Lasher said a bad word!!!

[FlamingoBlue]

In my thread about "How do you want to be treated" Lasher referred to my secretary as a GIRL. I pointed out to him that my secretary is a mother and grandmother and is also Black. (That's what she tells me to call her. She doesn't like to be called an Afro- American or anything else). Not only is the term GIRL sexist,when applied to a woman, but it is racist when applied to a Black woman.(Although Lasher couldn't have known she was Black).

The "GIRL" crack came at the end of his post, sorta like an afterthought stick in the ribs. Didn't see no smilie faces or anything else.

So, guys, where's the outrage??? Or is it okay if it commes from Lasher??

 

[forgetunome]

It is never appropriate to resort to name calling...as it shows immaturity and usually shows someone is at a loss as to what else to say so they resort to getting personal and hurtful. I have found most times it's best to ignore bad behavior because most times you cannot teach such a person to do any different.

Everyone has a right to their opinions but, they don't have a right to hurt and cause injury.

 

[Savage Kitten]

over exaggerated?

i'm a girl and proud of it

GIRL POWER!

~~~~~~~~~

irks me that some people see the word 'girl' as being racist.. i mean ... come on... she was a girl at one point and time in her life right? or are 'Black' people born an adolescent? (skipping the boy and girl stage?)

 

[Patryn]

Ordinarily, no...but coming from you, Flameingo, I don't see why a sexist reply would bother you so.

[Edited by Patryn on 09-25-2000 at 11:22 AM]

 

[FlamingoBlue]

That's it guys. Circle the wagons!!!!

Predictable responses, so far. Thanks so much.

blue

 

[April]

Flamingo, would you just drop the martyr complex? It's getting really old, and nobody's buying it any more.

You're like a puppy that can't stop chasing the stick. Every time someone wiggles that stick, you just jump and chase it all over the board. Give yourself and the rest of us a break, and knock it off for a while.

 

[Bliss]

Circle the wagons? Uhm, reread ALL the responses.

No, not everyone thinks every single syllable Slasher types is oh so cute. But he was trying his best to condescend to you, that's all. His wit alluded you. Big deal.

I think he should have just sent you to http://www.grammarlady.com, but then I do prefer education over posturing.

The most telling thing is that Patryn mistakenly called you Sparky. Too true, even if it ain't.

Love,

The Future Former Mrs. Lee, Fucking Not

 

[FlamingoBlue]

Still Predictable.

Thank goodness for the old double standard. BTW this isn't about me--- Its about (the pot calling the kettle black) Lasher.

blue

 

[April]

No, Flamingo. It's about you, as always lately. If it was truly about what Lasher said, you would have kept it on the other thread. Instead, here you are, proclaiming loudly to the board, "Oh poor me, I and my secretary (assistant, whatever) have been wronged!" You're an adult, for chrissakes, now act like one, and let it go.

 

[FlamingoBlue]

His wit did not elude me!

I just have never referred to my secretary, or any others, as a girl.

Know what, this is such a waste of time. Lasher, you go ahead and do whaever you please, with impunity. Just don't ever call my office and ask to speak to my GIRL!

As for the rest of you, have a nice day.

blue

 

[Bliss]

Alluded. Not eluded, but apparently both. Sheesh.

 

[KillerMuffin]

Thats it, I'm dumping the O'Douls on your head Blue. You are starting to do the bobtoad thing here babe. Wait, I can't call you babe, its sexist!

Good ever loving gravy. Enough with the sexism. As far as I'm concerned, you're just as entitled to your opinion as anyone on here. Even if it is sexist. Just as long as you remain Equal Opportunity in your business dealings and your woman puts up with you, then who the hell cares?

I mean honestly. So what if Lasher refers to your secretary as Girl. How does that diminish her? Because he's got a bad view of women? His problem. She is obviously a competent, intelligent, hard working individual. Why should she care about his opinion?

All this sexism boils down to is a debate over labels. Everyone has a label, even if you are the least sexist person on the planet, you still label women. You may label them "Women" or "Competent, intelligent, hard working individuals" or "Girl."

Its not in the labelling, its in the perception of being labelled thats the real issue. Sexism is only the problem of those who perceive the sexism. Because, quite frankly people, when "sexism" is acted on, its not sexism anymore, its discrimination or sexual harassment.

Being sexist isn't a crime, and it isn't wrong, because its only an opinion, one of those precious rights we have in this country, ya know? Acting on it, well, thats another matter entirely. If I worked for a person that called me a name that made me feel inferior, girl certainly doesn't while Hey You! gets my goat, I speak to them in respectful terms and ask that they cease, because it offends me.

Bringing up all this sexist rhetoric seems to me that its a bunch of hooey designed to make Blue, and now Lasher, change themselves in some way, their opinion namely. They can accuse you of being just as sexist. It works both ways you know. Its not just the evil man who does it, but the evil woman too.

So, flame me away feminists and sexists. You aren't a true feminist until you've registered for the selective service. You're good enough to do anything a man can do, but not good enough get drafted. Isn't that insulting? Down with the glass ceiling! Let them draft us too!!! Ooops, we didn't want to have to be totally equal with the guys did we?

Oh yeah, flamers and admirers, yeah, I've been discriminated against for my sex before. My race too. Oh yeah, I lost my job solely because of my disability. Been there, done that, got the t shirt.

