legalize it!

[spacekowboy]

I read in someone's post something about marajuana still being illegal . And so it got me to thinking about my own veiws on the legalization of it .So I thought what the hell I'll see how everyone here sees the issue .

For the record I'm all for the legalization . I think it's assinine that pot is illegal when it has been proven much less harmful that alchohol . I beleive the potential bennefits greatly outweigh the disadvantages. The money that could be made from this resource is mind boggling . Not to mention it's a hell of a good afrodisiac

 

[Guest]

Re: Legalize it.

I second that!

 

[Fleshmachine]

No way! I don't want to pay taxes on my dope.

 

[Guest]

Lol...but you'd rather risk jail and losing your dope, etc?

 

[spacekowboy]

I hear ya about the taxes . but i really don't relish the idea of going to jail for getting , or selling something that grows free on the earth .i say legalize it then we can bring over all that primo stuff from amsterdam .

"Smoke up ,Johnny"- the breakfast club

 

[Fleshmachine]

How much do you pay? Hell yes, I'll risk it.

 

[Guest]

I don't pay. I have a friend who gets killer deals and he just gives me some of his if I want it. (Not to mention, he and his g/f...Ezzie...usualy come here to smoke it anyway!)

 

[Weird Harold]

I read in someone's post something about marajuana still being illegal.

Why limit this to Marijuana?

The whole war on drugs is very much like trying to dam the Missisppi without any spillways to control floods -- it hasn't ever worked, isn't working now, and never will work.

it would be much more logical to stop spending money in a futile effort and start making money from taxes to finance treatment centers and anti-drug education.

 

[Make_My_Day]

OK.. being Dutch, I think I can come forward here with an expert opinion. (I haven’t met any other Dutch here so far.. so relatively I feel like an expert).
Besides.. believe it or not, I live across and in between coffee shops.. and I don’t even live in Amsterdam!

Hear this; for me there are really two side to this statement.

The reasons to legalize drugs:
I think here in Holland less people smoke pot than they do in other countries.. trust me, I’ve lived in Spain as well and you would not believe the number of people that smoke there! The same goes for the French. Why? Because here a joint is just as easy to get as a beer. So what’s the dig deal? I don’t drink beer every day (or; alcohol.. I don’t like beer).
Second; the pot sold here is SO much better than anywhere else. I don’t mean to say that with arrogance but the pot I smelled in other countries… Jeezz..
Third; and this is quite important actually, if you legalize drugs, you can control it. The discussion in Holland has now started on hard-drugs.. why? Because the problem is there, it will not go away by making it illegal. So, it’s better to legalize it and at least take care that people have places to inject heroine for example (we actually have centres for that in the bigger cities). This way you can make sure that the addict uses sterilised needles and doesn’t throw it out on the street afterwards. All this in relation to the HIV virus.
Same thing with prostitution; it’s legal here in Holland. And the positive consequences are numerous: Girls (prostitutes) have to get a regular health check, cutting down the risks of spreading diseases. The chances of young girls running away from home and ending up as a hooker are very small and (and this is funny if you think about it) they actually pay taxes. It’s a registered profession.

Overall, I believe “If you can’t beat them, join them”, better legalise and try to help people who cannot handle it than close your eyes to a problem that will not go away. I smoke a joint every ones in a while, I don’t have to do it behind anybodies back and I get good pot, I don’t have to worry about any screwed up merchandise, it’s being tested etc etc.

On the other hand:
Since it is legal, you can also smoke it anywhere. Now, I can tell you that you do not enjoy sitting in the train to work and somebody is smoking pot next to you. Well maybe if you like being stoned all day, but I don’t. Now, if somebody would be drinking a beer next to me at 7 a.m. I couldn’t care less, I think he’s out of his mind, but it’s his business. But when somebody is smoking pot next to me, it is my business, I inhale it. Maybe this sounds stupid to you.. but try to imagine people openly using drugs around you, even if it’s only soft drugs..
Another thing, not so pleasant about it are drugs tourists.. no offence to any one, but some of them act like kids, being without their parents for the first time..

 

[Fleshmachine]

Yeah but if they legalize it several associates of mine would lose their livelihood. I don't want to get a real job anymore.

 

[RisiaSkye]

Why limit this to Marijuana?

The whole war on drugs is very much like trying to dam the Missisppi without any spillways to control floods -- it hasn't ever worked, isn't working now, and never will work.

Yeah. What he said.

 

[Weird Harold]

OK.. being Dutch, I think I can come forward here with an expert opinion. (I haven’t met any other Dutch here so far.. so relatively I feel like an expert).

Welcome! I think the opinion of someone who has to live with the consequences of legal marijuana everyday is bound to have some good information for us. You certainly have more basis for your opinion than I do for mine -- mine is all based on theory and logic.

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On the other hand:
Since it is legal, you can also smoke it anywhere.

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Another thing, not so pleasant about it are drugs tourists.. no offence to any one, but some of them act like kids, being without their parents for the first time..

I noticed your list of reasons for was a LOT longer than the reasons against. That alone says volumes about legalization.

