Leftist leader in South America should watch his back...

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Anyone want to make a guess as to when he will be overthrown by the CIA, and replaced with a brutal US-friendly dictator? (See Allende, Salvador)



http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20030101_1025.html

Brazil Inaugurates 1st Elected Leftist
Brazil Inaugurates Its First Elected Leftist President, Marking Dramatic Leadership Change

The Associated Press


BRASILIA, Brazil Jan. 1 —
Latin America's biggest nation marked a dramatic change in leadership Wednesday with the inauguration of a former shoeshine boy as Brazil's first elected leftist president.

A beaming Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva took the oath of office in Brazil's Congress as tens of thousands of working class Brazilians cheered the elementary school dropout who went on to become a union leader and the head of Brazil's Workers Party.

As Silva traveled to Congress in the back of a convertible Rolls-Royce, a sea people of chanted "Lula! Lula!" and raised red flags bearing the color his party in the air.

Silva, dressed in a dark suit and blue tie, stood in the back of a car, smiling and waving to the crowd. He is popularly known as Lula.

At one point, a horse carrying one of the country's presidential military guards apparently was frightened and fell to the ground in front of the car before being raised by its rider.

The incident only briefly interrupted Silva's trip down Esplanada de Ministerios to Congress.

A short time later, security guards pushed away a man who broke through barriers, rushed to the car and hugged Silva. The incoming president let the man hug him, then continued waving to the crowd.

And just before Silva walked on a red carpet into Congress, several young people broke through police lines at the side of an artificial lake, jumping into the water to be closer to the future president.

Leaders and representatives of 119 countries including Cuban leader Fidel Castro and presidents of six other Latin American nations were attending the inauguration.

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez arrived Wednesday morning in Brasilia, the capital, leaving behind a crippling strike in his country that has virtually paralyzed oil production for the world's fifth largest exporter.

But the most prominent guest was Cuban President Fidel Castro. Castro, 76, looked healthy and in good spirits after recovering from a serious leg infection that kept him out of sight in Cuba for two weeks last month.

As he entered a Brasilia hotel, Castro waved to photographers and said that he was happy Cuba no longer holds the "monopoly of Jan. 1," the day that Cubans celebrate the revolution that brought Castro to power.

Silva counts Castro and Chavez among his friends. On Thursday, Silva plans to have breakfast with Chavez and lunch with Castro.

The United States sent U.S. Trade Representative Robert Zoellick. Zoellick and Sen. Michael Enzi, a Wyoming Republican, met Wednesday morning for an hour with Antonio Palocci, Silva's finance minister.

"It was a listen and learn visit, in which the basic economic problems of Brazil were discussed," Zoellick said in a statement.

Silva, 57, takes over from Fernando Henrique Cardoso in Brazil's first transition between two democratically elected presidents in over 40 years. He will be Brazil's 36th president.

A former radical who used to espouse socialism, Silva has promised to end hunger and economic misery in a country where an estimated 50 million of the 175 million citizens live in poverty.

But he faces huge challenges: inflation has crept into the double digits for the first time in years, and a regional economic crisis that has plunged Brazil's neighbors into financial chaos.

Brazil's currency, the real, lost 35 percent of its value against the dollar last year, reflecting investor concern over whether Silva will keep his pledge of financing the country's large foreign debt burden or whether Brazil will default, as Argentina did a year ago.

People watching the ceremony said Silva is up to the job but will have a tough time keeping his campaign promises.

"I hope he's going to change things, but it's a huge challenge for him," said Fabiane Cristina, a 20-year-old baby sitter who lives in Brasilia.

In a break with tradition, organizers set up huge TV screens in the park and a stage where Brazilian pop groups started playing hours before the inauguration. Hundreds of outdoor stalls sold everything from grilled pork and beer to T-shirts.

Brazilian pop music superstar Gilberto Gil, who will serve as Silva's cultural minister, was one of the first to play.

"Viva Lula!" Gil shouted to thunderous applause from people waving red flags and dressed in the red and white of Silva's party.

After a 14-hour bus ride from the financial capital, Sao Paulo, musician Joao Carlos Souza stretched his legs and changed into a bright red T-shirt reading "100 percent Lula."

Souza said he'd never been to a Brazilian inauguration before because the previous events "were for people in suits drinking champagne."

"This time, it's going to be fun to participate in history," he said.
 
As Lulu traveled to Congress in the back of a convertible Rolls-Royce, a sea of people chanted "Lulu! Lulu!"


Amazing, I remember when her da ran the butchers shop round the corner. Just goes to show eh?
 
LukkyKnight said:
Doesn't EVERY leader on any continent have to watch his or her back?

Well, yeah, I guess, however I was referring to the sentence before the story.
 
Fortunately, I think Bush is too concerned about dropping bombs on Iraq (as if we ever actually stopped bombing Iraq) to be concerned about socialism in Brazil. Has Bush ever visited any of South America? Maybe I can be appointed to his cabinet as Chief of Geography Instruction. And while I'm at it maybe I can convince Bush to actually visit Iraq and try out this new-fangled thing called diplomacy.

Bush could stand to learn plenty from a man who was in office while Bush was busy getting himself a drunk driving conviction: Jimmy Carter.
 
I think if we were going to pay attention to South America, we'd be worrying about Argentina where malnutrition is settling into many areas (we are sending aid to prevent malnutrition).

We might also worry about the political situation in Venezuela where the leftist President Hugo Chavez is the object of a major strike which is causing widespread turmoil (and increasing the price of oil).

The only major problems in Brazil are the exploding population, AIDS, and the raw sewage floating off Ipanema.
 