I appreciate the true feminists, the ones who are for the strength of woman, the power of woman, but not the total superiority of woman and abject submission on the part of men. The wars they fought, the battles the endured to be seen as equal and just as human are something we should never forget. Nor should we stop fighting the discrimination, ANYONE's discrimination.

Sigh, I shouldn't post this, but I'm bored and in the mood to get yelled at. Sorry if I offended you, but hypocrasy just burns my apples. Particularly my own.

 

[FlamingoBlue]

You can call me babe, anytime....

I sorta like it. And as far as Lasher calling my secreatry a girl, I, personally, wouldn't have pointed it out except that he lambasted me for being sexist and I saw this as a chance to show how it could happen to any of us, even the best intentioned. I'm so glad to see that you are so forgiving to him. ( Poor Lasher, I hope ole blue didn't hurt you. Like he even cares what anyone says about him)!

Well, ole blue has a thick hide so pound away, if that's what you need to do. As for me, see y'all later.

blue

 

[Samuari]

I appreciate the true feminists, the ones who are for the strength of woman, the power of woman, but not the total superiority of woman and abject submission on the part of men. The wars they fought, the battles the endured to be seen as equal and just as human are something we should never forget. Nor should we stop fighting the discrimination, ANYONE's discrimination.

Sigh, I shouldn't post this, but I'm bored and in the mood to get yelled at. Sorry if I offended you, but hypocrasy just burns my apples. Particularly my own.

My Mom is an example of on those true feminists. When they maried my Dad couldn't boil water, much less wash dishes, beat a rug, dust, or do laundry. She was determined that her sons were not going to be handicaped, so we learned. And my sisters could oppewrate alawnmower and hedge clippers/ and they didn't get thier driver licenece till they could change the oil and tires. There were no guy jobs or gal jobs, just work that had to be done for the household to run well.

Keep in mind that I was born in 1952,BEFORE Ward and June, Or even Ozzie and Harriott.


[Edited by Samuari on 09-25-2000 at 01:00 PM]

 

[CreamyLady]

Ahem.

Killer Muffin, I would not register for the Selective Service because I feel it is wrong. I feel it is wrong for everyone, and if I had a son, would encourage him NOT to do so.

I would not serve in the military for the same reasons.

Others have differing points of view, I know.

However, this does not make me less of a feminist.

 

[KillerMuffin]

Killer Muffin, I would not register for the Selective Service because I feel it is wrong. I feel it is wrong for everyone, and if I had a son, would encourage him NOT to do so.

I would not serve in the military for the same reasons.

Others have differing points of view, I know.

However, this does not make me less of a feminist.

Ahem, well, huhmmm, this is an entirely different issue entirely, based solely on your ideals of military service, nothing to do with feminism. I can't possibly see how it would make you less of a feminist to have your view.

 

[Magic Merlin]

Blue, don't you have anything better to do with your time other than being a martyr and very petty. As I see it this is only about you and not anything or anyone else. Hell, my 70 year young mother still refers to her children as the girls and the boys. My sisters, all four of them in their 40s and early 50s refer to their siblings as the boys and girls. Who the hell cares?

Give up on it Blue. This whole martyr complex is getting very old, if not predictable.....

MM

 

[Bliss]

*blink*

Here, have another Beer, you Bare Brair Beer Burping Bear, you.

YEA! for me, I remembered them all!

_________________________________
Celebrate the lil victories!

 

[Laurel]

FB - to try to clarify the situation a little, I went back and read that thread and I believe that Lasher was being facetious. I could be wrong, but that's how I read it.

 

[Stormystarr]

Haven't you heard that song by No Doubt, called 'I'm just a girl'? It helps us get out of doing a lot of stuff. The song is meant to be sarcastic by the way.

 

[Nicole]

Is it just me???

You know I have to say that I would rather be called "girl", to me a woman is someone you look up to, I don't think anyone would look up to me.

Also I have this inner child in me that is screaming to get out, I guess I never grew up. So Girl/Woman does it really matter??? Every WOMAN was once a little girl ... was she not?

Please don't think me racist here but, and I wouldn't know living so far away, what exactly is a young female black child called then? If not a girl then what?

 

[teresafannin]

I guess I must be sexist & racist as well. I have a group of women that get together once a month. We have women who are black & women who are white & we all call each other girl. I don't think any of us feel demeaned by that word. We even call ourselves the "Barbie Girls" because we are all doll collectors, doll artists & customisers. That is my confession of the week, I collect Barbie dolls & have way too many for one supposedly grown woman. I actually like being called a dame or a broad, because I love those old movies from the 30' & 40's. Am I weird or what?

 

[Mustang Sally]

I can't get past trying to figure out why GIRL is a bad word. Or sexist. Or racist. In the context of Lasher's post, I understand he's using it to refer to an inferior or a servant, but he could have just as easily asked if you had a boy. It certainly wasn't a personal attack on your assistant.

Blue, you're overreacting. As usual.

 

[Siren]

Come on Blue.....

 

[Ezzy]

lmao Flamingoblue

Et tu Lasher

EZ http://smilecwm.tripod.com/net3/couto.gif