I think any legalization plan here in the US will have to include provisions about "public use" (similar to anti-smoking laws) and stronger provisions for operating equipment or vehicles under the infuence. Our DUI laws aren't strong enough to deal effectively with drunk drivers, the chaos of having stoned drivers on the roads as well could well be disastrous.

The Drug tourists exist only because your neighbors don't have as much sense as you Dutch do. If there were some International agreement on standardized provisions for legalizing drugs, the drug (and sex) tourist problem would go away. (Well, actually it would stay home but you know what I mean.)

 

[Starfish]

Taxes.... They can only tax you on what you buy and sell...


If it's legal... Grow your godamn own!

Besides, And this is the way that it is...

99.9% of all reefer on the street is crap. Total shit weed.

Now, I am not saying that there isn't any good ganga on the street, but that .1% isn't even that good.
Until you have had a nice Jack Herer x NL, NL no. 5, BC or a dank Germ, you haven't puff the diggs.

Oh god, Diggs for Tiggs... a new charitable organization!


Fleshmachine,
I have to say that I am trying very hard not to make assumptions about you, but you are making it very difficult. Please don't be offened if this isn't the case, but Your not one of those fucks who trys to sell a gram of dirt weed for 50 bones, while you're calling it 'nuggets', are you? I am truely sorry if I am jumping to conclusions, and I am not throughly convinced that I am even making a conclusion and, that is why I am asking.
I just know that there are a lot of idiots out there doing that, and that is another reason why Ganga remains illegal. The idea that the substance has crossed cultural lines from the happy hippy to being intermingled into a more violent social sub culture of people, only puts it in a bad frame of referance. Not saying that you are violent or criminal, but overcharging anyone for a product that isn't worth the price, is criminal, whether it is an illegal substance or not. Don't get me wrong. I am all for people like Snoop Dog having a green room, and to be honest, he isn't the kind of person I am talking about, so bad example. I actually love him. Ooops.

I just mean, the people who sell weed, cause they just so happen to be out of crack to sell. I think you are a funny guy, so please understand that I am really just being a grumpy bitch here. I am just worried that next we are gonna hear that students are killing each other over bags of brown bud. OY-Vey!

Me, I am an intellect. I know a great deal about plants, and that lends to the growing know how. Too bad I can't grow it. Too scared of loosing my house, and family. I smoke a bowl, like one would have a cocktail, except I am a lush. I just happen to be a hyperactive nit, and if I am not high, I am unbearable!

Hugs all.

[Edited by G.R. on 05-17-2001 at 05:39 PM]

 

[Problem Child]

What would legalizing drugs do?

Free up about half the space in our overflowing prisons.

Allow the police to concentrate on catching real criminals.

Give us back some of our fourth amendment rights that have been curtailed in the insane war on drugs.

Provide a new source of income for farmers...possibly replacing some tobacco acreage?

Provide a vast new tax revenue source.

Cut down on street crime, especially amongst inner city gangs.

Make life much safer for law enforcement.

Reduce resentment toward law enforcement due to the Special Ops type attitude police have had to adopt when engaging in drug raids.

Reduce the control of overseas drug cartels, and the terror they impose on their own citizens.

Reduce the workload of our overtaxed military and let them concentrate on fighting and winning the next war instead of babysitting our borders.

Provide more money through the taxes raised for treatment and counseling centers for addicts.

Reduce the spread of AIDS, since clean needles would be more readily available to addicts.

 

[Blackbich]

What PC said!!

 

[Tabby432]

Legalize it. For all of the wonderful reasons above.

 

[Wizard]

<Spinning one> YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[TinaG13]

<Spinning one> YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LMAO! Hey Wizzie, how did I know you'd come in here and say that?

 

[Wizard]

All true........................

 

[Thumper]

Yes legalize it

But as for the good effects...

You mean gynecomastia....excessive use leads to the growth of breast tissue in men. I like boobs....but not on me

Excessive weight gain...the munchies

Impotence...yes it does lead to that eventually

Dead brain cells....some good friends of mine who are avid users consider sitting around reading CD jackets a fun time

Yes if a would have used it I might have gotten laid more but it sorta bugs me that a woman would have to be high or I would have to "buy" her with my stash to get her into bed with me...

That said, I think it should definitely be legalized.

 

[Guest]

Stevie...

You're a hit, babe!

 

[ranajja]

I still can't think about the "war on drugs" and not think about Prohibition...the Untouchables...

And, hey, they eventually legalized alcohol.

I remain hopeful...

 

[The_old_man]

legalisation

I can remember when it WAS legal. All those 'untouchables' were just out of work because they had repealed the Volsted Amendment. So, to keep all those GS12 fatcats on the payroll Anslinger conned congres into criminalising all the other drugs.

There will be no legalizing untill congress wakes up. I don't think i'll live that long.

 

[Renegade]

We're at war with drugs? Looks like it's time for draft dodging again. lol

 

[Mensa]

Man, that's good shit!!

Not to mention it's a hell of a good afrodisiac

Does that mean it gives you sex good enough to curl your hair?