LukkyKnight said:
Doesn't EVERY leader on any continent have to watch his or her back?
especially South America. That was my thought when I saw the title of this thread.
 
The blood-stained hidden hand

The last time a leftist was elected President in Brazil, the U.S. government had him overthrown and replaced by a series of brutal military dictators. The current turmoil in Venezuela is being engineered by the CIA, which already made one coup attempt in April of last year. Then, Chavez was briefly deposed, only to be returned to power two days later by an uprising of the poor.
 
Re: The blood-stained hidden hand

REDWAVE said:
The last time a leftist was elected President in Brazil, the U.S. government had him overthrown and replaced by a series of brutal military dictators. The current turmoil in Venezuela is being engineered by the CIA, which already made one coup attempt in April of last year. Then, Chavez was briefly deposed, only to be returned to power two days later by an uprising of the poor.

No blood stains.
 
LovetoGiveRoses said:
...We might also worry about the political situation in Venezuela where the leftist President Hugo Chavez is the object of a major strike which is causing widespread turmoil (and increasing the price of oil)...
...not to mention they are running out of beer.

Really.
 
LukkyKnight said:
...not to mention they are running out of beer.

Really.

LOL. They're probably running out of lots of things. I have several friends there. One ran a very profitable business that's been destroyed since Chavez started "managing" the economy. There are several ex-pats around here that talk with a great deal of sadness of what has happened to Venezuela. It's too bad really.

I often wonder about what's been happening with dear sweet Mercedes. She's a sweetie.
 
Schleicher said:
Fortunately, I think Bush is too concerned about dropping bombs on Iraq (as if we ever actually stopped bombing Iraq) to be concerned about socialism in Brazil. Has Bush ever visited any of South America? Maybe I can be appointed to his cabinet as Chief of Geography Instruction. And while I'm at it maybe I can convince Bush to actually visit Iraq and try out this new-fangled thing called diplomacy.

Bush could stand to learn plenty from a man who was in office while Bush was busy getting himself a drunk driving conviction: Jimmy Carter.

We should only be worried about Socialism in Brazil when the World Bank starts asking for billions from U.S. taxpayers to bail out the country. Brazil is headed straight down the shitter, but don't worry, because Castro and the Brazilian equivalent of Michael Jackson think everything will be cool.
As for Bush learning from Carter, maybe the lessons would be how to maintain high inflation and letting some third-rate country hold American Embassy workers hostage for over a year.
Jimmy Carter was, and is, an asswipe.
 
Ham Murabi said:

As for Bush learning from Carter, maybe the lessons would be how to maintain high inflation and letting some third-rate country hold American Embassy workers hostage for over a year.
Jimmy Carter was, and is, an asswipe.

Bet he could build a bathroom better than Dubya.
 
Re: The blood-stained hidden hand

REDWAVE said:
The last time a leftist was elected President in Brazil, the U.S. government had him overthrown and replaced by a series of brutal military dictators. The current turmoil in Venezuela is being engineered by the CIA, which already made one coup attempt in April of last year. Then, Chavez was briefly deposed, only to be returned to power two days later by an uprising of the poor.

HI Redwave . . . the CIA wouldn't interfere in the internal politics of a South American country, would they? Surely the confession by a CIA operative that he had ordered the executon of Che Gauvera in Peru was just propaganda? The liberty loving U$ wouldn't support horrible autocratic dictators like the Greek and Argentina generals, would they?? Oh dear . . . but what about the vision of the U$ as the "home of democracy" ?? :)
 
crappie master said:
Bet he could build a bathroom better than Dubya.

And the Norwegians were terribly impressed with Jimmy Carter's work . . . something about the Nobel Peace Prize in 2002?? Didn't that Dubyah Shrub nomination from Afghanistan, you know the Yankee puppet pushed into power after the invasion, get ignored by the selection committee?? :)
 
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Just what they need. A leader with less education than Jethro Bodine.
 
Re: The blood-stained hidden hand

REDWAVE said:
The last time a leftist was elected President in Brazil, the U.S. government had him overthrown and replaced by a series of brutal military dictators. The current turmoil in Venezuela is being engineered by the CIA, which already made one coup attempt in April of last year. Then, Chavez was briefly deposed, only to be returned to power two days later by an uprising of the poor.
So all those Venezuelans engaged in peaceful protest are just CIA operatives? Right.

Give this one up, REDWAVE. Your movement has lost Venezuela.

TB4p
 
Don K Dyck said:
And the Norwegians were terribly impressed with Jimmy Carter's work . . . something about the Nobel Peace Prize in 2002?? Didn't that Dubyah Shrub nomination from Afghanistan, you know the Yankee puppet pushed into power after the invasion, get ignored by the selection committee?? :)

Then they said they were giving him the Nobel Peace prize because he critisized President Bush. LOL. What a crock of shit. How did these fools get control of Mr. Nobel's foundation?
 
LovetoGiveRoses said:
Then they said they were giving him the Nobel Peace prize because he critisized President Bush. LOL. What a crock of shit. How did these fools get control of Mr. Nobel's foundation?

Hugo Chavez is a good example of what happens to leftist leaders. They run on a platform of helping the poor. They get in power and become intoxicated by it. They start 'clamping' down on the economy and punishing "the rich" in an effort to help the poor. However, punishing one group of people doesn't necessarily "help" another group and what happens is that the economy starts reeling, production decreases, more people get laid off and all of a sudden, there are many more poor people than there were before. If the country is lucky, food production isn't harmed too badly and they can still feed themselves and malnutrition is avoided. Unfortunately, food production is often affected and the world community has to provide food.

The economy is not a 'zero-sum' game.
 
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