. I probably should write more of it.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I had no idea that there was a significant Male LS audience.

I'm not too shocked. Of the ones who send me feedback, I'd estimate about a third of my readers from that category present as male.

My impression is that there are a couple of different categories of male readers in LS: a "stroke" crowd who are looking for sex scenes featuring women (and for some, scenes not featuring men, because reading about a naked dude makes you gay?) and a "story" crowd who are looking for feely stories with emotions and relationships and things, and who think LS might be a good place to find that.

It'd be interesting to try some cluster analysis based on faves, to see if one can roughly separate stories and readers into those categories. I suspect there won't be quite enough favourites to make it work, but I could be wrong.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I'm not too shocked. Of the ones who send me feedback, I'd estimate about a third of my readers from that category present as male.

Neither am I. Generally speaking, women write more emotionally tuned stories which tend far more towards intimacy and erotica, steering away from the dumb male oriented porn stereotypes that are over-represented on Lit.