Legal Question

[Scribbleros]

This is what an employment agreement states.

I wonder if that is a legal clause. Hmm. I guess I need to seek a lawyer to find out before I sign it.

Clause attached as an image

 

[YukonErik]

This is what an employment agreement states.

I wonder if that is a legal clause. Hmm. I guess I need to seek a lawyer to find out before I sign it.

Clause attached as an image

psst, it's legal

 

[Dbtk44]

Looks pretty much like a run-of-the-mill employment contract. Depending on what state you live in, some of the conditions may be overridden by state labor laws ( California for example...not sure what the labor laws are like in PA ).

Most of the verbiage is there to prevent misunderstandings or incorrect assumptions about the terms of employment, and it's legal CYA on their part.

 

[Scribbleros]

Thanks FOlks.

 

[PJeremy]

I'm from PA, and an attorney. I don't handle all that much labor law, but I do know that it is a standard at-will employment clause, and most likely completely valid.

 

[Scribbleros]

So what it amounts to is, that they can fire me anytime they wish and not offer a dime for terminating my services.

 

[PJeremy]

That's correct, as with most jobs, you can be fired for good cause, bad cause, or no cause, as long as discrimination is not part of the equation.

It's like that in most US states and most jobs. Trust me, as decent a job as I have, I have the same clause. On the positive side, most companies will offer you some sort of severance because they don't want to be sued (you will generally have to sign a release to get your severance in which you promise not to sue them for any reason whatsoever), so you usually will get a severance package of some sort anyway.

 

[Guest]

I vote this for the kinkiest AmPics thread, ever!

PS - yes, the at-will language in that clause is fairly standard in most states. And as far as severance goes, there's no law requiring a company to pay anything if your employment is terminated...save for accrued, unused vacation time. But, then again, it depends on what the policy is, as set forth in your employee manual.

I've worked at companies that paid generous severance...two weeks, plus a week for every year employed...and I've worked at companies that paid bupkis. If it makes you feel better, though, I've found that terminations that occur as the result of some kind of reorganization or downsizing just about always include a severance package.

Signed,

Director of Human Resources, Lit Division

 

[Scribbleros]

I vote this for the kinkiest AmPics thread, ever!

PS - yes, the at-will language in that clause is fairly standard in most states. And as far as severance goes, there's no law requiring a company to pay anything if your employment is terminated...save for accrued, unused vacation time. But, then again, it depends on what the policy is, as set forth in your employee manual.

I've worked at companies that paid generous severance...two weeks, plus a week for every year employed...and I've worked at companies that paid bupkis. If it makes you feel better, though, I've found that terminations that occur as the result of some kind of reorganization or downsizing just about always include a severance package.

Signed,

Director of Human Resources, Lit Division

Well then wish me luck.

 

[Scribbleros]

Oops didn't realize that I posted in Am Pics Thread. I wished to post in General Discussion Forum.

 

[Guest]

Well then wish me luck.

We'll expect you to report back when you're named Employee of the Year.

 

[Scribbleros]

We'll expect you to report back when you're named Employee of the Year.

I doubt if they have employee of the year.

 

[Guest]

I doubt if they have employee of the year.

OR when you get a big, fat raise. Same difference.

 

[Scribbleros]

OR when you get a big, fat raise. Same difference.

Yes that is always possible. I hope to get a big fat raise. Isn't "Same Difference" antithesis?

 

[Guest]

Yes that is always possible. I hope to get a big fat raise. Isn't "Same Difference" antithesis?

Dude, lighten up...it's an idiom.

 

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[soulfunk]

Sorry to hear it, but you've got absolutely zero job security....

But what the hell does that have to do with amateur pic feedback?

Did you get lost in the forums?

Turn left for the General Board.......

 

[george55]

I would venture to say he had better service here than he would have received in other forum...

 

[Scribbleros]

I would venture to say he had better service here than he would have received in other forum...

Yuppers!. More people seeing this thread. Though I have to admit it was a mistake to post it over here. Also all the replies I got are serious ones. In General Board, this would have been just another joke. Thanks again folks.

 

[dietcherrycoke]

Wow, that pic was hawt!

Clause is legal, as stated by everyone else. Whenever people get all bent of shape because their employer can fire them without cause and notice, I point out that it works both ways: you can quit without cause or notice.

Theoretically you could negotiate an employment contract for a period of time which would bind both you and your employer. If they fired you without just cause, you could sue for damages, but if u quit without just cause (to take a better job, for example, would not be "just" cause), they could sue you for damages and could prevent you from working for a competitor during the duration of the contract, depending on how unique your skill set is. Teachers and entertainers have an employment contract, typically, not so much to protect the employed, but because the hassle for the employer to replace the employee midstream would be so high.

Edited to point out that the company in your case must give you two weeks notice of their intent to fire you, which is somewhat unusual. I supposed they'd have to pay you during that period, although the clause allows them to change your salary without cause or notice. Good rule of thumb: show up on time and don't piss anyone off any you'll probably be ok. Oh yeah, and the boss's daughter is off-limits

 

[jeepman6]

Wow, that pic was hawt!

Clause is legal, as stated by everyone else. Whenever people get all bent of shape because their employer can fire them without cause and notice, I point out that it works both ways: you can quit without cause or notice.

Theoretically you could negotiate an employment contract for a period of time which would bind both you and your employer. If they fired you without just cause, you could sue for damages, but if u quit without just cause (to take a better job, for example, would not be "just" cause), they could sue you for damages and could prevent you from working for a competitor during the duration of the contract, depending on how unique your skill set is. Teachers and entertainers have an employment contract, typically, not so much to protect the employed, but because the hassle for the employer to replace the employee midstream would be so high.

Edited to point out that the company in your case must give you two weeks notice of their intent to fire you, which is somewhat unusual. I supposed they'd have to pay you during that period, although the clause allows them to change your salary without cause or notice. Good rule of thumb: show up on time and don't piss anyone off any you'll probably be ok. Oh yeah, and the boss's daughter is off-limits

Damn I love it when you talk dirty